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Thousands of years ago Abraham gave prophecy using astrological signs. And by that Astrology was built by the vain imaginings of people.

What is the oldest astrology sign?

In early mythology. "Pisces" is the Latin word for "Fishes." It is one of the earliest zodiac signs on record, with the two fish appearing as far back as c. 2300 BC on an Egyptian coffin lid.

Abram ben Terah. 2150 BCE.
The discovery of the clay Elam tablets in Iran provided the third reference point to accurately date the life of Abram, confirming that he lived in the 2300 / 2200nd century BC,

Astrology originated in Babylon far back in antiquity, with the Babylonians developing their own form of horoscopes around 2,400 years ago.
This date is not confirmed but is a approximation.

There is scattered evidence to suggest that the oldest known astrological references are copies of texts made particularly in Mesopotamia (Sumer, Akkad, Assyria and Babylonia). Two, from the Venus tablet of Ammisaduqa (compiled in Babylon round 1700 BC) are reported to have been made during the reign of king Sargon of Akkad 2334-2279 BC. Another, showing an early use of electional astrology, is ascribed to the reign of the Sumerian ruler Gudea of Lagash. 2144 - 2124 BC. This describes how the gods revealed to him in a dream the constellations that would be most favourable for the planned construction of a temple. However, controversy attends the question of whether they were genuinely recorded at the time or merely ascribed to ancient rulers by posterity. The oldest undisputed evidence of the use of astrology as an integrated system of knowledge is therefore attributed to the records that emerge from the first dynasty of Mesopotamia 1950-1651 BC.
 
Where is the scripture for this as I doubt that Abraham sought after other gods, especially to build a Temple. It was Solomon that built the first Temple. All Abraham built was an altar to the Lord, Genesis 12:8.

1Kings 6 shows us that Solomon built the first Temple according to certain specifications as it took him seven years to build.

Ezra 6:14-15 the Jews did not build the second Temple according to the vision Ezekiel received, Ezekiel 40-48. Instead, God commanded his prophets Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi not to build the Temple according to Ezekiel's vision because it was intended to be an everlasting edifice connected with everlasting redemption, something the Israelites were not ready to receive after their exile from Babylon.

When the Jewish people emerged from exile at the decree of Babylon's King Cyrus their repentance was only partial and many of the Jews remained under foreign rule. The second Temple was built under Ezra’s leadership and Israel continued practicing Judaism and their Temple was desecrated as part of an effort to impose Greek-oriented culture and customs on the entire population. Roman rule refurbished the temple as Herod, Romans vassal king, rules the land of Israel. In 70 A.D. the Temple is once again destroyed. The Temple Mount was taken over in 691 A.D. as the Arab nation built the Dome of the Rock and there has not been any other Temple built since that time on the original Temple Mount.

When the Israelites were about to enter the Promised land of Canaan God warned them not to practice astrology, Deuteronomy 18:9-14; Isaiah 47:10-14

It was Taoism that influenced the Zodiac to determine a persons future. Before that it was the Mesopotamians that created astrology that were the civilizations of Sumer, Babylon and Assyria in which God called Abraham out of those countries for the evil they practiced that came against God as they were none of His own.
 
Where is the scripture for this as I doubt that Abraham sought after other gods, especially to build a Temple. It was Solomon that built the first Temple. All Abraham built was an altar to the Lord, Genesis 12:8.

1Kings 6 shows us that Solomon built the first Temple according to certain specifications as it took him seven years to build.

Ezra 6:14-15 the Jews did not build the second Temple according to the vision Ezekiel received, Ezekiel 40-48. Instead, God commanded his prophets Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi not to build the Temple according to Ezekiel's vision because it was intended to be an everlasting edifice connected with everlasting redemption, something the Israelites were not ready to receive after their exile from Babylon.

When the Jewish people emerged from exile at the decree of Babylon's King Cyrus their repentance was only partial and many of the Jews remained under foreign rule. The second Temple was built under Ezra’s leadership and Israel continued practicing Judaism and their Temple was desecrated as part of an effort to impose Greek-oriented culture and customs on the entire population. Roman rule refurbished the temple as Herod, Romans vassal king, rules the land of Israel. In 70 A.D. the Temple is once again destroyed. The Temple Mount was taken over in 691 A.D. as the Arab nation built the Dome of the Rock and there has not been any other Temple built since that time on the original Temple Mount.

When the Israelites were about to enter the Promised land of Canaan God warned them not to practice astrology, Deuteronomy 18:9-14; Isaiah 47:10-14

It was Taoism that influenced the Zodiac to determine a persons future. Before that it was the Mesopotamians that created astrology that were the civilizations of Sumer, Babylon and Assyria in which God called Abraham out of those countries for the evil they practiced that came against God as they were none of His own.
The Hebrew word for Zodiac is Mazzaroth.. Job 38 plus other Constellations through out the Scripture....Psalm 19 says the Heavens declare the Glory of Elohiym even though their voice is silent....Seth is accredited with the Mazzaroth...an by no means is it evil....for instance Virgo the virgin brings for the (Revelation 12)manchild and not a single Constellation in the heavens can be drawn out in the night sky.....it is the Gospel....now man has perverted the meanings of each Constellation and the 3 decons/veils of the story each depicts.

Every major civilization had the zodiac, Chaldeans, Egyptians, Greeks, East Indians, Chinese, Myans, Aztecs, and the Vikings. They all have the story of the flood as well.
 
The Hebrew word for Zodiac is Mazzaroth.. Job 38 plus other Constellations through out the Scripture....Psalm 19 says the Heavens declare the Glory of Elohiym even though their voice is silent....Seth is accredited with the Mazzaroth...an by no means is it evil....for instance Virgo the virgin brings for the (Revelation 12)manchild and not a single Constellation in the heavens can be drawn out in the night sky.....it is the Gospel....now man has perverted the meanings of each Constellation and the 3 decons/veils of the story each depicts.

Every major civilization had the zodiac, Chaldeans, Egyptians, Greeks, East Indians, Chinese, Myans, Aztecs, and the Vikings. They all have the story of the flood as well.
Astronomy is very different then astrology as we see astronomy throughout scripture as signs and wonders that God gives us to watch for.

Each Zodiac sign aligns themselves to mythical Greek gods and also a part of fortune telling, soothsayers. The astrology of Zodiacs is not supported with scripture, but comes against scripture.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12; Isaiah 47:1-15; Jeremiah 10:2; Micha 5:12
 
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Astronomy is very different then astrology as we see astronomy throughout scripture as signs and wonders that God gives us to watch for.

Each Zodiac sign aligns themselves to mythical Greek gods and also a part of fortune telling, soothsayers. The astrology of Zodiacs is not supported with scripture, but comes against scripture.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12; Isaiah 47:1-15; Jeremiah 10:2; Micha 5:12
Disagree. Each zodiac sign and every constellation depict some aspect of the Gospel of God in the stars concerning Prophet, Priest, King, Lord, and Savior Jesus Christ.
And the origin of astrology is found in Genesis 11.
But before then God placed the prophecies of the Redeemer as a picture bible in the stars for His people who hadn't invented writing and definitely couldn't read.
 
Disagree. Each zodiac sign and every constellation depict some aspect of the Gospel of God in the stars concerning Prophet, Priest, King, Lord, and Savior Jesus Christ.
And the origin of astrology is found in Genesis 11.
But before then God placed the prophecies of the Redeemer as a picture bible in the stars for His people who hadn't invented writing and definitely couldn't read.
Where is any redemptive meaning for the constellations given in scripture? Where does the Bible teach that the gospel is given in the stars?
 
Where is any redemptive meaning for the constellations given in scripture? Where does the Bible teach that the gospel is given in the stars?
The prophecies of the Redeemer are graphically illustrated in the stars and constellations and the zodiac before Nimrod and his cohorts distorted it and made it about him and men.
The Psalmist talks about the heavens. Notice there is speech and knowledge to be gained and it's not just that there is a heaven so there must be a Creator. It is much more. It was through his knowledge of the prophecies in the stars that Enoch prophesied about the Second Coming of Messiah BEFORE the first.

1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
And the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech,
And night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language,
Where their voice is not heard.
Ps 19:1–3.

The whole chapter is about the Word of God in the stars that can convert the soul and learn the testimony (speech) of the LORD.

4 He telleth the number of the stars;
He calleth them all by their names.
Ps 147:4.

Adam named the animals, but God named the stars and in each star name there is meaning. A group of stars is a constellation and makes a sentence. But after the flood this knowledge was lost. But it has come back at least in the last two hundred years.

32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth [zodiac] in his season?
Or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
Job 38:32.

9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion,
And Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
Job 9:9.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen. 1:14.

11 And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria, which had wintered in the isle, whose sign was Castor and Pollux.
Act. 28:11.

Spica means the Branch.
Arcturus means He comes.
Pollux means who comes to suffer.
Antares means the wounded.
Sirius means the Prince.
Elnath means slain.
Procyon means the Redeemer.
Vega means He shall be exalted.
Regulus means regal, the King Star.
And there is more.
Man might be able to injure God's written word, but no man can touch the Gospel in the Stars placed there by God as witness of His Only Begotten Son.

 
Where is any redemptive meaning for the constellations given in scripture? Where does the Bible teach that the gospel is given in the stars?
Here is the lesson of Genesis 11 and the tower of Babel:

4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top [may reach] unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. Gen. 11:4.

The words "may reach" were added by the KJV translators. It would read "whose top unto heaven." What these builders wanted to do was mimic on the ceiling of their tower the Gospel of God in the stars but instead of the prophecies of the Redeemer they made it about Nimrod and themselves and this is where astrology began. It is a mutilation of the prophecies God placed in the stars when He created the heaven.
 
Disagree. Each zodiac sign and every constellation depict some aspect of the Gospel of God in the stars concerning Prophet, Priest, King, Lord, and Savior Jesus Christ.
And the origin of astrology is found in Genesis 11.
But before then God placed the prophecies of the Redeemer as a picture bible in the stars for His people who hadn't invented writing and definitely couldn't read.
Astronomy is of a truth, and Astrology is a falsehood.
 
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The prophecies of the Redeemer are graphically illustrated in the stars and constellations and the zodiac before Nimrod and his cohorts distorted it and made it about him and men.
The Psalmist talks about the heavens. Notice there is speech and knowledge to be gained and it's not just that there is a heaven so there must be a Creator. It is much more. It was through his knowledge of the prophecies in the stars that Enoch prophesied about the Second Coming of Messiah BEFORE the first.

1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
And the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech,
And night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language,
Where their voice is not heard.
Ps 19:1–3.

The whole chapter is about the Word of God in the stars that can convert the soul and learn the testimony (speech) of the LORD.

4 He telleth the number of the stars;
He calleth them all by their names.
Ps 147:4.

Adam named the animals, but God named the stars and in each star name there is meaning. A group of stars is a constellation and makes a sentence. But after the flood this knowledge was lost. But it has come back at least in the last two hundred years.

32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth [zodiac] in his season?
Or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
Job 38:32.

9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion,
And Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
Job 9:9.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen. 1:14.

11 And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria, which had wintered in the isle, whose sign was Castor and Pollux.
Act. 28:11.

Spica means the Branch.
Arcturus means He comes.
Pollux means who comes to suffer.
Antares means the wounded.
Sirius means the Prince.
Elnath means slain.
Procyon means the Redeemer.
Vega means He shall be exalted.
Regulus means regal, the King Star.
And there is more.
Man might be able to injure God's written word, but no man can touch the Gospel in the Stars placed there by God as witness of His Only Begotten Son.

Job 38:32. KJV
Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

Job 38:3. NIV
32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons[a]
or lead out the Bear[b] with its cubs?

Footnotes:
Job 38:32 Or the morning star in its season
Job 38:32 Or out Leo


My translation.
Can you bring forth the Morning Stars in their season? Or can you lead The Lion with his sons?

Morning Stars are the people of God.

Christ is The Lion of (Judah) the faithful.

The Lion Cubs are the Sons of God.

Genesis 49:9
You are a lion’s cub, Judah; you return from the prey, my son. Like a lion he crouches and lies down, like a lioness—who dares to rouse him?

Deuteronomy 33:22
About Dan he said: “Dan is a lion’s cub, springing out of Bashan.”

Job 3
8 May those who curse days curse that day,
those who are ready to rouse (The Dragon / Leviathan.)
9 May its morning stars become dark;
may it wait for daylight in vain
and not see the first rays of dawn,

2 Peter 1:19
We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

Revelation 2:28
I will also give that one the morning star.

Revelation 1:20
The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the (messengers / angels) of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.


Revelation 12:7
Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his (messengers / angels) fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.

And God called the firmament heaven.

Genesis 1:6
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9. And God said, Let the waters under the Heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

Heaven
Luke 17:21

nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is among you."
"At hand" means "here."

Matthew 3:2
And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Matthew 4:17
From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Matthew 10:7
And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Revelation 12:9
The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
 
Job 38:32. KJV
Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

Job 38:3. NIV
32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons[a]
or lead out the Bear[b] with its cubs?

Footnotes:
Job 38:32 Or the morning star in its season
Job 38:32 Or out Leo


My translation.
Can you bring forth the Morning Stars in their season? Or can you lead The Lion with his sons?

Morning Stars are the people of God.

Christ is The Lion of (Judah) the faithful.

The Lion Cubs are the Sons of God.

Genesis 49:9
You are a lion’s cub, Judah; you return from the prey, my son. Like a lion he crouches and lies down, like a lioness—who dares to rouse him?

Deuteronomy 33:22
About Dan he said: “Dan is a lion’s cub, springing out of Bashan.”

Job 3
8 May those who curse days curse that day,
those who are ready to rouse (The Dragon / Leviathan.)
9 May its morning stars become dark;
may it wait for daylight in vain
and not see the first rays of dawn,

2 Peter 1:19
We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

Revelation 2:28
I will also give that one the morning star.

Revelation 1:20
The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the (messengers / angels) of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.


Revelation 12:7
Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his (messengers / angels) fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.

And God called the firmament heaven.

Genesis 1:6
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9. And God said, Let the waters under the Heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

Heaven
Luke 17:21

nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is among you."
"At hand" means "here."

Matthew 3:2
And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Matthew 4:17
From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Matthew 10:7
And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Revelation 12:9
The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Are these your own interpretation or are you taking it from someone's bible study and if so, who?

32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season?
Or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
Job 38:32.

Strong's Hebrew: "Mazzaroth" [#4216] mazzârâh appar. from [#5144] in the sense of distinction; some noted constellation (only in the plural.), perhaps collectively the zodiac. Compare [#4208.]

[#4208] mazzâlâh appar. from [#5140] in the sense of raining; a constellation, i.e. Zodiacal sign (perh. as affecting the weather.)

Apparently the Mazzaroth is the Zodiac of twelve signs that circuit the heaven. It is distinct from one single star and is in the plural form a constellation.

Seems you are incorrect. This word does not denote people as the context is clearly speaking of the heaven where Arcturus is the brightest star in the northern constellation Boötes.

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Boötes represents the Shepherd guarding, the coming Shepherd.
The Gospel of God in the stars.
 
Are these your own interpretation or are you taking it from someone's bible study and if so, who?

32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season?
Or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
Job 38:32.

Strong's Hebrew: "Mazzaroth" [#4216] mazzârâh appar. from [#5144] in the sense of distinction; some noted constellation (only in the plural.), perhaps collectively the zodiac. Compare [#4208.]

[#4208] mazzâlâh appar. from [#5140] in the sense of raining; a constellation, i.e. Zodiacal sign (perh. as affecting the weather.)

Apparently the Mazzaroth is the Zodiac of twelve signs that circuit the heaven. It is distinct from one single star and is in the plural form a constellation.

Seems you are incorrect. This word does not denote people as the context is clearly speaking of the heaven where Arcturus is the brightest star in the northern constellation Boötes.

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Boötes represents the Shepherd guarding, the coming Shepherd.
The Gospel of God in the stars.
A bear is a symbol for Satan. The interpretations are mine from my own study.

Job 38:32


New International Version



32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons[a]
or lead out the Bear[b] with its cubs?

Footnotes​

  1. Job 38:32 Or the morning star in its season
  2. Job 38:32 Or out Leo

Christian – symbol of evil, cruelty, greed, carnal appetite; on Norman churches represents Satan.
 
A bear is a symbol for Satan. The interpretations are mine from my own study.

Job 38:32​

New International Version​

32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons[a]
or lead out the Bear[b] with its cubs?

Footnotes​

  1. Job 38:32 Or the morning star in its season
  2. Job 38:32 Or out Leo
Christian – symbol of evil, cruelty, greed, carnal appetite; on Norman churches represents Satan.
As Captain Kirk once said to Mr. Spock: "Are you out of your Vulcan mind!"

Let me guess...you're not a born-again Christian are you.