[_ Old Earth _] Adam in light of evolution

[cupid dave]

There is no such statement, either explicit or implicit found in the World Almanac.

Of course I got the information from the Wrold Almanac.

But other siurces usually sum the Christians up into a dozen denominational mainstream churches as this source counts them out, too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_denomination

 

[Adam]

No, you didn't get any information about a New Jerusalem in America from the World Almanac.


And, no, other sources do not claim there are 12 major denominations.

The chart you posted is only about denominations within Protestantism and it enumerates 14 branches so in either regard it has nothing to do with your claim.

 

[cupid dave]

No, you didn't get any information about a New Jerusalem in America from the World Almanac.


And, no, other sources do not claim there are 12 major denominations.

The chart you posted is only about denominations within Protestantism and it enumerates 14 branches so in either regard it has nothing to do with your claim.

In spite that you have not checked the source, it ought not be so difficult for you to believe that the World Almanac enumerates a dozen "mainstream denominational christian churches" because you can see the tendency for other schools of thought on religion to so do, like the list above, of the Eleven Branches or Movements with in Protestantism, plus Catholicism.


The site that enumerates these 12 major divisions in the development and maturation of the very Cristianity which has unfolded, itself, which can be used to demonstrate this pattern, is significant in itself.
It shows that over time, a dynamic is at work.
Our innate different ways of perceiving ideas has been splitting our thinking on subjects like religion into fractions and predictable differences of opinion, marked by a tendency to splinter into the dozens and seven'eights as seen in what happened within Catholism.


The very point of Urim and Thummim is that it models this tendency in us to organize in this fashion.

Urim and Thummim is a geometric device that makes this claim concrete, i.e.; man is thinking at his best when he uses this same pattern of 12 and seven to cast over big ideas.

We see this tendency expressed again and again, everywhere, but in this case, other schools of though organize the idea of Christianity slightly differently, using other basic ways to differentiate the concept but still repeatedly, demonstrating the presence of this veil that man will, time and again, cast over the external world in order to understand it.

Here we see a book written by a writer who asks us to "Compare Twelve Major Denominations and their Beliefs."

 

[Adam]

I have checked the source.

The World Almanac makes no claim that there are but 12 major denominations, but declares that it has chosen to specifically focus on 12.


It's called "context," friend, and you should learn to not misuse it.


And, again, none of this is related to the urim and thummim.

 

[cupid dave]

I have checked the source.

The World Almanac makes no claim that there are but 12 major denominations, but declares that it has chosen to specifically focus on 12.


It's called "context," friend, and you should learn to not misuse it.


And, again, none of this is related to the urim and thummim.

I am holding the World Almanac in my hand here, so I know you are just wiggling wiggling as usual when shown to be wrong.

But regardless, I am going with the Catholic Encyclopedia on the present 11 Protestant Movements in the year 2000 PLUS thier own Catholiciam, which makes 12.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity

 

[Adam]

Excuse me for being under-impressed.

You can duct-tape it to your hind leg for all I care. It does not claim that there are 12 major denominations.


As far as the Catholic Encyclopedia is concerned:

1) Anabap
2) Pentacost
3) Adventist
4) Baptist
5) holiness movement
6)Reformed
7) Calvinist
8) Presbyterian
9) Congregationalist
10) Puritan
11) Methodist
12) Lutheran
13) Anglicans
14) Pietism

That's 14, not 11.


Neither one of these sources back your claim.

 

[cupid dave]

Excuse me for being under-impressed.

You can duct-tape it to your hind leg for all I care. It does not claim that there are 12 major denominations.


As far as the Catholic Encyclopedia is concerned:

1) Anabap
2) Pentacost
3) Adventist
4) Baptist
5) holiness movement
6)Reformed
7) Calvinist
8) Presbyterian
9) Congregationalist
10) Puritan
11) Methodist
12) Lutheran
13) Anglicans
14) Pietism

That's 14, not 11.


Neither one of these sources back your claim.

1) The Chart presented the history of the Protestant Movement concluding in th year 2000AD (as shown on the X-axis with the eleven (11) present movements,{/B] plus the 12th Catholic side of Christianity which represents about half of all the 2 Billion Christians today.

2) What the reader needs to bear in mind about this enumeration of the Christian church of today, in relationship to the predictions by Urim and Thummim, is that this is a pattern that man uses again and again, whenever he thinks about the external world.
Urim and Thummim is merely a graphic cubic representation of the consistent collection of information into rough sets of numerical groupings which correspond with the inordinate use of numbers like 3, 7, 12, etc utilized throughout scripture.


3) In 70 AD, when Judaism was converted to the Christianity that spread across the whole Roman World,.
We saw the New Jerusalem metaphysically appear in the geometry of that cube described in Rev 21:16.

This cube represented the Sukkah or booth which all true Jews are required to live in at least for seven days every year.
They did, the converts to Christianity as well as those in the diaspora.

4) But, after the 1000 years had passed, the seven headed beast rose again in the Renaissance which saw a return to the Pagan Roman and Greek Culture still with us today in the West.


5) Now, the church which fled Europe and arrived in safety of Religious Freedom in the wilderness which is America.
America has become center here, in the New World, with the twelve gates of the various established 21st century organizations as enumerated in the Chart found in the Catholic Encyclopedia
Here, in America, these twlve organizations now act as portals into the New Jerusalem centered in the USA, but by and large spread around the globe in twleve (12) major national centers:



• About 90 percent of Christians live in countries where Christians are inthe majority; only about 10 percent of Christians worldwide live as minorities.




• Although Christians comprise just under a third of theworld’s people, they form a majority of the population in 158 countries andterritories, about two-thirds of all the countries and territories in theworld.

http://www.christianmessenger.in/research-lists-top-10-countries-where-christians-live-in-large-numbers/


Top 10-12 Largest National Christian Populations

Rank
Nation
Number
Percent
1
USA
224,457,000
85%
2
Brazil
139,000,000
93%
3
Mexico
86,120,000
99%
4
Russia
80,000,000
60%
5
China
70,000,000
5.7%
6
Germany
67,000,000
83%
7
Philippines
63,470,000
93%
8
United Kingdom
51,060,000
88%
9
Italy
47,690,000
90%
10
France
44,150,000
98%
11
Nigeria
38,180,000
45%
12
Others


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http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_christian.html

 

[Adam]

1) The Chart presented the history of the Protestant Movement concluding in th year 2000AD (as shown on the X-axis with the eleven (11) present movements,{/B] plus the 12th Catholic side of Christianity which represents about half of all the 2 Billion Christians today.

Well, no, it actually doesn't, but even if it did you are ignoring that there are several other major denominations that exist besides Catholicism and Protestantism.

You are wrong two ways here.

2) What the reader needs to bear in mind about this enumeration of the Christian church of today, in relationship to the predictions by Urim and Thummim, is that this is a pattern that man uses again and again, whenever he thinks about the external world.
Urim and Thummim is merely a graphic cubic representation of the consistent collection of information into rough sets of numerical groupings which correspond with the inordinate use of numbers like 3, 7, 12, etc utilized throughout scripture.

Whatever you imagine the urim and thummim to be, there are no predictions regarding the number of major denominations. That is your assumption based on a numerological agenda you skewed from a single page in kaballistic literature, to which you have no understanding.

3) In 70 AD, when Judaism was converted to the Christianity that spread across the whole Roman World,.
We saw the New Jerusalem metaphysically appear in the geometry of that cube described in Rev 21:16.

History wasn't my major in college, but this is dead wrong.

4) But, after the 1000 years had passed, the seven headed beast rose again in the Renaissance which saw a return to the Pagan Roman and Greek Culture still with us today in the West.

Again, dead wrong.

5) Now, the church which fled Europe and arrived in safety of Religious Freedom in the wilderness which is America.
America has become center here, in the New World, with the twelve gates of the various established 21st century organizations as enumerated in the Chart found in the Catholic Encyclopedia
Here, in America, these twlve organizations now act as portals into the New Jerusalem centered in the USA, but by and large spread around the globe in twleve (12) major national centers:

Again, dead wrong.

 

[Adam]

Top 10-12 Largest National Christian Populations

Rank
Nation
Number
Percent
1
USA
224,457,000
85%
2
Brazil
139,000,000
93%
3
Mexico
86,120,000
99%
4
Russia
80,000,000
60%
5
China
70,000,000
5.7%
6
Germany
67,000,000
83%
7
Philippines
63,470,000
93%
8
United Kingdom
51,060,000
88%
9
Italy
47,690,000
90%
10
France
44,150,000
98%
11
Nigeria
38,180,000
45%
12
Others


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http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_christian.html

This is quite interesting.

It seems that there are no depths of deception you will go to in order to force this numerological agenda.


Why did you add "Others" to this list, if not to bring the number to 12?

It isn't given in the source you cited.


As well, the title "Top 10-12 Largest..." is not the name given in the source.



You are purposely altering your sources. You are making up evidence.

And the numbers given are not meaningful anyway.

While China is fifth in the quantity of Christians, compared with China's full population, Christians only comprise 5.7% And common knowledge informs us that Christians are not in the majority in China.



You've really only managed to lie and be found out. I would not be proud of myself if I were you.

 

[cupid dave]

Hmmm...

I checked back and the source seems to have altered the list which I had snipped as shown below.


http://www.christianmessenger.in/research-lists-top-10-countries-where-christians-live-in-large-numbers/


NEVERTHELESS,... the Title of the Chart specifies twelve (12) National Populations as you can see on the link or below, on the snip I had made


http://www.christianmessenger.in/research-lists-top-10-countries-where-christians-live-in-large-numbers/
.

And, of course, "other" national locations of Christians do exist so the list is comprehensive by including the 12th choice.

2) The link I provided previously was one of two related to this same chart.
Checking them, it is clear rhat the one lists and Titkes the list as 10-12 National Populations, whereas the other seems to have been changed to list only ten, omitting one or another of those 12.

But The pount still remains that the overview of Christianty time and again groups a dozen concepts together.
Ad tothis the fact that inside this Urim and Thummim there are seven other locations, analoh[gous to mentatl locations, when we add the thoughts about the seven Evangekaical Fundamentalists organizations iso active in the USA today.

Prophecy, by Urim and Thummim.
That is what we are doing here is using the suggested pattern of the Urim and Thummim to analyze Christianity and its membership, leading to that eight space of ecumnicalism predicted by this model.

Theistic Evolution will be the door that these churches MUST enter into for science and religion in America to support one another in the near future.

 

[Adam]

You are blatently lying.