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  1. J

    Can you reject Biblical Literalism and still be a true Christian?

    I know you said more. I'm just joking around. I did read your whole post, and I appreciate it. There have been a lot of good posts on this thread, and I do appreciate all of them. I'm actually meeting with one of the pastors from my church later this week. It'll be the first time I've...
  2. J

    Can you reject Biblical Literalism and still be a true Christian?

    And Jesus also told many parables. What if his reference to Noah was a reference to a parable about the flood rather than a literal person?
  3. J

    Can you reject Biblical Literalism and still be a true Christian?

    Mike, why are you always suspicious of my posts? I mean no harm, and everything I've typed here is honest. :)
  4. J

    Can you reject Biblical Literalism and still be a true Christian?

    Yes, this statement is exactly what was tripping me up and causing me to move away from faith altogether. And it's what I'm trying to reconcile within myself. I have a hard time believing that every story of the Old Testament is true because there seems to be a complete lack of evidence...
  5. J

    Can you reject Biblical Literalism and still be a true Christian?

    Thanks for the replies. Good food for thought...
  6. J

    Can you reject Biblical Literalism and still be a true Christian?

    As I've mentioned in some of my earlier posts, I have been going through a long phase in which I've been plagued with some serious doubts. So serious, in fact, that I've been on the verge of calling myself an atheist. However, I was a hard-core believer for almost 20 years, and I know that...
  7. J

    Can God be in the presence of sin?

    Here's another thing I was "just wondering" about... I've often heard the reason non-Christians can't get into heaven is because God can't allow sin into heaven. I suppose the thought is that God is so holy and pure that He can't be in the presence of sin. Is that a proper understanding...
  8. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    WIP, Thank you for your last post. I may not agree with everything you said, but I sense you said it with sincere and kind intentions, and I do appreciate that. I used to believe as devoutly as you. I wonder sometimes if I have become hard hearted, or if I have merely opened my eyes to see...
  9. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    Ok, if God exists and Christianity is true, then yes, man's conscience could be the inward expression of the Holy Spirit or something like that. But I'm asking is it really impossible for man to have a conscience if there was no God? Like not possible in any way whatsoever? Assume you have...
  10. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    This statement could just as easily be re-phrased as, "Do you know the types of things that have been socially acceptable in cultures that did know God?" What percentage of the German population in the 30's and 40's were Christian, yet it seems the vast majority either approved of the...
  11. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    I don't think you're being difficult. I actually enjoy this type of discussion! Anyway, I suppose I wouldn't argue that the golden rule must be followed. Merely that it should be followed. Why should it be followed (I'll go ahead and anticipate your question)? Well, why shouldn't it be? Why...
  12. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    You keep saying that, but what exactly do you mean by that? Did Hitler show love to the Jews? Al Quaeda show love to Americans? Inquisitors show love to "heretics"? The Israelites show love to the Canaanites? I agree that most people exhibit love in their lives, but certainly not all. I'm...
  13. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    I'm certainly no expert on evolution or biology, but it seems like many different animal species are social (chimpanzees, wolves, etc.). For whatever reason, this social adaptation has allowed these species to survive better than if they were isolated. Other animal species may live solitary...
  14. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    It is wrong to harm others because we have the capacity to consider the consequences of our actions and how they impact others. Nearly every religion and/or society has some version of the "golden rule". This idea pre-dates Christianity and Judaism by several hundred years (for example, it is...
  15. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    Thank you, Deavonreye. That's the point I was trying to make in my earlier posts. I agree that human beings' code of morality would be essentially the same if humanity had never formed a belief in God or gods, except you could perhaps argue that the history of mankind would have been more...
  16. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    Yes, I will concede the point that the "appeal to majority" does not make something objectively right or wrong. Obviously, the majority could be wrong. Perhaps I'm being a little loose with my definition of the word "objective". The dictionary defines "objective" as "not influenced by personal...
  17. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    Ivdavid, sorry to ignore your previous question. I got sidetracked. To answer your questions, yes, a person can have doubts of something he was once fully convinced of. It happened to me (and to many other people if you go read some other forums on the internet). It's not something I'm happy...
  18. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    For about 20 years I was a hard core, fully convinced believer, just like most of you on this forum. For the past couple years, however, I have had nagging doubts which have grown into severe doubts. Part of the reason I am so frustrated by Christian apologists is I have read or listened to so...
  19. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    Mike, I do not mean to be offensive. I don't even really have an end goal or ulterior motive for posting something like this. I just honestly enjoy the discussion, and I truly enjoy and appreciate hearing all the different perspectives, whether I agree with them or not. Again, I apologize if...
  20. J

    Evidence For God (I'd love to hear feedback)

    In my original post I listed a few of these "objective moral standards." My original post said, "under normal circumstances almost everyone would agree that it is objectively morally wrong to commit genocide, infanticide, beat slaves, stone people to death for gathering sticks on a Sunday, kill...
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