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So, what's you're saying is "guns don't kill people, false doctrines do"?

Yes, and of course nothing they asked Him privately, on the Mount of Olives, had anything to do with what He told them leaving the Temple. That's what some would have us believe but we know that's just nonsense, don't we? :D

:biglol:biglol:biglol Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him. And He said to them, "Do you not see all these things [You know, these temple buildings, including the temple itself we just left]? Truly I say to...

Go back and reread that post until it you understand it. And for those really interested in discussion rather than hysterical hand-waving, the Old Covenant established the children of Israel as God's holy ("set apart") people and put them in the land he promised Abraham. This land - with its...

The Old Covenant is the Law!!! Or are you planning to rewrite almost 4,000 years of Jewish history, too?

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Matthew 5:18 (NASB) Did heaven and earth pass away at the cross, too, or do you simply ignore what Christ had to say about it?

It could all be true and yet utterly irrelevant. God doesn't live in temples built by human hands.

So you can't answer the questions I directed to you or won't?

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The New Covenant was established at the cross. The Old Covenant - obsoleted by the New - remained in effect until Jerusalem and its Temple were destroyed. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Matthew 5:18 (NASB) Not everything was accomplished at the cross. That which remained was the "vengeance for the covenant" God had told Moses the...

We actually disagree but as I am typing this on my phone, I will have to lay out our differences later.

The Law (of Moses) is the Old Covenant!!!

Your fundamental inability to comprehend something so simple should give anyone reading what you write serious pause. Seriously, is there anything Jesus said that you actually believe??? What part of "the law will not pass away until heaven and earth pass away" is not perfectly clear???

Which has nothing to do with what I wrote or cited. Did God judge Israel and Judah using Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon to do it? Yes or no? Is Jesus Christ God incarnate ("in the flesh?") Yes or no? Is God the same yesterday, today, and forever? Yes or no? Answer these and I'll show you...

So the LORD gave Israel all the land which He had sworn to give to their fathers, and they possessed it and lived in it. And the LORD gave them rest on every side, according to all that He had sworn to their fathers, and no one of all their enemies stood before them; the LORD gave all their...

He did indeed come, and they did not recognize Him.

Yeah. I guess he missed that part about "is ready to vanish away" as being future tense to the author of Hebrews. But again, why is the Old Covenant (Law) "passed away" at the cross to these people when they also say heaven and earth haven't been destroyed yet? Were heaven and earth destroyed...

He didn't have to. It's implied in the text and the repeated use of the word "they" in reference to the "soldiers of the governor" and the "whole Roman cohort."