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  1. Hugo

    The Emptiness of Atheism

    In a time where logical fallacies are hip, it seems to be such a common occurrence on forums nowadays to confuse evidence with conclusions. The genetic fallacy applies in two scenarios: 1) you are concluding that a claim is false based on its origin (even if the origin is relevant to its truth...
  2. Hugo

    The Emptiness of Atheism

    It's a common misunderstanding of the genetic fallacy to think that it applies to all claims. For some claims, the origin of the claim does affect the merit of the claim. In those cases, it is valid to use the origin as evidence for or against that claim. http://www.fallacyfiles.org/genefall.html
  3. Hugo

    Superbowl! Who will win?

    At the beginning of the season, Sports Illustrated asked a psychic who would win the Super Bowl. The psychic picked the New York Jets.
  4. Hugo

    World of Warcraft

    I tried it, but I think the game is boring. It's just standard Wizards/Warriors rigamarole. I would never pay monthly fees for a game either.
  5. Hugo

    The Emptiness of Atheism

    Orion was questioning a statement made by azlan88.
  6. Hugo

    [_ Old Earth _] Does Atheism Make People Smarter?

    Apparently there's been some (not a lot) research and polls that may indicate that education has a negative effect on religious belief. As it's been mentioned, it's hard to establish the exact cause. Also, it doesn't really apply to atheism, it just seems that education coincides...
  7. Hugo

    The flood.

    If there is plenty of evidence, why do you think that the scientists around the world (from different backgrounds, a lot of them Christian) have not found this evidence? I suppose it's possible that thousands of experts are blinded by some preconception, but I find it very unlikely. I want to...
  8. Hugo

    The flood.

    I don't believe in a global flood literally because I accept the scientific consensus that the evidence is absent. As for the details of the story, it's basic mythology/folklore from a literary standpoint, so it's even more difficult to take literally. People mock it because it is so hard to...
  9. Hugo

    What is the purpose of hell?

    The orthodox protestant view is that it is punishment for sin, and that it is the punishment that we all deserve as sinners. Many Christians think that there may be varying degrees of punishment depending on sins committed. A substantial number of believers are Annihilationists and believe...
  10. Hugo

    Show me the proof??

    First you say that your position on God is immutable regardless of the evidence, and now you won't believe that I was a sincere Christian no matter what I say? I'm concerned that you are closing yourself off to protect your beliefs. Sure, it's possible that I have backslidden and will one day...
  11. Hugo

    The Emptiness of Atheism

    I do think a natural explanation ("chaos" is not quite right) is simpler than a designer with the knowledge that we have gained. A designer may seem to you to be the simplest explanation on the surface. A lot of scientific findings are indeed counter-intuitive. Problem is, science explains...
  12. Hugo

    The Emptiness of Atheism

    You're just trying to obfuscate. We both know that God ordered genocide. The issue is whether you justify it or not. I have heard many Christians try to explain it away and justify it already. If you have a new explanation, then contribute it.
  13. Hugo

    The Emptiness of Atheism

    Too bad you don't think I contribute to the discussion, azlan88. What would you like? Jehovah ordered the Israelites to commit genocide. Is that clear enough?
  14. Hugo

    The Emptiness of Atheism

    You haven't given any evidence that I should consider Genesis inspired in the first place. What about other creation myths? You can do any dance you want to do to make Genesis jive with science. There's a dozen of them out there. Jehovah ordered the Jews to kill people (to put it nicely!)...
  15. Hugo

    Show me the proof??

    "Burden of proof" is a concept of the legal system. It is a good general rule for arguments. I don't mean that you have a burden to prove God to me. Only you would know that. But if you are making the claim of a deity, then it must be backed up with evidence for it to be of any value to...
  16. Hugo

    Show me the proof??

    There is incredibly strong evidence against all religions, and each one of them has no evidence whatsoever. There is also evidence that their deities do not exist. For each religion, it depends on how they define their deity as to how you can approach it and assess whether it's true. Once you...
  17. Hugo

    The Emptiness of Atheism

    azlan88, I haven't found any evidence to suspect that the first part of Genesis is any more than what it is, mostly myth and folklore. Even if you could demonstrate that the bible is the best religious text of all, that's still far from demonstrating divine inspiration and veracity. I thought...
  18. Hugo

    The Emptiness of Atheism

    azlan, I do see your point. I do know what's in the bible and I understand it, but I did not use the best wording in my previous post. I actually thought about changing it, but figured that people would know what I meant. I do, however, disagree with most of what you've said regarding the...
  19. Hugo

    The Emptiness of Atheism

    First of all, lack of evidence is evidence against a theistic god. Theism makes claims of which there is no evidence. The plurality of gods. The fact that there are competing gods is evidence, which is why it is cited so often by skeptics. Do you believe in a Hindu god? The fact that...
  20. Hugo

    Show me the proof??

    What kind of god are we talking about? For theism, we need evidence of a personal deity that is concerned with human affairs. It's not too hard to imagine what that would be like. For deism we don't need much evidence at all, but that's just inserting an explanation into a knowledge gap. If...
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