“No one is good but God alone.â€

[elijah23]

And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.†Mark 10:18 RSV

I suppose if Jesus was humble, then I should be humble.

 

[elijah23]

I think it would be wise of us to follow Christ’s example and not call ourselves good.

 

[craigmn3]

Our own righteousness is as filthy rags

If there is anything good, holy or righteous in us, it is there because of God.

I want to be a gauze that you do not see, instead I want you to see God...in me


BTW Jesus was not being humble, but rather affirming that He is God.....and tested them to see if they would back down

 

[Eventide]

Isn't it sad that two of the largest professing Christian entities on earth reject this simple biblical truth.. and at the same time believe that they're the one true church.. ?

 

[Vic C.]

And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.†Mark 10:18 RSV

I suppose if Jesus was humble, then I should be humble.

When reading this verse in context, there is a different way of understanding it's meaning. :yes

 

[elijah23]

When reading this verse in context, there is a different way of understanding it's meaning. :yes

Would you expound?

 

[WardSmall]

This comes as part of Activision's effort to narrow its focus and set most of its empire to work on its core franchises: Call of Duty, World of Warcraft, and StarCraft.Isn't it sad that two of the largest professing Christian entities on earth reject this simple biblical truth.. and at the same time believe that they're the one true church.

 

[Eventide]

This comes as part of Activision's effort to narrow its focus and set most of its empire to work on its core franchises: Call of Duty, World of Warcraft, and StarCraft.Isn't it sad that two of the largest professing Christian entities on earth reject this simple biblical truth.. and at the same time believe that they're the one true church.

What are you talking about ? Why are you quoting me with this comment that has no bearing on truth or reality.. ?

 

[Vic C.]

What are you talking about ? Why are you quoting me with this comment that has no bearing on truth or reality.. ?

Heh, I didn't quite get that post either.

E23, the first thing that comes to mind is, Jesus is pointing to the fact that all that is good comes from God and not man. So you sort of correct when you say we should be humble because Jesus was humble. But, His humility comes not from God, but because He is God.

The actual point I wanted to make was made already by craigmn3:

BTW Jesus was not being humble, but rather affirming that He is God.....and tested them to see if they would back down.

Non trinitarians will use this verse to suggest Jesus is not God, but I honestly believe the opposite is true. Acknowledging that Jesus is good affirms His deity. Nowhere in the context does Jesus reject the attribute of "good".

You can read commentaries on this passage here:

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[WIP]

I agree. I don't think Jesus was rebuking anyone but affirming his position and recognizing that the one asking recognized him as God.

 

[reba]

Amen vic and wip

 

[zionwarrior]

It is frustrating at times because most indoctrinated trinitarians seem to be so absorbed in their extra-Biblical terminology and concepts, which they see almost everywhere in scriptures. In actuality the philosophy has been placed over the scripture so that the scripture is being filtered by the philosophy, thus blinding the indoctrinated trinitarian to what the scripture is actually saying. Many scriptures were corrupted by copyists. Add to this the fact that most of our translations are the product of trinitarian scholars who wished to see the scriptures translated in such a way so as to make them appear to support the added trintarian dogma.

 

[Drew]

It is frustrating at times because most indoctrinated trinitarians seem to be so absorbed in their extra-Biblical terminology and concepts, which they see almost everywhere in scriptures. In actuality the philosophy has been placed over the scripture so that the scripture is being filtered by the philosophy, thus blinding the indoctrinated trinitarian to what the scripture is actually saying. Many scriptures were corrupted by copyists. Add to this the fact that most of our translations are the product of trinitarian scholars who wished to see the scriptures translated in such a way so as to make them appear to support the added trintarian dogma.

Nice try.

I will point out the following to other readers: ZW has repeatedly refused to engage clearly expressed arguments for the divinity in another thread. This silence on challenges to his position speaks quite loudly.

If anyone wants to read these arguments, I will gladly re-post in this thread or refer you to another thread.

 

[WIP]

It is frustrating at times because most indoctrinated trinitarians seem to be so absorbed in their extra-Biblical terminology and concepts, which they see almost everywhere in scriptures. In actuality the philosophy has been placed over the scripture so that the scripture is being filtered by the philosophy, thus blinding the indoctrinated trinitarian to what the scripture is actually saying. Many scriptures were corrupted by copyists. Add to this the fact that most of our translations are the product of trinitarian scholars who wished to see the scriptures translated in such a way so as to make them appear to support the added trintarian dogma.

All I can say is, "What did he say?"

 

[demonXecutor]

KJV Luk 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
Luk 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

18, 19 Jesus was saying, Why do you call me good? You don't see me as the Son of God. The ruler was just looking at Jesus as just another prophet, teacher sent by God, not the Son of God. So in a sense, the ruler was giving Jesus "lip service", that is, the way he approached Jesus.

In a sense, the ruler was giving Jesus a loaded question. In the ruler's own mind, he already knew that he kept to the letter of the law and didn't lack anything, so Jesus will just pat me on the back and say well done good and faithful servant.
The ruler's approach and conviction was more carnally minded than spiritually minded.

There's more to it, just keeping it short.

 

[Eventide]

So let's ask the question..

Who believes that THEY are GOOD.. and WHY..

That's the heart of the question which the Lord asked, isn't it..

WHY do you call me good ?

 

[elijah23]

I think the reason we sooner or later become “good†is because the only way to be happy is to be “good.†In other words, we aren’t really good—we’re smart. Only the Father is good.

 

[Joe67]

I think the reason we sooner or later become “good†is because the only way to be happy is to be “good.†In other words, we aren’t really good—we’re smart. Only the Father is good.

e23,

Jesus' divine origin is the first question settled in this communication.

The final question settled is the true character of the divine nature.

The rich young ruler went away sorrowful because of the great amount of his possessions.

The obvious thought is the pain he felt at being separated from the possessions, but as we become older there are more deep-seated spiritual problems revealed to us concerning this obstacle to eternal life.

Joe

 

[Eventide]

Never hurts to BUMP this one up..

So of all the Christians on this board (and even non Christians), there are none that believe that they are GOOD ?

Maybe there are some who think and believe that they are good like God, just not willing to say it ?

 

[WIP]

We have all sinned and fall short. No one is righteous, no, not one.