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Angels are Corporeal, not spirits

Where is that stated in the Bible?


There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Genesis 6:4


  • There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men

The giants were produced WHEN the sons of God came into the daughters of men.

The giants were on the earth in the days of Noah WHEN the sons of God came into the daughters of men, AND ALSO AFTERWARD.


How much plainer can it possibly be?
 
There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Genesis 6:4


  • There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men

The giants were produced WHEN the sons of God came into the daughters of men.

The giants were on the earth in the days of Noah WHEN the sons of God came into the daughters of men, AND ALSO AFTERWARD.


How much plainer can it possibly be?
It’s the power of suggestion. See what’s not there.
 
It’s the power of suggestion. See what’s not there.

That's scripture, not suggestion.

It's simply a matter of reading comprehension.

There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Genesis 6:4

The giants were on the earth when the sons of God came into the daughters of men.

Either you understand what you are reading or you don't.
 
That's scripture, not suggestion.

It's simply a matter of reading comprehension.

There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Genesis 6:4

The giants were on the earth when the sons of God came into the daughters of men.

Either you understand what you are reading or you don't.
Some of us understand it means the giants were there both before and afterward. That they were mighty men, men of renown.
 
The thread title is so silly. No one has ever demonstrated or shown a "physical angel". It also makes no sense as physical creation did not exist until God started Creation Week. The Bible makes it clear that Angels existed before God started creating physical stuff.
There is no evidence Biblical or otherwise that the thread title is true.
it’s a strong delusion
Yeah like the strong delusion angels are physical. Tell me when you have encountered a physical angel, as opposed to one that simply took a physical form.
 
That's scripture, not suggestion.

It's simply a matter of reading comprehension.

There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Genesis 6:4

The giants were on the earth when the sons of God came into the daughters of men.

Either you understand what you are reading or you don't.
Even if the “giants” were the result of those marriages, it still refers to men taking women as wives.
 
Prior to The Fourth Lateran Council of 1215 AD, some in the church believed angels had corporeal nature suited to the heavenly realm, that they were not immaterial spirits.
Yeah and people believed in Gnosticism well before then, too. Were the gnostics right?
Define "corperal".
Scripture depicts them eating and drinking with Abraham, pulling Lot into the house and shuting the door, wrestling with Jacob who held the angel fast and would not release Him, sitting under a tree with Gideon, waking Peter up and helping him rise to his feet. Angels can be unwittingly entertained by humans who believe they are helping strangers.
That just proves they can take a physical FORM if they want to, if God allows them to. Next youll be telling me that constuction workers can only ever work in construction, that they can't, say, become firefighters or basket weavers.
Hebrews 1:14 "ministering spirits" does not contradict this, metaphorically angels function as "ministering spirits", its not a statement about their essence.
Why not? People have had dreams of Angels. Why are dreams needed, if these angels are supposedly physical? Right, nobody, NOBODY has touched a "physical angel". At the very most, it would be an angel THAT BECAME PHYSICAL.
God wouldn't have to "make them "spirits"
The verse says "winds". The NIV is inaccurate there.
if they already were, neither is He making them literal fire (Hebrews 1:7). This is metaphorical language describing them as swift and powerful, not defining their essence.
That probably describes their form. Even if not their essence or nature.
The theory they "materialize" physical forms to interact with humans isn't taught in scripture and in fact contradicts God alone kills and makes alive (Deut. 32:39) and that He alone has creative power (Neh. 9:6).
That's ridiculous. Theyre already "alive". Plus, they dont need to materialize a body themselves, mabye God does it For them. Or mabye they just become physical, no need for a "creation" of a "form".
Never does scripture depict angels or men changing their essence as they cross dimensions into the other realm.
And there is no evidence those angels were strictly physical.
Jacob saw angels climb down a ladder, Elijah crossed over in a chariot through a whirlwind, Moses and Elijah appeared on the Mount of Transfiguration when the Kingdom was present in power, John went through a door:
Ok..?
Christ said resurrected believers would be "equal to the angels" and as they will rise physically from the dead in "supernatural bodies" it follows angels also have corporeal nature that is "equal" to them.
Equal in what sense? There is nothing to indicate "equal" referring to physicality.
How do you know that "equal" isnt referring to a supernatural nature? We have souls you know.
Moreover, when Paul was discussing the various types of heaven bodies that exist, they were all physical "soma", not spirit "pneuma". The resurrection body is a body infused with spirit, not immaterial spirit. It is the same "physical body infused with spirit" that Christ has:
Verses?


Spirits don't get resurrected, physical bodies do.
Where do you see angels being "resurrected"??
For this reason Christians should not be surprised when Satan and his fallen angels appear in physically in a fleet of UFO ships. They use advanced technology to go from place to place. We see that in Ezekeil chapter 1, and scripture expressly declares the stars fought Sisera from heaven:
Evil forces can enter or exit the physical realm.
Ive never heard of "stars fighting Sisera".
Regardless how one interprets the symbolism, the angel of the LORD is depicted as seated in a craft that moves."
modern intrptation. how would the ancient people have seen it?
This is why UFOs do NOT prove ancient alien theory at all. Angels use advanced technology.
Or mabye they are simply beings in a realm higher than ours, and are much more powerful and capable.
When Satan and his angels appear on earth after Michael and his angels cast they out of heaven, it’s a strong delusion they are extraterrestrial beings, a Big Lie deception of epic proportions.
And i dont see how peddling the unorthodox idea that Angels and fallen ones are somehow physical is any better of a belief. All it does is sow division and nudge believers into stuff like Gnosticism.
 
Even if the “giants” were the result of those marriages, it still refers to men taking women as wives.

For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4-5


What was the sin the angels committed during the days of Noah?
 
For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4-5


What was the sin the angels committed during the days of Noah?
But angels refers to both mortal man and God’s immortal angels in heaven.
This is true in both the OT and NT
 
But angels refers to both mortal man and God’s immortal angels in heaven.
This is true in both the OT and NT

Please refer to what the scriptures say.

For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4-5

Plainly the scriptures say the angels who sinned during the days of Noah when God brought a flood upon the ungodly.


What was the sin the angels committed during the days of Noah?
 
For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 2 Peter 2:4-5


What was the sin the angels committed during the days of Noah?
According to Jesus, God’s angels in heaven never die. And since the wages of sin is death, the sinners of Gen 6 were mortal men.
And those sinners died in the flood. They’re in a watery grave till judgment day.
 
But angels refers to both mortal man and God’s immortal angels in heaven.
Where? And why? Why would the Bible use the word for "ANGELS" when there is already a word for "MEN"? God isn't the Author of CONFUSION.....

According to Jesus, God’s angels in heaven never die.
That's the ones who remained obedient. The fallen angels didnt need to "physically die", God could cast them 'to hell'.
And since the wages of sin is death, the sinners of Gen 6 were mortal men.
Clearly "the angels who sinned" and "the ancient world" are mentioned SEPERATELY, meaning NO, the term "angels" means ANGELS. Not HUMANS.

DISCUSSION QUESTION: Why are"angels" and "the ancient world" seperate, as opposed to being lumped together??
And those sinners died in the flood. They’re in a watery grave till judgment day.
I doubt anyone besides God knows what the environment of "the grave" is.
 
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