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The story of Revelation boils down to the story of two covenants and two "women" who were "married" to God through these respective covenant relationships. The "woman" of Revelation 12 who brings forth Christ is Israel, but she rejects Him and becomes the "great harlot" of Revelation 17. The...

Our pastor at church this morning made a passing comment about Revelation and how he's a pre-tribber. He claimed two things that I couldn't have agreed with more: Revelation is about judgment and the church wouldn't go through it. Jerusalem was, indeed, judged and the church at Jerusalem...

How is it that you can so blatantly call me "blind" for assuming Jesus was speaking to real, physical people standing right in front of Him when the very passage from which Matthew 16:27-28 is drawn starts with the words, "THEN JESUS SAID TO HIS DISCIPLES!" . You ascribe malice to people where...

Posted this in another forum, but probably needs to be here. Re: looking at the bible from a hebrew mindset See if you can see the thread of prophecy and fulfillment that runs through these passages. So I will choose...

And that has exactly what to do with your ridiculous assertion that Jesus wasn't speaking to physical people standing right in front of Him??? You wrote: When proven how utterly, embarrassingly silly that was, from the Bible itself, no less (imagine that!) you come back with this...

Oh, puh-leeeeeze! Look at the verse just three up from Matthew 16:27: Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. Matthew 16:24 (NASB) He wasn't talking to you! What ends will some people go to to ignore...

If futurism is true, Christ didn't keep His promise to the apostles. If He didn't keep that one, how many others has He failed to keep? Beliefs have consequences.

Here's a promise made to the disciples while Christ still lived on the earth: "For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS. "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will...

Look through the Bible: every "day of the Lord" is a "day" of judgment and wrath. The day of the Lord that came upon Jerusalem in 70 AD is no different. And everything from Revelation 1 to Revelation 22 is covered by these words: And he said to me, "These words are faithful and true"; and...

Which of the verses I cited do you allege to be "sheer nonsense"? :confused

This is patently untrue, as you were shown just one (of many) examples of fulfillment here in your closed thread. Let's revisit it, shall we???

As a new guy here (and that's not a put down, just an observation of fact) you might want to read up more on Jason's writings before accusing him of "missing the point." He has about 29,000 posts, so there's plenty of homework you could do before presuming to know what his focus is. Just sayin'.

See if you can see the thread of prophecy and fulfillment that runs through these passages. So I will choose their punishments And will bring on them what they dread. Because I called, but no one answered; I spoke, but they did not listen. And they did evil in My sight And chose that in which I...

Why would you think that when He's the one who sent the Romans to judge Jerusalem and destroy it? And they *sang a new song, saying, "Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people...

Jason is preaching the gospel Paul and the other apostles taught and yet you call his words "willful ignorance"??? That, IMHO, is how futurism has distorted and is destroying the preaching of the gospel. And that is why the church is losing ground to evil. Beliefs have consequences. Futurist...

Jesus said we would know a tree by its fruit. He did not say we would know it by its root. It doesn't matter what's ultimately behind it: what kind of fruit is it producing in the world? If the fruit is bad, the root is bad. And the fruit of Islam - as I see it - is very, very bad.

There have been few postings on this thread from anybody but you, 'Tide. That, I believe, is because of the disrespectful manner in which you expressed yourself to others in your other, closed thread. My advice to you is that if you want to engage in discussion - rather than just posting in...

Before Mohammed came along, there were three "religions" in Arabia: Judaism, Christianity, and the polytheism practiced by each of the many Arab tribes throughout the region. Mohammed comes along (I'm paraphrasing the history here) and decides to unite the Arabs but cannot do that as long as...

LOL! Ok. Whatever.

I have no idea whether you're agreeing or disagreeing with what I wrote. Care to clarify your point? Because I can literally break every symbolic word in Revelation 17 down and show you its OT analog to demonstrate that John is, in fact, describing Jerusalem and its priesthood here as "mystery...