all of man must worship something

[jasoncran]

we christians say that all men must worship something.

we are created to serve something, and right now my brain is well mail functioning as i cant recall any verses on that.

maybe it all those that the collective has assimulated.

i will look them up when i remember and feel free to post.

ah no man can serve to masters he muster mammon or rightessouness, and he that gathereth not with me is against me.

well those are a start.

 

[seekandlisten]

we christians say that all men must worship something.

we are created to serve something, and right now my brain is well mail functioning as i cant recall any verses on that.

maybe it all those that the collective has assimulated.

i will look them up when i remember and feel free to post.

ah no man can serve to masters he muster mammon or rightessouness, and he that gathereth not with me is against me.

well those are a start.

Interesting topic choice. I'm not sure where you want to go with this but I'll add the comment that I think part of the problem is too many people 'worshipping' before they get their so to speak. Salvation is a journey and we don't arrive until we stand before God 'naked'.

 

[jasoncran]

salvation is secured if one is a true believer, i think i read that last line is this that no one knows who is saved, but we can be assurred of salvation if we have repented and accept the work of the cross,

i was mainly want the aethists and agnostic to comment on this.

 

[AAA]

we christians say that all men must worship something.

What do you mean by 'worship'? Be as specific as you can.

 

[jasoncran]

we christians say that all men must worship something.

What do you mean by 'worship'? Be as specific as you can.

we must have something that we believe in whether it is object, an addiction , a hobby, or a cause, something that if we dont have in our lives that we feel incomplete.

 

[rEVOLVEr]

we christians say that all men must worship something.

What do you mean by 'worship'? Be as specific as you can.

we must have something that we believe in whether it is object, an addiction , a hobby, or a cause, something that if we dont have in our lives that we feel incomplete.

Hmmm.... Are you saying that if I'm a Pokemon collector or I'm a drug addict (BTW, I'm neither of the two) that would replace the need for religion?

 

[jasoncran]

What do you mean by 'worship'? Be as specific as you can.[/quote]
we must have something that we believe in whether it is object, an addiction , a hobby, or a cause, something that if we dont have in our lives that we feel incomplete.[/quote]

Hmmm.... Are you saying that if I'm a Pokemon collector or I'm a drug addict (BTW, I'm neither of the two) that would replace the need for religion?[/quote]
yes, that could be if they fill that need.

 

[rEVOLVEr]

What do you mean by 'worship'? Be as specific as you can.

we must have something that we believe in whether it is object, an addiction , a hobby, or a cause, something that if we dont have in our lives that we feel incomplete.[/quote]

Hmmm.... Are you saying that if I'm a Pokemon collector or I'm a drug addict (BTW, I'm neither of the two) that would replace the need for religion?[/quote]
yes, that could be if they fill that need.[/quote]

In that case, I also need an explanation about what to worship.

 

[jasoncran]

the lord.

those things, hobbies, and the family are ok, but must take second place to the lord.

i have put things before him, ie martial arts and tv shows.

 

[rEVOLVEr]

the lord.

those things, hobbies, and the family are ok, but must take second place to the lord.

i have put things before him, ie martial arts and tv shows.

You're confusing me. First I asked whether a hobby or addiction would replace the need for a religion. You answered Yes.
The I asked what to worship and you say "the Lord".
But if I have a hobby or an addiction, I don't need to worship anything, according to what you said first.

 

[jasoncran]

the lord.

those things, hobbies, and the family are ok, but must take second place to the lord.

i have put things before him, ie martial arts and tv shows.

You're confusing me. First I asked whether a hobby or addiction would replace the need for a religion. You answered Yes.
The I asked what to worship and you say "the Lord".
But if I have a hobby or an addiction, I don't need to worship anything, according to what you said first.

yes, the the fact that a hobby has come first to the lord is bad, though a hobby when it is in it proper place is ok.
we must put the lord first in all things, and those who dont will worship something in the Lord's place.

 

[JoJo]

I think ancient history demonstrates that we have a primal need to worship. Atheists have often presented long lists of gods in their arguments against Christianity. But the many various religions from ancient times to present should tell us that humans have an instinctive desire to worship a higher power.

 

[AAA]

I think ancient history demonstrates that we have a primal need to worship. Atheists have often presented long lists of gods in their arguments against Christianity. But the many various religions from ancient times to present should tell us that humans have an instinctive desire to worship a higher power.

Or a strong tendancy to deal with ignorance about their world by inventing agents to explain it. These agents are always incredibly human-like (or in the case of Christianity - human and deity), though they must be more powerful than mere humans because they must be powerful enough to explain the unexplained phenomena they are being invented to explain, like lightening, weather, fertility, sickness, consciousness, death, existence itself, etc.

These gods and the apparently supernaturally inspired books that tell us about them always display the petty imaginations of the people who undoubtedly invented them. Never is there anything really "divine" in them, never do they contain an idea that a human alive in the period in which they were written could not have thought up on his own. Instead, they sound just like all the other myths created by human minds.

There is an unbroken historical record replacing these ignorant solutions to our ignorance, these gods of the gaps, with real knowledge and real explanations.

It should be no wonder that believers continue to cite the remaining gaps in our knowledge as their "reasoning" for their belief.

 

[JoJo]

*sigh*