Angels are all obedient! + all of the prophets. 1 Cor. 14:32

[Elijah674]

The John of Rev. was absolutely awe struck, and knelt down to to the angel that showed him these things, and...

Rev. 22
[8] And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

[9] Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them [[which keep the sayings of this book: worship God]].

Fellow servant? and of thy brethrern the prophets? And they all keep the Eternal Law of God! +++ ANGELS! 1 Cor. 14:32 yes the Bible is 100% in UNITY! There surely is a lot on ERROR being taught for truth around here!

And why not? This is the transcript of the Lord [MAKEUP & CHARACTER!] 2 Cor. 3:3 yet recreated in the saints heart & Mind!

Oh! All except his 7th Day Sabbath, huh?

--Elijah

 

[Elijah674]

The John of Rev. was absolutely awe struck, and knelt down to to the angel that showed him these things, and...

Rev. 22
[8] And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

[9] Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them [[which keep the sayings of this book: worship God]].

Fellow servant? and of thy brethrern the prophets? And they all keep the Eternal Law of God! +++ ANGELS! 1 Cor. 14:32 yes the Bible is 100% in UNITY! There surely is a lot on ERROR being taught for truth around here!

And why not? This is the transcript of the Lord [MAKEUP & CHARACTER!] 2 Cor. 3:3 yet recreated in the saints heart & Mind!

Oh! All except his 7th Day Sabbath, huh?

--Elijah

Me again:
How about Eccl. 12:13-14 in prophecy and this man is a prophet!

 

[Sinthesis]

The John of Rev. was absolutely awe struck, and knelt down to to the angel that showed him these things, and...

Rev. 22
[8] And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

[9] Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them [[which keep the sayings of this book: worship God]].

Fellow servant? and of thy brethrern the prophets? And they all keep the Eternal Law of God! +++ ANGELS! 1 Cor. 14:32 yes the Bible is 100% in UNITY! There surely is a lot on ERROR being taught for truth around here!

And why not? This is the transcript of the Lord [MAKEUP & CHARACTER!] 2 Cor. 3:3 yet recreated in the saints heart & Mind!

Oh! All except his 7th Day Sabbath, huh?

--Elijah

Me again:
How about Eccl. 12:13-14 in prophecy and this man is a prophet!

Well there is some question as to whether Solomon should be considered a prophet. That said, in Eccl 12:13-14 we see that all works are to be judged, thus works can be either good or evil. The spirit in which any work is done is more important than the actual physical expression of the work. Two works may seem from outward appearances exactly the same, yet God with access to every secret thing about the works and workers can correctly judge motivation and assign value; whether the work will be counted as good or evil. Sabbath keeping, as a work, can be either good or evil depending on motivation, rather than physical expression. Christians keep the sabbath spiritually by accepting Jesus' gift of salvation. This frees us from bondage to Jewish laws that we may do His work of spreading the Gospel. If you want to observe the sabbath like Jews, say in remembrance of our religious heritage, then that is acceptable provided you aren't secretly trying to help Jesus save that which His blood has already saved.

 

[Elijah674]

The John of Rev. was absolutely awe struck, and knelt down to to the angel that showed him these things, and...

Rev. 22
[8] And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

[9] Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them [[which keep the sayings of this book: worship God]].

Fellow servant? and of thy brethrern the prophets? And they all keep the Eternal Law of God! +++ ANGELS! 1 Cor. 14:32 yes the Bible is 100% in UNITY! There surely is a lot on ERROR being taught for truth around here!

And why not? This is the transcript of the Lord [MAKEUP & CHARACTER!] 2 Cor. 3:3 yet recreated in the saints heart & Mind!

Oh! All except his 7th Day Sabbath, huh?

--Elijah

Me again:
How about Eccl. 12:13-14 in prophecy and this man is a prophet!

Well there is some question as to whether Solomon should be considered a prophet. That said, in Eccl 12:13-14 we see that all works are to be judged, thus works can be either good or evil. The spirit in which any work is done is more important than the actual physical expression of the work. Two works may seem from outward appearances exactly the same, yet God with access to every secret thing about the works and workers can correctly judge motivation and assign value; whether the work will be counted as good or evil. Sabbath keeping, as a work, can be either good or evil depending on motivation, rather than physical expression. Christians keep the sabbath spiritually by accepting Jesus' gift of salvation. This frees us from bondage to Jewish laws that we may do His work of spreading the Gospel. If you want to observe the sabbath like Jews, say in remembrance of our religious heritage, then that is acceptable provided you aren't secretly trying to help Jesus save that which His blood has already saved.

I see, your life does not obey the requirements, but your 'spirit does obey??? That sounds as the devil first lie?? (of Gen. 3:4 ) Yet, this is one of the two ways that satan will accomplish his work.

I suggest you need more study! And the WORK issue?? I keep the 7th Day Sabbath because I LOVE THE LORD!;)

--Elijah

 

[Sinthesis]

We in our sinful lives can't obey any requirements to the satisfaction of God. As sinners conceived in sin we aren't capable of fulfilling any requirements unto salvation, but Jesus has fulfilled all requirements for us. Once we accept that gift of Grace, we don't need to waste our lives trying to save ourselves through works, but can instead spend our lives following Jesus' two commandments; to love God and others. The particular ways we follow those two commandments in our lives are determined by the Holy Spirit in us. It is flexible, adaptable, living! Not rigid like laws written in stone. If you desire to show The Lord how much you love Him by keeping a seventh day sabbath to the best of your abilities, then by all means do so. But to insist that those who find other ways to serve our Lord are somehow deceived by satan is simply not true.

Col 2:13 - And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Col 2:14 - Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 - [And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 - Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:
Col 2:17 - Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [is] of Christ.
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[Elijah674]

We in our sinful lives can't obey any requirements to the satisfaction of God. As sinners conceived in sin we aren't capable of fulfilling any requirements unto salvation, but Jesus has fulfilled all requirements for us. Once we accept that gift of Grace, we don't need to waste our lives trying to save ourselves through works, but can instead spend our lives following Jesus' two commandments; to love God and others. The particular ways we follow those two commandments in our lives are determined by the Holy Spirit in us. It is flexible, adaptable, living! Not rigid like laws written in stone. If you desire to show The Lord how much you love Him by keeping a seventh day sabbath to the best of your abilities, then by all means do so. But to insist that those who find other ways to serve our Lord are somehow deceived by satan is simply not true.

Col 2:13 - And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Col 2:14 - Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 - [And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 - Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:
Col 2:17 - Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [is] of Christ.
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Hey I like you!;) But you still are not with it!
First: We do sin, (all of us) see 1 John 5:16-17 but look at verses of 1 John 5:18-19!

He has just told us that as we MATURE in Obedient faith that we will BECOME FULLY MATURE!

This is kind of deep, but if you will read Psalms 19:13 you might grasp the extent of what David documents there? He LOVES the Law of God (prior verses) and then he closes with PRESUMPTUOUS SINS.. also he says! When anyone breaks the Lords Eternal Covenant, if they are Born Again, they immediately know it! Presumptuous sin is doing the same 'SIN' over & over until the Holy Spirit can no longer reach us! And in the END that brings death! James 1:15

--Elijah

PS: And most all your other verses are about Moses penned law. (ordinances) Mostly from Deuteronomy 31:9-10 see even verses of Deuteronomy 31:25-26

 

[Elijah674]

I agree with Elijah on this. I can't really add anything to what he has said, he actually covered it well I think.

Hey guy I needed that!;) (just kidding with you, there are a lot & a lot of every thing.. Babylon'ish seen here! (New word!)
But it is nice to find one that understands maturity.

--Elijah

 

[Elijah674]

Isa. 42:21 is the way that God would 'magnify His Law'...

[19] Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the LORD's servant?
[20] Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not.
[21] The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

Just for starters: Did Christ tell one to leave the ox in the ditch until after sunset? Or was this what they all were hearing Christ saying in Matt.23:1-2...

[1] Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
[2] Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
[3] All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Well how did Christ MAGNIFY His Law??

And the sick one?? Did He say to leave him alone until after sunset?

Again if one will read the verses of Isa. 58 s-l-o-w-l-y and prayerfully & ‘see’ verses 12-14 ...

[12] And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, [[from doing thy pleasure on my holy day;]] and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
[14] Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Then we hear that Christ went through the corn field and picked enough corn for the whole week, huh?

No way, to magnify the Law was to do just that! His church were a bunch of LEGALISTS. Again Isa. 5 says it this way...

Isa.5
[1] Now will I sing to my wellbeloved a song of my beloved touching his vineyard. My wellbeloved hath a vineyard in a very fruitful hill:
[2] And he fenced it, and gathered out the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine, and built a tower in the midst of it, and also made a winepress therein: and he looked that it should bring forth grapes, and it brought forth wild grapes.
[3] And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, [[judge, I pray you, betwixt me and my vineyard]].
(and see who the choose in John 12:42-43)

[4] What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? wherefore, when I looked that it should bring forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes?

But the Problem was never with the doctrines! See verse 3 AGAIN!

The New Church of Acts held to the same doctrines as were taught by Christ here... BUT THEY HAD BOTH CHRIST AND HIS DOCTRINES!

That is how John DOCUMENTED the fact that of... 1 John 2:6-8

[6] He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
[7] Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
[8] Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
But some still are in darkness & do not see how the darkness is past?? As one Baptist minister put it... Dr. E.T. Hiscox, (report of his sermon at the Baptist Minister’s Convention)
’To me it seems unaccountable that Jesus, during three discussion with His disciples, often convening with them upon the Sabbath question, discussing it in some of its various aspects, freeing it from its false (Jewish traditional) glosses, never alluded to any transference o the day; also, that during the forty days of His resurrection life, no such thing was intimated. Nor, so far as we know, did the Spirit, which was given to bring to their remembrance all things whatsoever that He had said unto them, deal with this question. Nor yet did the inspired apostals, in their preaching the gospel, founding churches, counseling and instructing those founded, discuss the subject.’

--Elijah