Will We Go To Heaven As Soon As We Die?

[Butch5]

1 Corinthians 15:40 HCSB

There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is different from that of the earthly ones.

Yet another talking about our heavenly bodies compared to our earthly bodies. What's the use of us having a heavenly body if we never go to heaven?

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Hi icee,

Here again it's an inference. I presented clear statements that the righteous would inherit the land forever.

Let's look at this passage you've present. What is a heavenly body? The word heavenly is an adjective, it modifies the word body. If describes something about that body. It doesn't tell us where that body will be, it doesn’t tell us when we will get that body, etc. It simply give us some description of that body. We use heavenly as adjective in modern English. If someone said this ice cream is heavenly you certainly wouldn't think the ice cream was in heaven or was going to be in heaven, it's simply giving a description of the ice cream. Likewise, heavenly bodies are bodies with heavenly qualities

 

[Butch5]

This is a good example of knowing the difference between the Israel of God... an earthly entity with many earthly ordinances, as compared to the church of God.. a heavenly entity with our citizenship being in heaven.

How so?

 

[icee]

How so?

Because it plainly states heavenly...as in location...and earthly. We know that because he could have simply said spiritual body as he later says if he wasn't referring to location.

 

[smaller]

Because it plainly states heavenly...as in location...and earthly. We know that because he could have simply said spiritual body as he later says if he wasn't referring to location.

The location of the kingdom of God has already been located.

Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The 'land' we have been promised is an incorruptible body wherein we are with God, therein as ONE and with no foreign occupation forces.

s

 

[icee]

The location of the kingdom of God has already been located.

Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The 'land' we have been promised is an incorruptible body wherein we are with God, therein as ONE and with no foreign occupation forces.

s

I'm speaking of heaven..that's the location we are all talking about.

 

[Eventide]

I'm speaking of heaven..that's the location we are all talking about.

We know that no man has ascended into heaven but the Son of man who came down from heaven.. and yet the church of God is seated with Christ in heavenly places..

This is because we are DEAD and our life is hid IN CHRIST with God.. and when He appears, we shall appear with Him.. when He comes.. for the dead in Christ shall rise first, and then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the LORD in the air.. and we shall for ever be with the LORD..

Comfort one another with these words... says the Apostle to the Gentiles.. as he has written to the church of God.

 

[smaller]

I'm speaking of heaven..that's the location we are all talking about.

There are MULTIPLE heavens. Which one might you be speaking of?

Deuteronomy 10:14
Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD's thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.

God Reigns in 'all' Heavens, even 'far above' same.

2 Corinthians 12:2
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.

 

[icee]

For those that are having a hard time following the conversation I am talking about the heaven where God is enthroned.

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[Stormcrow]

15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.(Gen 13:15 KJV)

So the LORD gave Israel all the land which He had sworn to give to their fathers, and they possessed it and lived in it. And the LORD gave them rest on every side, according to all that He had sworn to their fathers, and no one of all their enemies stood before them; the LORD gave all their enemies into their hand. Not one of the good promises which the LORD had made to the house of Israel failed; all came to pass. Joshua 21:43-45 (NASB)

Fulfilled.

 

[John 8:32]

So the LORD gave Israel all the land which He had sworn to give to their fathers, and they possessed it and lived in it. And the LORD gave them rest on every side, according to all that He had sworn to their fathers, and no one of all their enemies stood before them; the LORD gave all their enemies into their hand. Not one of the good promises which the LORD had made to the house of Israel failed; all came to pass. Joshua 21:43-45 (NASB)

Fulfilled.

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

 

[Kaliani]

There are famous people like Dannion Brinkley and Anita Moorjani who have gone through near death experiences. They don't sound anything but sincere, in my humble opinion. I don't see them as deceptive in any way. Yet the experiences they describe in detail sure don't sound like anything that is described in the Bible.

 

[farouk]

There are famous people like Dannion Brinkley and Anita Moorjani who have gone through near death experiences. They don't sound anything but sincere, in my humble opinion. I don't see them as deceptive in any way. Yet the experiences they describe in detail sure don't sound like anything that is described in the Bible.

Kaliani:

Kind of, Who do you believe, right? Best to stick to Scripture, right?

(PS: I have odd dreams and at the time I kind of feel sincere about a lot of off-the-wall stuff, but afterwards.... )

 

[Butch5]

Because it plainly states heavenly...as in location...and earthly. We know that because he could have simply said spiritual body as he later says if he wasn't referring to location.

Hi icee,

The grammar is the grammar, heavenly and earhtly are adjectives. They describe the qualities of the bodies.

ad·jec·tive

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noun 1. Grammar . any member of a class of words that modify nouns and pronouns, primarily by describing a particular quality of the word they are modifying, as wise in a wise grandmother, or perfect in a perfect score, or handsome in He is extremely handsome. Other terms, as numbers ( one cup; twelve months ), certain demonstrative pronouns ( this magazine; those questions ), and terms that impose limits ( each person; no mercy ) can also function adjectivally, as can some nouns that are found chiefly in fixed phrases where they immediately precede the noun they modify, as bottle in bottle cap and bus in bus station. Synonyms: modifier, qualifier, identifier, describer, describing word.


They simply modify the word body. They give some qualities of the bodies.

 

[Butch5]

So the LORD gave Israel all the land which He had sworn to give to their fathers, and they possessed it and lived in it. And the LORD gave them rest on every side, according to all that He had sworn to their fathers, and no one of all their enemies stood before them; the LORD gave all their enemies into their hand. Not one of the good promises which the LORD had made to the house of Israel failed; all came to pass. Joshua 21:43-45 (NASB)

Fulfilled.

The promises to the house of Israel yes, however I was speaking of the promises made to Abraham. If you noticed in the verse I qouted God said to Abraham, to "Thee" will I give it. Abraham never got that land, neither did Isaac or Jacob, it was promised to them also. Stephen states this in Acts.

2 And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,
3 And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and come into the land which I shall shew thee.
4 Then came he out of the land of the Chaldaeans, and dwelt in Charran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, wherein ye now dwell.​

5 And he gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on: yet he promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when as yet he had no child. (Act 7:2-5 KJV)

And Paul,

8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised.
12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.​

13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. (Heb 11:8-13 KJV)