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I know there are many teachings on this subject that disagree with each teaching, but I am founding this on Ezekiel 8:3; John 3:13 and Rev 1:10 as not being taken up to heaven, but only caught up in the Spirit right where you are into a Spiritual realm that is neither heaven or earth.

2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: 3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. 4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life. 5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit. 6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

vs. 1 is speaking about the tabernacle of God that is within us as we are the Temple of God, 1 Corinthians 3:16, 17, and when we physically die we will have eternal life with Him in the New Jerusalem
vs. 2 we desire to be in our new home, the New Jerusalem, that will be ushered down from heaven at the end of days, Rev 21
vs. 3 we are clothed in Gods righteousness as we will not be found naked, Isaiah 61:10
vs. 4 We are the Temple of God, but yet we do have burdens as we still live in this fleshly body waiting for immortality when Christ returns, 1 Corinthians 15:51-54
vs. 5 basic as we have Gods Spirit dwelling in us as we need to walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh, Galatians 5:16, 17
vs. 6 we are confident knowing that if we are walking in the flesh we are absent from God because flesh and Spirit can not mix, Galatians 5:17
vs. 7 we walk by faith, which is Christ Jesus as we seek those things from above and not the things of this world, Colossians 3:1-4
vs. 8 we are confident if we are walking in the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit) we are no longer following the lust of the flesh, 1 John 2:16

Absent from the body and present with the Lord means that we are no longer in the flesh, but now walking in the Spirit having fellowship with God while still being here on earth.
 
There is an actual departure according to Philippians 1:23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body.

Luke 23:42Then he said to Jesus, “Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.”
43And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”
 
Hi Maliah inked here and welcome to CF :wave2


When you go back to Philippians 1:20 Paul is speaking about his life or by death as for to me to live is Christ (Christ in me) or by death (at death our spirit/breath returns back to God who made us a living soul) so if we die it is gain for those who have run their race well and have now come to their eternal rest in Christ. Departing this wicked world and waiting for the resurrection to eternal life with the Father is far better. Paul faced much persecution for the sake of Christ until the day he died.

The theif on the cross at the last moment recognized Jesus as the promised Messiah come and with his dying breath accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior and will be a part of the first resurrection when Christ returns, John 5:28-29.

We have to believe the scriptures for what has already been written in John 3:13 rather than to believe man's doctrines.

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
 

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