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Bible Study A YES OR NO QUESTION.

Well, hello saintman. Those two questions are very important for every Christian, and I see that you profess to be a believer in Christ Jesus. Therefore I give to you a warm greeting in the Name of our Lord and Savior Jesus, the Son of God Almighty of which I give the highest praise. Jesus, Who was, Who is, and Who is to come. Hold fast, my new friend "thesaintman" Jesus is coming soon!

Now, to your questions:
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments. 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

I have to leave right now, but I will return, shortly I hope, to continue helping you.
 
thesaintman said:
THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDES US INTO ALL TRUTH?
THE HOLY SPIRIT LIVES INSIDE OF US AND TEACHES US?
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Yes, enough for what we are to know, for now.

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

All things are worked out, experientially, in the processing of the ages, culminating in 1 Cor. 15:28.

Ephesians 2:7
That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
 
I'm back. Another Scripture about the Holy Spirit is:
John 14:25 "These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

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John 16:7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

As you can see from these Scriptures, not only does the Holy Spirit live inside us, He leads us into all truth because He simply keeps teaching us because Jesus is no longer here to teach us Himself.

Was there a particular problem with your understanding of the Holy Spirits ministry in our hearts and minds? I'd be happy to help you understand from the Scriptures and from my past studies.

Don't ever forget my friend, Jesus loves you so very much and so do I. :hug
 
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Yes, enough for what we are to know, for now.

John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

All things are worked out, experientially, in the processing of the ages, culminating in 1 Cor. 15:28.

Ephesians 2:7
That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
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If this is the case, then does all truth come by way of the Holy Spirit?
I mean to say, that even the heathens accept truth, for there are universal truths. Pilet asked, "What is truth".... do we need to ask the same?
 
StoveBolts said:
If this is the case, then does all truth come by way of the Holy Spirit?
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We "enter" matters of the Holy Spirit via active participation from the receipt and distribution of Divine Matters and Intentions. The intentions here are basically 2 fold. We are both put down and lifted up.

I mean to say, that even the heathens accept truth, for there are universal truths. Pilet asked, "What is truth".... do we need to ask the same?
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I believe John spoke accurately in 1 John 4:7. I also believe that Paul said, basically the identical thing in Romans 1:20 and Romans 2:15. We can in most cases easily witness to Jesus Christ in many ways to these matters from their God built in reception identifiers.
 
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Have you thought on these things as well? In Genesis 1:2 , God's spirit (rewach) is also translated as "cool air" in Genesis 3:8 and again as wind in Exodus 10:13... but what is of notice to me, is how this same rewach (God's spirit) is signified in Genesis 6:3 emphasis on Genesis 7:15

I believe this should fit nicely with the passages you have already posted.

What I take away from this is that every human being has the Sprit of God in them. It's part of our DNA from when God "breathed" into Adam a "living soul".

Truth only comes from God, for God is truth... even for those who deny there even being a "god", they still know of God as a picture of an ostridge sticking it's head in the sand comes to mind. People can deny things all they like, but just because we deny some things, does not nullify their existence.

This idea that only those who accept Christ are the only ones who know the "truth" is a farce. Truth is all around us if we open our eyes to it and together, with the Holy Spirit, we can work together in the lives of so many searching for the truth that's been inside of them all along...
 
StoveBolts said:
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Have you thought on these things as well? In Genesis 1:2 , God's spirit (rewach) is also translated as "cool air" in Genesis 3:8 and again as wind in Exodus 10:13... but what is of notice to me, is how this same rewach (God's spirit) is signified in Genesis 6:3 emphasis on Genesis 7:15

I believe this should fit nicely with the passages you have already posted.

What I take away from this is that every human being has the Sprit of God in them. It's part of our DNA from when God "breathed" into Adam a "living soul".

Truth only comes from God, for God is truth... even for those who deny there even being a "god", they still know of God as a picture of an ostridge sticking it's head in the sand comes to mind. People can deny things all they like, but just because we deny some things, does not nullify their existence.

This idea that only those who accept Christ are the only ones who know the "truth" is a farce. Truth is all around us if we open our eyes to it and together, with the Holy Spirit, we can work together in the lives of so many searching for the truth that's been inside of them all along...
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There is a truth that Only the Holy Spirit can make known to you, and that is the revelation and the knowledge of the Glory of Christ in You.
 
ezrider said:
There is a truth that Only the Holy Spirit can make known to you, and that is the revelation and the knowledge of the Glory of Christ in You.
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Amen, for even Jesus tells Peter, "It was made known to you by my Father"....
So, why does the Father not reveal himself to All, when he desires All to be saved?
 
StoveBolts said:
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Have you thought on these things as well? In Genesis 1:2 , God's spirit (rewach) is also translated as "cool air" in Genesis 3:8 and again as wind in Exodus 10:13... but what is of notice to me, is how this same rewach (God's spirit) is signified in Genesis 6:3 emphasis on Genesis 7:15

I believe this should fit nicely with the passages you have already posted.

What I take away from this is that every human being has the Sprit of God in them. It's part of our DNA from when God "breathed" into Adam a "living soul".

Truth only comes from God, for God is truth... even for those who deny there even being a "god", they still know of God as a picture of an ostridge sticking it's head in the sand comes to mind. People can deny things all they like, but just because we deny some things, does not nullify their existence.

This idea that only those who accept Christ are the only ones who know the "truth" is a farce. Truth is all around us if we open our eyes to it and together, with the Holy Spirit, we can work together in the lives of so many searching for the truth that's been inside of them all along...
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Indeed above. I have no issues whatsoever in making the connection between God in Christ and Love, which all have tasted of. Or conversely, pointing out the mind/heart slaveship of Satan in the evil conscience via adverse thoughts, at least directing the blinded to be repulsed by that intrusion which they may have thought prior to only be 'themselves.' "No, you are a pawn." "A slave of another, an evil internal manipulator."

As to wind, ah. So many features of the deployments of wind in the text in the Ways of allegory. Were we to examine our own lives, intimately, in the ways of allegory, we'd find that God in Christ has actually been with us, all along in our lives, in these various ways.
 
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Indeed above. I have no issues whatsoever in making the connection between God in Christ and Love, which all have tasted of. Or conversely, pointing out the mind/heart slaveship of Satan in the evil conscience via adverse thoughts, at least directing the blinded to be repulsed by that intrusion which they may have thought prior to only be 'themselves.' "No, you are a pawn." "A slave of another, an evil internal manipulator."

As to wind, ah. So many features of the deployments of wind in the text in the Ways of allegory. Were we to examine our own lives, intimately, in the ways of allegory, we'd find that God in Christ has actually been with us, all along in our lives, in these various ways.
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John 3:8 The wind (nooma) bloweth where it will, and thou hearest the voice thereof, but knowest not whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit (nooma).

Not much need for allegory... just an open mind :)
 
StoveBolts said:
Amen, for even Jesus tells Peter, "It was made known to you by my Father"....
So, why does the Father not reveal himself to All, when he desires All to be saved?
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You'll find your answer in Romans 11:25-32. Go, observe the 'construction' of what we currently are in Romans 9:17-23. You'll see the same construct when you observe the blinded Jews in Romans 11:8 or 2 Cor. 3:14 or 2 Cor. 4:4 or Mark 4:15 as to "who" and "what" caused their blindness. BUT, one has to "concede" to the present fact of Mark 4:15, personally, before it can be seen.

They'll be saved anyway. It is not just people we "engage" in our witness of Christ. We also have an internal enemy to get by. Acts 26:18.

God in Christ Is on our side, when we direct our attentions to the facts of our opposition party, rather than the slave, the captive.
 
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This is a unique kind of idolatry I speak of. Very close to our hearts.

Romans 1:21-23
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man.


Because of their idolatry, there remains a vail over their hearts. Which vail is done away in Christ.
 
StoveBolts said:
Interesting.... God doesn't reveal himself to idolaters? What about homosexuals, liars, prostitutes and thieves?
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You probably see just people. With the case of homosexuals I see two devils pawning two flesh slave men. There are 4 in bed, not just 2.
 
FOOTNOTE: God never disagrees with Himself and the Three of the Triune Godhead Are One. I am aware some members here disagree with this truth but it is truth and as much as people want God to have changed during the, approx., 400 years, God is neither a liar nor does the One perfect being err. And Mal. 3:6a, does indeed, fit perfectly with the rest of the Holy Writ of God.

God never changes is such a comfort to the soul, lost or saved, God is the one Eternal Truth. It is thus that any new revelation be checked against what God, in His infinate wisdom has recorded for us to use for every purpose in our lives. Remember, God does not change, His words. If anything does not fit into what God has had men to record for our edification, the spirit you are hearing from is not God. That is one slippery slope.
 
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