Act like you're Not Married

[researcher]

Paul wrote this to the Corinthians. I figured it surely has relevance to us today.

1Co 7:29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;

Also, don't cry, or be happy

1Co 7:30 And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not;

Why? The time is short. Like Paul said.

For the last 1900 years, Christian men should have been acting like they had no wives. Also no crying, or being happy. The time was short. Obviously.

 

[Adullam]

Paul wrote this to the Corinthians. I figured it surely has relevance to us today.

1Co 7:29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;

Also, don't cry, or be happy

1Co 7:30 And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not;

Why? The time is short. Like Paul said.

For the last 1900 years, Christian men should have been acting like they had no wives. Also no crying, or being happy. The time was short. Obviously.

Man, I could get into a lot of trouble by doing that ! ;)

But this is a call to consecration. Many use their families or loved ones as excuses to remain unavailable. A proper balance must of course be maintained. I once was so busy in church matters that I severely neglected my own family. But there is a very good point in making ourselves available to the Lord. There is a difference between the church and the Lord after all.

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John

 

[samuel]

I thinketh thee doth misunderstandeth.

 

[researcher]

Paul wrote this to the Corinthians. I figured it surely has relevance to us today.

1Co 7:29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;

Also, don't cry, or be happy

1Co 7:30 And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not;

Why? The time is short. Like Paul said.

For the last 1900 years, Christian men should have been acting like they had no wives. Also no crying, or being happy. The time was short. Obviously.

Man, I could get into a lot of trouble by doing that ! ;)

But this is a call to consecration. Many use their families or loved ones as excuses to remain unavailable. A proper balance must of course be maintained. I once was so busy in church matters that I severely neglected my own family. But there is a very good point in making ourselves available to the Lord. There is a difference between the church and the Lord after all.

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John

1Co 7:29 the time is short:

Just reading what he said! :D

Rom 13:11 ... it is time for you to awake out of sleep: for now is salvation nearer to us than when we first believed.

Consistent with what he wrote to the Romans.

 

[samuel]

Is it not possible Paul was not speaking in terms of time, but that life is short.

 

[researcher]

I thinketh thee doth misunderstandeth.

1Co 7:29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short:

It's a short sentence! Not much to misunderstand!

The time was short for what? It's been 1900 years since he wrote it.

Obviously Paul was concerned about something enough to say "act as if you have no wives, don't rejoice, don't be sad."

 

[researcher]

Is it not possible Paul was not speaking in terms of time, but that life is short.

OK! I'm OK with that too.

In any event, he said, "act as if you weren't married."

Of course, he reiterates his "time is short" to the Romans also

Rom 13:11 And this, knowing the season, that already it is time for you to awake out of sleep:
for now is salvation nearer to us than when we first believed.

What salvation? They already got saved by believing in Jesus. :o

I guess there is a second step to salvation after believing in Jesus...

 

[samuel]

Well brother Matthew Henry sees it almost like I said. That the Christian must distance himself from the things of this world like wives, husbands, children, times of rejoicing over things in which we prosper, or not to grieve to much over things that don't work out.

Because we don't have any idea how long these things last, or how much time we have. And that we should devote ourselves to the Lord, as it were the last day.

 

[researcher]

Well brother Matthew Henry sees it almost like I said. That the Christian must distance himself from the things of this world like wives, husbands, children, times of rejoicing over things in which we prosper, or not to grieve to much over things that don't work out.

Because we don't have any idea how long these things last, or how much time we have. And that we should devote ourselves to the Lord, as it were the last day.

Rom 13:11 for now is salvation nearer to us than when we first believed.

salvation
G4991 - rescue, safety
from G4990 - a deliverer, God or Christ: - saviour.

for now is rescue nearer to us than when we first believed
for now is safety nearer to us than when we first believed
for now is deliverer nearer to us than when we first believed

What were they going to be rescued from? Paul got killed. No rescue except that he got to go be with the Lord.

 

[samuel]

Again now is the time of Salvation, awake out of your carnality and sin. For the day of the Lord grows nearer than before, and we no not the time.

That is the gist of what Matthew Henry had to say on that one.

 

[researcher]

Again now is the time of Salvation, awake out of your carnality and sin. For the day of the Lord grows nearer than before, and we no not the time.

That is the gist of what Matthew Henry had to say on that one.

Thank you. Although I was kind of hoping for your perspective.

Rom 13:11 And this, knowing the season, that already it is time for you to awake out of sleep: for now is salvation (rescue, safety, deliverer) nearer to us than when we first believed. (than when we believed. KJVR)


How much time did they think they had in the first place?

 

[samuel]

Well you, or they never know/knew.

What? is KJVR.

 

[samuel]

And this do, knowing the time, that it is already the hour for you to awaken from sleep; for now Salvation is nearer to us than when we believed. NASB

 

[researcher]

Well you, or they never know/knew.

What? is KJVR.

Lol. :D

KJVR is the King James Version Red Letter edition. Sorry, I thought it meant "revised" until I looked, lol. So, it's just the KJV, with red letters.

If something is closer to reaching me than I first expected, then, I must have expected it to reach me later than it's actually going to. :yes Thus Paul or they must have believed they had less time than originally expected.

 

[samuel]

Ok, KJVR = Red Letter, mine doesn't say that it only says KJV. But it has red letters. :yes

You can gather from several statements Paul made, he thought it was possible for the Lord to return in his lifetime.

 

[researcher]

Ok, KJVR = Red Letter, mine doesn't say that it only says KJV. But it has red letters. :yes

You can gather from several statements Paul made, he thought it was possible for the Lord to return in his lifetime.

So did he think he would come back in his lifetime, and then, for some reason, shorten that expectation? I.E. -Original message- "The Lord will come back shortly" -Revised message- "We have less time than we thought"

And who told him there was less time? Someone else? Why was he under this impression? :gah

P.S. I am using the free e-sword software Bible - http://www.e-sword.net/

 

[samuel]

I have several software Bibles, but I hate prolonged reading from the Computer. Actually it strains my eyes, and I am on my fifth pair of glasses, and with luck they will last me. That's why i refrain from reading long - long posts.

Well like us, I don't think Paul really knew. Form his statement on his departure, he a said it was better to be clothed (raptured), than unclothed. So it seems Paul had hopes of the Lords return, before his departure, I do also. :yes

 

[researcher]

I have several software Bibles, but I hate prolonged reading from the Computer. Actually it strains my eyes, and I am on my fifth pair of glasses, and with luck they will last me. That's why i refrain from reading long - long posts.

Well like us, I don't think Paul really knew. Form his statement on his departure, he a said it was better to be clothed (raptured), than unclothed. So it seems Paul had hopes of the Lords return, before his departure, I do also. :yes

:D OK, cool. I would say he had more than hopes, I would say he had some strong beliefs re. the second coming.

I would love to hear someone today say from the pulpit:
Jas 5:8 Be ye also patient; establish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord is at hand.
Jas 5:8 _You*_ also wait patiently. Establish [or, strengthen] your* hearts, because the Arrival of the Lord has drawn near. (Analytical/Literal Version)

Modern translation - "OK everyone, I want ya'll ta just chill and be cool, Jesus is coming back any time now! Anytime! Jus be cool and chill!"

Don't think I've ever heard a preacher say to a congregation "OK, I want everyone to be patient, the Lord is coming any second now."

I wonder if they told the people this in.. 500AD, or 800, or...

I think James 5:8 should be repeated in every church, every Sunday. I wonder what would happen. :ohwell

 

[samuel]

We know Paul had strong beliefs in the Lords return, but I don't think he knew when.

As for the other James 5:8, there would be a few that would sit still. The rest would be running home, to gather the things they wanted to take with them, or just plain running.

In all reality, Judging from the times, I really think it could be anytime now. I have studied pre-trib, pre-wrath, and all the rest of the opinions. But I think its better to leave like Jesus put it "immanent", you know not the day or the hour. :yes And make sure you are rapture ready, not rapture proof.

 

[researcher]

We know Paul had strong beliefs in the Lords return, but I don't think he knew when.

As for the other James 5:8, there would be a few that would sit still. The rest would be running home, to gather the things they wanted to take with them, or just plain running.

In all reality, Judging from the times, I really think it could be anytime now. I have studied pre-trib, pre-wrath, and all the rest of the opinions. But I think its better to leave like Jesus put it "immanent", you know not the day or the hour. :yes And make sure you are rapture ready, not rapture proof.

It's OK. I believed Jesus was coming back in my lifetime for 17 years. Now that i'm a bit more grown up and have studied more topics, I have come to believe that partial-preterism is the most logical conclusion. The Apostles weren't saying the Lord's return was imminent for no reason. They were saying it because he was actually coming back, and soon, as in, their time. :P Thus I believe we are at the end of the millennium.

Which is why I believe there are so many interpretations for what happened, and, what is going to happen. Everyone is scratching their heads trying to figure it out. And while that is happening, many interpret symbolic language as literal - thus the further confusion.

But, I'm only a recent convert to the notion, so, I won't have all of the answers. But, it's the most logical conclusion in my mind given all of the evidence.