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Abortion and the Health Care Bill & The Catholic Church

Lewis

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Abortion and the Health Care Bill
Christopher Badeaux: The Catholic Church Suffered a Profound Failure Sunday Night in Washington

I am not competent to speak to health care policy. I can tell you the pitfalls of the current system and its strengths from personal experience only; I can talk about economic incentives and disincentives to behavior in the system as it exists and in the system as it will soon exist from my extremely limited grasp of economics; and I can talk about the process of shopping health insurance for an individual or for a small business. But on the merits of the system as it currently stands against the bill that was passed in the Senate months ago and the House last night, I’m unashamedly out of my depth. I leave that to the wiser people who write here.

I can talk about the Catholic Church and its profound failure yesterday.

It is not an understatement to say that the American Catholic Church lost the abortion wars for three decades, and only began to dig in and hold ground starting with the election of the extremely Protestant George W. Bush.

That loss can be attributed to hundreds of factors - among them, the cultural shifts the Baby Boom’s coming of age set in motion, the liberalization of the Church following Vatican II, and William Brennan (the nominal Catholic on the Supreme Court for decades) being one of the leading hands in crafting the nearly immutable law that contradicts one of his alleged Church’s oldest teachings - but some blame belongs with the deliberate decision of the Church hierarchy to remain allied with the national Democratic Party, long after the majority of its flock had left behind the old urban enclaves.

There is a clear line that runs from treating the Kennedy clan as Catholic royalty for six decades, through ignoring the legions of nominal American Catholic politicians who treat the abortion license with more reverence than they do a consecrated host, to today’s de facto (and, really, de jure) destruction of the decades-old consensus that taxpayer dollars would not directly subsidize abortion (other than the funding Planned Parenthood takes from the government, and the limited Medicaid abortion exceptions).

The reasons for this cataclysmic pastoral failure are as varied as there are and were bishops since Roe v. Wade was handed down: Habit (Catholics had been Democrats for decades, and their priests and bishops frequently more so); reflexive agreement with so much else in the Democratic Party’s platform; a bizarre belief that those wayward Catholic politicians were speaking from a misguided application of their consciences; simple political naivete (surely something like this couldn’t happen); to a thousand other reasons and combinations thereof.

At the most basic possible level, the Catholic Bishops - the men I hold as a matter of faith to be in the direct line of Apostolic Succession - have enabled scandal, and it has finally flowered in full. A bishop has plenary discretion in the manner in which he brings his wayward sheep back into the fold, but by any measure, to put this politely, the American bishops’ exercise of their discretion has been a total embarrassment. Scandal is the act of teaching, from a position of authority, by word or deed, that what is evil is actually good. For essentially my entire lifetime, the Democratic Party has made as one of its governing planks that women have an inherent right to murder their children. Catholic Democrats have not, with a tiny handful of exceptions, bothered to even murmur a protest; the most prominent among them have taken up that position as their own - some without even bothering to run for the Presidency first.

The roster of names is so long that its recitation would be a total rebuke to the authority of any American Catholic bishop now living and many dead. Kennedy, Leahy, Kucinich, Drinan, Durbin, Pelosi, Casey (Jr.), Mitchell, Sebelius, Cuomo, I could go on. These are men and women who have made it the goal of their careers to advocate the abortion license, to preserve it and expand it. The leaders in the fight to keep public funding of abortion were overwhelmingly self-professed Catholics. Last night, they succeeded.

They teach by word and act that abortion is, at worst, an unfortunately necessary convenience, and is more often a good. They create scandal. They do so as Catholics.

Who among them has been publicly remonstrated by his bishop? Who among them has had to stand in public and choose between an honest recitation of the Nicene Creed and Planned Parenthood v. Casey? Who among them has been reminded of Christ’s injunction about scandal and millstones where their audiences and constituencies can hear?

Why would anyone expect Bart Stupak - otherwise a consummate Democrat - to hold up a health care reform bill against his Party and his Party’s President when even the men who are supposed to stand against evil every waking moment of their lives appear more concerned about the environment, about immigrant rights, about the death penalty? What Catholic sitting in the pews or watching on TV would think there’s anything wrong with abortion when Mario Cuomo’s dishonest justification has stood without censure or excommunication for over a quarter of a century?

The blood of millions will now be shed by the public coffers. That blood lies on the hands of the men with mitres.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/22/opinion/main6323651.shtml
 
did he say that we have just funded abortion. :mad

can we just nuke all planned parenthood facilties and dig up sangers grave and cast her remains into the ocean

i wish, but that isnt the way of the cross.
 
Obama signs order affirming ban on federal funds for abortions
The low-key ceremony reflects misgivings among many about the deal he made with anti-abortion Democrats to secure passage of the healthcare bill.

Reporting from Washington - With little fanfare, President Obama on Wednesday signed an executive order that was the basis of a deal struck with anti-abortion House Democrats, whose votes were crucial to passing the landmark healthcare overhaul.

Obama, coming off a day on which he made full use of White House pageantry to sign the healthcare bill, took a conspicuously low-key approach.

No news photographers or reporters were allowed into the signing ceremony in the Oval Office. Nor did the White House circulate a statement confirming that it took place. Instead, the White House released its own photo showing Obama at his desk, pen in hand.

The order restates a policy barring the use of federal funds to pay for most abortions. During the 2008 presidential campaign, Obama's staff wrote in response to a questionnaire that he opposed the abortion-funding ban, known as the Hyde Amendment.

Invited to the signing were a cluster of anti-abortion Democrats, including Rep. Bart Stupak of Michigan. Stupak had led a bloc of House Democrats who threatened to withhold their votes for the healthcare package absent a guarantee that federal money would not be used to pay for abortions.

On Sunday, the day of the House vote, the executive order proved to be the compromise that won over Stupak and the others.

Neither Republican opponents of the healthcare package nor liberal elements of Obama's base seem happy with the executive order. And it's not clear that it was legally necessary.

If the Hyde Amendment is already in effect, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs was asked at the daily news briefing, why the need for an executive order reaffirming the same policy? Gibbs said: "We reiterated the status quo, and we're comfortable reiterating that status quo."

Abortion-rights advocates said they were disappointed with Obama's order.

"What we need to hear our leaders say is that the Hyde Amendment is bad law," said Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization for Women. "It needs to ultimately be repealed. It hurts women."

On the other side of the divide, the anti-abortion camp said the order is deficient in part because it does not carry the force of law. Cardinal Francis George, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said in a statement: "We do not understand how an executive order, no matter how well intentioned, can substitute for statutory provisions."

The executive order took effect on a day when Capitol Hill is still coping with the fallout from the bill's passage.

As debate raged in the Senate over a "fix" package for the overhaul, Republicans continued to register their displeasure with the proceedings by holding up committee hearings for a second consecutive day.

A Senate Armed Services Committee hearing that had required commanders to fly in from South Korea and Hawaii to testify was scrubbed -- as was another panel's hearing for UC Berkeley law professor Goodwin Liu, nominated for a seat on the federal appeals court in San Francisco.

GOP senators are unhappy because Democrats are pushing through the package of healthcare modifications using a process known as reconciliation, which requires a bare majority of 51 senators and vitiates use of the filibuster.

Late Wednesday, the Senate ended the required 20-hour debate period for the fixes and began voting on a wave of amendments offered by Republicans that are designed to force Democrats to make a series of embarrassing "no" votes.

One amendment offered by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), for example, would prohibit the government from covering erectile dysfunction drugs for convicted sex offenders. Another would force Democrats to take a stand against establishing a government-run insurance provider, which is favored by many liberals.

The series of votes, dubbed the "Vote-a-rama," was expected to last deep into the night.

Republicans were also planning to launch a series of procedural attacks on the healthcare bill.

If any of the amendments were approved or any of the parliamentary objections found valid, the House would have to vote again on the package after the Senate passed it. A Senate vote is expected by week's end.
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-na-obama-healthcare25-2010mar25,0,5808676.story
 
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