Angels are Physical Beings

[Alfred Persson]

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual (4152 πνευματικός pneumatikos)hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. (Eph. 6:12 NKJ)

The adjective “spiritual” is referring to the hosts just listed, not to “spiritual spirits”. The fallen angels and spirits in heavenly places who foment wickedness:

Spiritual [4152 πνευματικός pneumatikos ] hosts. The word “hosts” is not in the original. But the form of the word “spiritual” which is neuter plural, and the context show that some term of this kind must be supplied. The “spirituals,” against which the Church has to contend are principalities, powers and world-rulers, who form a host.—In the heavenly places. The location, the domain of the spiritual hosts of wickedness.-Horn, E. T., & Voigt, A. G. (1896). Annotations on the Epistles of Paul to the Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and Thessalonians: Vol. IX (H. E. Jacobs, Ed.; p. 111). The Christian Literature Co.

(Compare Eph. 1:21; 3:10; Col. 1:16; 2:10, 15)

We do not contend against “flesh and blood”, figurative for human beings (Mt. 16:17; Gal. 1:16), but against Satan’s fallen Angels and demonic spirits, Demons (δαιμονίων) and “spirits of demons” (πνεύματα δαιμονίων Rev. 16:14 BGT). The parallelism isn’t about flesh and blood, but “world rulers of this present darkness, and “the spiritual hosts of wickedness.” These operate in “heavenly places” directing this fallen world, angels and spirits inciting wickedness aka., the “mystery of lawlessness” spiritism (2 Thess. 2:7).

So corporeal fallen angels work with demonic spirits in “heavenly places” against mankind.

In Scripture Angels are physical not spirits. They appear as men and eat and drink:

1 Then the LORD appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day.
2 So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground,
3 and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant.
4 “Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree.
5 “And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.” They said, “Do as you have said.”
6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah and said, “Quickly, make ready three measures of fine meal; knead it and make cakes.”
7 And Abraham ran to the herd, took a tender and good calf, gave it to a young man, and he hastened to prepare it.
8 So he took butter and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree as they ate. (Gen. 18:1-8 NKJ)

The unscriptural speculation biblical angels materialize physical forms to be physical in our realm is a massive violation of Occam’s Razor, the work product of the Catholic Magisterium which ruled against their corporeality during the Fourth Lateran Council. Surprisingly, their hasty generalization fallacy is faithfully followed by Protestants to this day, which is why the “strong delusion” will be so compelling to the End-Time generation.

To manifest corporeal forms as the theory claims angels must have creative power to kill and make alive that scripture reserves for God alone (Deut. 32:39). A fantastical and bizarre theory, it clearly was plucked “out of the air” because nothing in scripture remotely suggests a “materialization process” when angels appear in our realm. They appear fully physical (Jdg. 6:11) while transiting the Multiverse (1 Cor. 13:10), entering our realm through an “opening” or “portal” (Mk. 9:1-7; Gen. 28:12; 2 Ki. 2:11; Ezek. 1:1; Joh. 1:51; Ac. 7:56; Rev. 4:1; 19:11) without a hint of any materialization process.

Support for the error is found by likening angels to God (Isa. 40:25; 46:5) claiming “just as a theophany does not presuppose God’s corporeality, neither does an angelophany.” That is circular however, angelophany is both the conclusion and premise. It is not an angelophany any more than our appearance in a room is a humanophany. Hence, when the resurrected Jesus ἔστη ἐν μέσῳ αὐτῶν (Lk. 24:36) “stood in their midst” He didn’t materialze a body to do this. He proved it was the same body by showing the imprint of the nails in hands and feet (Lk. 24:40). If these were “materialized wounds” in a materialized body then Jesus deceived them it was the same body He was crucified in, clearly an impossible proposition. Our LORD is not a deceiver.

Others claim our LORD ruled out corporeality when He said angels do not marry (Mt. 22:30; Mk. 12:25). But Jesus was not contradicting scripture (2 Pt. 2:4; Jude 1:6; Gen. 6:2, 4), neither do elect angels (1 Tim. 5:21) sin but that is a function of will, not nature.

The hasty generalization confusing corporeal angels in heaven (Rev. 12:7-9) with spirits of disembodied demons (“spirits of demons” πνεύματα δαιμονων Rev. 16:14 compare Acts 23:8) who desperately seek a semblance of corporeality (cp. 2 Cor. 5:3) possessing insects (Mt. 12:24) animals (Mk. 5:12-13) and men (Mt. 8:16) after dying physically in the flood (Gen. 7:21-23), has made the church more likely to believe the “strong delusion” the returning Nephilim (Gen. 6:4; Rev. 12:4, 7-9) are the Elohim Designers of life. When they arrive in a fleet of ships, the entire earth will fall away from belief in God (2 Thess. 2:3-4).

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[for_his_glory]

Angels are essentially “ministering spirits,” (Hebrews 1:14) and do not have physical bodies like humans. Jesus declared that “a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have” (Luke 24:37-39).

The Bible classifies some angels as “elect” (1 Timothy 5:21) or “holy” (Matthew 25:31; Mark 8:38). All angels were created to be holy, enjoying the presence of God (Matthew 18:10) and the beauty of heaven (Mark 13:32).

Other angels oppose God under the leadership of Satan (Isaiah 14:12-20) whom even Satan is a created spirit of God that is why God could never destroy him because a spirit can not die. (Matthew 25:41; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1: 6; Ephesians 6:12). We often call these types of angels demons for which an everlasting fire is prepared by God for these angels.

Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of ministry. Angels also express emotions (Luke 15:10), are wise (2 Samuel 14:20) and powerful (Psalms 103:20).

The unnamed angels who appear most often in Scripture carry out a variety of tasks—all designed to serve God…

Worship and praise - This is the main activity portrayed in heaven (Isaiah 6:1-3; Revelation 4-5).

Revealing - They serve as messengers to communicate God's will to men. They helped reveal the law to Moses (Acts 7:52-53), and served as the carriers of much of the material in Daniel, and Revelation.

Guiding - Angels gave instructions to Joseph about the birth of Jesus (Matthew 1-2), to the women at the tomb, to Philip (Acts 8:26), and to Cornelius (Acts 10:1-8).

Providing - God has used angels to provide physical needs such as food for Hagar (Genesis 21:17-20), Elijah (1 Kings 19:6), and Christ after His temptation (Matthew 4:11).

Protecting - Keeping God's people out of physical danger, as in the cases of Daniel and the lions, and his three friends in the fiery furnace (Daniel 3 and 6).

Delivering - Getting God's people out of danger once they're in it. Angels released the apostles from prison in Acts 5, and repeated the process for Peter in Acts 12.

Strengthening and encouraging - Angels strengthened Jesus after His temptation (Matt 4:11), encouraged the apostles to keep preaching after releasing them from prison (Acts 5:19-20), and told Paul that everyone on his ship would survive the impending shipwreck (Acts 27:23-25).

Answering prayer - God often uses angels as His means of answering the prayers of His people (Daniel 9:20-24; 10:10-12; Acts 12:1-17).

Caring for believers at the moment of death - In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, we read that angels carried the spirit of Lazarus to “Abraham's bosom” when he died (Luke 16:22).



You never know when and where an angel of God will show up and as Hebrews 13:2 says be careful for you never know when you are entertaining angels unaware.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Angels are essentially “ministering spirits,” (Hebrews 1:14) and do not have physical bodies like humans.

The hapax legomen λειτουργικὰ πνεύματα "ministering spirits" in Hebrews 1:14 does not contradict angels are physical because angelic nature is not being discussed----their subordination to the Son is the topic.

"Ministering spirits" is figurative, referring back to Heb. 1:7

And of the angels He says: "Who makes His angels spirits And His ministers a flame of fire." (Heb. 1:7 NKJ)

If angels were spirits God would not have to "make His angels spirits."

This is figurative meaning:

Who makes his angels fast as the wind,
And His ministers as terrible as consuming fire to all who oppose God


Hebrews 1:7 is being used in synecdoche in Hebrews 1:14 , the part referring the whole conveying Angels are "fast as the wind, terrible as a consuming fire when protecting God's people ministering to the heirs of salvation."

 

[for_his_glory]

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual (4152 πνευματικός pneumatikos)hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. (Eph. 6:12 NKJ)

The adjective “spiritual” is referring to the hosts just listed, not to “spiritual spirits”. The fallen angels and spirits in heavenly places who foment wickedness:


(Compare Eph. 1:21; 3:10; Col. 1:16; 2:10, 15)

We do not contend against “flesh and blood”, figurative for human beings (Mt. 16:17; Gal. 1:16), but against Satan’s fallen Angels and demonic spirits, Demons (δαιμονίων) and “spirits of demons” (πνεύματα δαιμονίων Rev. 16:14 BGT). The parallelism isn’t about flesh and blood, but “world rulers of this present darkness, and “the spiritual hosts of wickedness.” These operate in “heavenly places” directing this fallen world, angels and spirits inciting wickedness aka., the “mystery of lawlessness” spiritism (2 Thess. 2:7).

So corporeal fallen angels work with demonic spirits in “heavenly places” against mankind.

In Scripture Angels are physical not spirits. They appear as men and eat and drink:


The unscriptural speculation biblical angels materialize physical forms to be physical in our realm is a massive violation of Occam’s Razor, the work product of the Catholic Magisterium which ruled against their corporeality during the Fourth Lateran Council. Surprisingly, their hasty generalization fallacy is faithfully followed by Protestants to this day, which is why the “strong delusion” will be so compelling to the End-Time generation.

To manifest corporeal forms as the theory claims angels must have creative power to kill and make alive that scripture reserves for God alone (Deut. 32:39). A fantastical and bizarre theory, it clearly was plucked “out of the air” because nothing in scripture remotely suggests a “materialization process” when angels appear in our realm. They appear fully physical (Jdg. 6:11) while transiting the Multiverse (1 Cor. 13:10), entering our realm through an “opening” or “portal” (Mk. 9:1-7; Gen. 28:12; 2 Ki. 2:11; Ezek. 1:1; Joh. 1:51; Ac. 7:56; Rev. 4:1; 19:11) without a hint of any materialization process.

Support for the error is found by likening angels to God (Isa. 40:25; 46:5) claiming “just as a theophany does not presuppose God’s corporeality, neither does an angelophany.” That is circular however, angelophany is both the conclusion and premise. It is not an angelophany any more than our appearance in a room is a humanophany. Hence, when the resurrected Jesus ἔστη ἐν μέσῳ αὐτῶν (Lk. 24:36) “stood in their midst” He didn’t materialze a body to do this. He proved it was the same body by showing the imprint of the nails in hands and feet (Lk. 24:40). If these were “materialized wounds” in a materialized body then Jesus deceived them it was the same body He was crucified in, clearly an impossible proposition. Our LORD is not a deceiver.

Others claim our LORD ruled out corporeality when He said angels do not marry (Mt. 22:30; Mk. 12:25). But Jesus was not contradicting scripture (2 Pt. 2:4; Jude 1:6; Gen. 6:2, 4), neither do elect angels (1 Tim. 5:21) sin but that is a function of will, not nature.

The hasty generalization confusing corporeal angels in heaven (Rev. 12:7-9) with spirits of disembodied demons (“spirits of demons” πνεύματα δαιμονων Rev. 16:14 compare Acts 23:8) who desperately seek a semblance of corporeality (cp. 2 Cor. 5:3) possessing insects (Mt. 12:24) animals (Mk. 5:12-13) and men (Mt. 8:16) after dying physically in the flood (Gen. 7:21-23), has made the church more likely to believe the “strong delusion” the returning Nephilim (Gen. 6:4; Rev. 12:4, 7-9) are the Elohim Designers of life. When they arrive in a fleet of ships, the entire earth will fall away from belief in God (2 Thess. 2:3-4).

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How do you explain the difference between fallen angels and demonic spirits according to scripture?

 

[Alfred Persson]

How do you explain the difference between fallen angels and demonic spirits according to scripture?

The hasty generalization confusing corporeal angels in heaven (Rev. 12:7-9) with spirits of disembodied demons (“spirits of demons” πνεύματα δαιμονων Rev. 16:14 compare Acts 23:8) who desperately seek a semblance of corporeality (cp. 2 Cor. 5:3) possessing insects (Mt. 12:24) animals (Mk. 5:12-13) and men (Mt. 8:16) after dying physically in the flood (Gen. 7:21-23), has made the church more likely to believe the “strong delusion” the returning Nephilim (Gen. 6:4; Rev. 12:4, 7-9) are the Elohim Designers of life. When they arrive in a fleet of ships, the entire earth will fall away from belief in God (2 Thess. 2:3-4).

The spirits of Angels who defiled the image of God in man via sexual relations (1 Cor.. 3:17) were denied re-entry into the TELEIOS (heaven) and died in the Flood of Noah’s day (Gen. 7:21-23). Their spirits were imprisoned either in “Tartarus” for the “sons of God” (2 Pet. 2:4) or the Abyss (Lk. 8:31; Rev. 9:1-2, 11) for the Nephilim demons. Similarly, the hybrid “angel human” spirits of the “men of renown” possibly called “Titans” in Greek Myth. These were segregated from each other according to whether they were evil or not. Those who had not defiled God’s image but were evil joined the incorporeal spirits of demons to roam the earth as unclean spirits. But those who were righteous but refused to believe Noah’s preaching God would forgive their “Frankenstein nature”, were imprisoned separately from the “sons of God” angels cast into Tartarus, or the Demon Nephilim Fallen Ones cast into torment in the Abyss. Christ preached salvation to these hybrid “spirits in prison” before His resurrection (1 Pet. 3:18-22) and all who believed now “live according to God in the Spirit” (1 Pet. 4:6) eagerly waiting for the return of Christ joining their human counterparts who repented and believed after physical death (Heb. 9:27-28).

Unclean demons and spirits wandering the earth (Isa. 34:11; Jer. 50:37; Rev. 18:2) are not to be confused with corporeal demons still physical in heaven (Rev. 12:7-9). Both the apostle Paul and Pharisees distinguished incorporeal spirits from angels (Acts 23:8). The hapax legomenon in Heb. 1:14 does not contradict this, in context that is a discussion of their position and function (Heb. 1:7), not nature.

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The Nephilim: Satan's Fallen Angels 1 Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3 Then the LORD said,

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[for_his_glory]

Nephilim has been traditionally taught, to be angels who came down and procreated with women by marrying and having children with them.

Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of God's ministry.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The way I read this verse is that there were giants in the earth in those days before the flood and also after the flood when the sons of God (Godly line of Seth named in Genesis 5) all had sons and daughters, but not all of these sons and daughters obeyed God and fell away from Him. Let's not forget the unGodly line of Cain that some of these sons and daughters might have married into Cain's line and came in unto the daughters of men and they bare children to them. Some had the hereditary autosomal dominant pituitary gene such as AIP that produces Nephilim/giants as they became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. This gene had to start with Adam to present day as we see anyone being over seven feet being called a giant as they tower over others.

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance - Nephilim
Part of Speech: noun masculine
Transliteration: Nephilim
Phonetic Spelling : nef-eel
Definition: "giants", name of two people, one before the flood and one after the flood

By this definition these angels would have to have come down two different times to marry the daughters of men. Once before the flood and again after the flood, but we only find this one time in Genesis 6:1, 2.

There is no such thing as a half angel, half human hybrid called Giants. Nephilim is just a name given to giants that we read about in scripture and even those that are living today being over 6 feet and taller.

Rephaim - race of giants Genesis 14:5-7; Deuteronomy 3:11-13; 2 Samuel 21:16-20, Og the king of Bashan was the last of the Rephaim
Anakim - race of giants Numbers 13:33; Deuteronomy 2:10; 9:2 Anak son of Arba Joshua 15:13 descendent of Canaan, son of Ham
Emim - the proud deserters, terrors, race of giants Genesis 14:5-7; Genesis, 19:37; Deuteronomy 2:10, 11 descendants of Canaan, son of Ham
Zuzim/Zamzummims the evil ones, roaming things Genesis 14:5-7, 19:38 Deuteronomy 2:20 descendants of Canaan, son of Ham

It's just like the name Lucifer/Satan/prince of darkness/Beelzebub/father of lies and many more names given to this fallen angel. Satan is nothing more than a fallen angel that goes to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it as he still has access to the throne room of God as he stands accusing the brethren as Jesus sits and makes intercession for us. Satan is the opposite of God's goodness as his evil hierarchy includes the third of the angels that have followed after him as he sends them throughout the earth for his destructive purpose in man, 1 Peter 5:8.

 

[for_his_glory]

The term demon comes from the Greek "daimon". Demons (fallen angels) are also called evil spirits, unclean spirits and devils in scripture as they are disembodied spirits as angels have no form. The use of the terminology of demons, evil spirits, unclean spirits and devils are interchangeable in scripture as they all mean the same thing. They exist in a demonic realm as principalities, Romans 8:38, 39; Ephesians 6:12, and have a hierarchy of rulership controlled by Satan as being his messengers, Matthew 12:22-30; Mark 3:22; Luke 4:35. They have no physical form, but can viciously posses a body, Matthew 8:16-31; 12:43-45. Demons are numerous in numbering and can also speak like the Legion of unclean spirits in Mark 5:9.

Strong's Concordance: Demon
Part of speech: noun masculine
Transliteration: daimon
Definition: a demon
Usage: evil spirit, demon

 

[Alfred Persson]

Angels have no gender (Matthew 22:30) and are innumerable (Hebrews 12:22). They are incarnate in human form at times (Genesis 18:2-8) for the purpose of God's ministry.

That is incorrect, Jude says the "angels that sinned" (2 Pet. 2:4) went after "strange flesh", analogous to beastality:

6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 1:6-7 NKJ)

Christ didn't contradict that, when He said "Angels neither marry or are given in marriage" He was talking about Elect angels, not fallen angels who rebelled against God and "gone after strange flesh."

Elect angels don't marry or have sex with humans, Satan's angels do.

Angels have gender, "sons (01121 בֵּן ben) of God" are males, and usually its male angels who appear.

But Zechariah 5:9 opens the possibility female angels exist, so does the female demon "Lilith" (03917 לִילִית liyliyth) in Isaiah 34:14, translated as "night creature" in the NKJV. A Female angel named "repentance" is found in the Jewish Pseudepigrapha Joseph and Aseneth 15:7-8.


I don't follow any particular tradition on this, I did my own research and conclude the "Watchers" (sons of God) were angels God sent to counter Satan's Angels on earth, called the "Nephilim."

After God cast Adam and Eve from the garden and forbade access to the "tree of life", man sought a "work around" God's forbidding them immortality.

Because the Nephilim were "fallen" and their hybrid angel-human children were not immortal, Satan was able to deceive mankind "if unfallen sons of God sired children they would be immortal".

So men conspired with Satan's Nephilim to seduce the "sons of God" with their beautiful daughters. That is why the Nephilim are mentioned in Gen. 6:4 first, they were instrumental in the "seduction" of the "sons of God", openly having sex with humans before the eyes of the "Watchers", it was like watching porn 24/7.

Eventually they sinned.

But the Nephilim (fallen ones) are contemporaries of the "sons of God", notice they appear on earth first then the sinning sons of God, "and also after this":

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weḡǎmʹ​		ʾǎ·ḥǎrê-ḵēnʹ​
and · also​		after · thus​
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The Nephilim were on the earth in those days (and also after this) when the sons of God were having sexual relations with the daughters of humankind, who gave birth to their children. They were the mighty heroes of old, the famous men. (Gen. 6:1-4 NET)


As for incarnating materialized bodies, that is speculative nonsense. That would give angels the power of creation that scripture reserves for God alone:

`Now see that I, even I, am He, And there is no God besides Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand. (Deut. 32:39 NKJ)

Just as Elijah (2 Ki. 2:11), Moses (Mark 9:5) and Christ (Acts 1:9) are physical in heaven, so are angels.

According to Revelation 16:14 Demon spirits can exist separate from their bodies, "spirits of demons" (πνεύματα δαιμονίων ).

That's where the unclean spirits who possess insects, animals and men, came from.

The Nephilim and the evil offspring of angels died physically in the flood (Gen. 7:21-23). They became the demons and unclean spirits that now wander the earth desperately seeking some semblance of the corporeality they lost (cp. 2 Cor. 5:4).

As for the sinning sons of God, they died physically and their spirits went to Tartarus for a special judgement.

For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell (5020 ταρταρόω tartaroo) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; (2 Pet. 2:4 NKJ)

But they are not to be confused with Satan's angels still corporeal in heavenly places, whom Michael will kick out of heaven in the End Time:

7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought,
8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Rev. 12:7-9 NKJ)

After being cast out they will disguise themselves as a "friendly Extraterrestrial race" under the Dragon Commander Satan. They will claim to be the "designers of life" on earth who return to save their creation from an extinction level event. That strong delusion will cause a massive falling away from all called God or worshiped.

3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.
7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. (2 Thess. 2:3-10 NKJ)

The Holy Spirit was restraining spiritism in Paul's day, the spurious lies coming from "spirit…word or by letter as if from us".

In the End Time God stops restraining them, and they will walk among us just as Satan and his Nephilim did in Noah's Day.

This adds a dimension to the words of Christ, that PERHAPS angel-human marriages will again be happening in the end time:

26 "And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:
27 "They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. (Lk. 17:26-27 NKJ)

However, that may not be in Christ's words at all, that it strictly refers to human marriages is more likely.

 

[Alfred Persson]

7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought,
8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Rev. 12:7-9 NKJ)

After being cast out they will disguise themselves as a "friendly Extraterrestrial race" under the Dragon Commander Satan. They will claim to be the "designers of life" on earth who return to save their creation from an extinction level event. That strong delusion will cause a massive falling away from all called God or worshiped.

Also Biblical revelation implies this will all be done "in the open" with full knowledge Satan and Demons have returned to earth, and Adonikam is the Beast prophesied to come. They will revel in it. 666 will become like the Swastika was in Nazi Germany, it will be everywhere. That is why the penalty for accepting the Mark of the Beast is so severe, everyone who accepts it will rejoice they are fighting against Yahweh God and Jesus Christ our LORD in particular:

9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 "he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
11 "And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." (Rev. 14:9-11 NKJ)

That is why this is worded as it is:
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. (2 Thess. 2:3-4 NKJ)

By defining Yahweh God as the leader of an extraterrestrial race who jealously denied mankind technological advancement and immortality, the classic definition of God is thus opposed. Adonikam then claims his hybrid "elohim-human" nature is above that of all extraterrestrials, and that is how he exalts himself above all historically called God or worshiped.


By this lie the Beast hopes to change "times and law" upon which human society historically been predicated upon, God's authority.

He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time. (Dan. 7:25 NKJ)

Most Christians miss this aspect of the coming "Man of Sin", he starts out as a Miracle working False Christ, but after 3.5 years, morphs into the "Son of Destruction" literal seed of Satan (Gen. 3:15) and reveals he is working against the God of the Bible. He convinces mankind that collectively they can defeat God at Armageddon.

The flying frogs symbolizes the UFO "strong delusion" that "God sends"(2 Thes. 2:11-12) when He stops restraining the spiritism that inspires the world to fight God at Armageddon:

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 "Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."
16 And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.
(Rev. 16:13-16 NKJ)

 

[Alfred Persson]

The term demon comes from the Greek "daimon". Demons (fallen angels) are also called evil spirits, unclean spirits and devils in scripture as they are disembodied spirits as angels have no form. The use of the terminology of demons, evil spirits, unclean spirits and devils are interchangeable in scripture as they all mean the same thing. They exist in a demonic realm as principalities, Romans 8:38, 39; Ephesians 6:12, and have a hierarchy of rulership controlled by Satan as being his messengers, Matthew 12:22-30; Mark 3:22; Luke 4:35. They have no physical form, but can viciously posses a body, Matthew 8:16-31; 12:43-45. Demons are numerous in numbering and can also speak like the Legion of unclean spirits in Mark 5:9.

Strong's Concordance: Demon
Part of speech: noun masculine
Transliteration: daimon
Definition: a demon
Usage: evil spirit, demon

Circular, begs the question. You begin assuming Demons=fallen angels, but offer no proof that is scriptural.

There are two explicit scriptures proving corporeal and incorporeal demons are not the same thing:

"Spirit OR an angel" meaning they are not the same:
Then there arose a loud outcry. And the scribes of the Pharisees' party arose and protested, saying, "We find no evil in this man; but if a spirit or an angel has spoken to him, let us not fight against God." (Acts 23:9 NKJ)

"Spirits OF demons" πνεύματα δαιμονίων meaning the incorporeal spirits of corporeal demons:
For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. (Rev. 16:14 NKJ)

These demons rose out of the Abyss they were cast into during the Flood of Noah's Day:

NKJ Revelation 9:1 Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit.
3 Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 They were commanded not to harm the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.
5 And they were not given authority to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it strikes a man.
6 In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.
7 The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. On their heads were crowns of something like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men.
8 They had hair like women's hair, and their teeth were like lions' teeth.
9 And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots with many horses running into battle.
10 They had tails like scorpions, and there were stings in their tails. Their power was to hurt men five months.
11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon. (Rev. 9:1-11 NKJ)

John can barely see these ghostly locusts because they are spirits of demons. That is why he can't describe them precisely, "like horses"...."something like gold"...."like the faces of men"....

He can't see them clearly, so everything is "like" something.

That contrasts with the demon horsemen, he has no problem seeing them because they are corporeal, Satan's Nephilim army who enter our realm through the "boundary of scriptural Israel", from the east (sunrising) when the angels are unbound at the Euphrates:

14 saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, "Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates."
15 So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind.
16 Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them.
17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.
18 By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed-- by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents, having heads; and with them they do harm.
(Rev. 9:14-19 NKJ)

 

[for_his_glory]

I gave my explanations with scripture. Do you believe since God created everything, including the angels before He created the heavens and the earth that He would also create demons?

 

[Alfred Persson]

I gave my explanations with scripture. Do you believe since God created everything, including the angels before He created the heavens and the earth that He would also create demons?

No, God created the angels with free will, and because it was truly free will it follows some would make the wrong choice.

“The anointed cherub” who walked among the fiery stones became the evil serpent the Devil (Gen. 3:1). Lucifer’s pride caused his fall into evil:

12 “How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart: `I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. (Isa. 14:12-15 NKJ)
“…not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil.” (1 Tim. 3:6 NKJ)
14 “You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.
15 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.
(Ezek. 28:14-15 NKJ) 14 “You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.
15 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.
16 “By the abundance of your trading You became filled with violence within, And you sinned; Therefore I cast you as a profane thing Out of the mountain of God; And I destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the fiery stones. (Ezek. 28:14-16 NKJ)

A Cherub is more powerful than an angel, four cherubs guard the throne of God (Rev. 4:6-9; cf. Ezek. 1:5-14; Ex. 25:18-20; Heb. 9:5; Gen. 3:24).

Lucifer believed an error existed in God’s thinking, an imperfection that would compel God disqualify Himself from reigning as God, for then He failed His own criteria that He knows the future perfectly:

9 Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me,
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done, Saying, `My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure…'(Isa. 46:9-10 NKJ)

Satan makes his case to the heavenly court: “God’s pronouncement that Job is blameless and upright can be proven wrong”:

6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.
7 And the LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?” So Satan answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”
8 Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil?”
9 So Satan answered the LORD and said, “Does Job fear God for nothing?
10 “Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land.
11 “But now, stretch out Your hand and touch all that he has, and he will surely curse You to Your face!”
12 And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your power; only do not lay a hand on his person.” So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD. (Job 1:6-12 NKJ)

As Job did not curse God Satan lost this argument.

But its foundational premise “unselfish love does not exist” still stood. The argument creatures love God only for selfish reasons was so powerful, a third of heavens angels joined Satan’s rebellion (Rev. 12:3-4).

Psychologically, this failure to see truth results from “confirmation bias”.

Just as a thief believes everyone is a thief, so selfish angels believed everyone selfish.

Satan and followers claimed God erred creating intelligent life with truly free will expecting they would unselfishly choose to return His love for them, because of who He is, Wonderful in every way (Jdg. 13:18; Ps. 40:5; 119:29-31; Is. 28:29).

So certain of the selfish motives of others, they “bet the farm” believing Satan could not lose the case:

“God must recuse Himself”, they reasoned, “everyone is just like us, they love God only for selfish reasons, which means creating them is God’s biggest mistake, He will never obtain the unselfish fellowship of free will creatures.

Therefore, God must recuse Himself from being God and permit we live our selfish evil lives anywhere we want, including earth itself where the women are beautiful (Gen. 6:2, 4).”

“Does true love exist?” Can people love the Father without selfish motive? How could that be proved to the Heavenly Court beyond any possible doubt?

4 Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others.
5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Phil. 2:4-11 NKJ)

In an act of unselfish love for the Father and His fellow man, God the eternal Son emptied Himself of His prerogatives as God making Himself of no reputation choosing to live as a man obediently even to the death of the cross. Therefore, neither Satan or his angels can say “Jesus Christ came in the flesh”, they choke on the words:

2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. (1 Jn. 4:2-3 NKJ)

It was the Incarnation that proves true love exists, refuting Satan’s argument for all eternity. Not only is the Father loved by God the Son, but also by Jesus the man, even though it cost him a horrible death on the cross. God’s true love for man was also proved (John 3:15), not only the Father’s love, but also that of the Son (Is. 53:1-12). Thus Satan is proven wrong four ways, and it was Christ’s coming in the flesh that sealed Satan’s doom and every angel and spirit following him. Therefore, none of them can say “Jesus Christ has come in the flesh” (1 John 4:2-3), for the words recall the terror of the LORD that awaits them for losing their case; that terrifies them beyond rational thought.

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[Alfred Persson]

Lucifer believed an error existed in God’s thinking, an imperfection that would compel God disqualify Himself from reigning as God, for then He failed His own criteria that He knows the future perfectly:


Satan makes his case to the heavenly court: “God’s pronouncement that Job is blameless and upright can be proven wrong”:


As Job did not curse God Satan lost this argument.

But its foundational premise “unselfish love does not exist” still stood. The argument creatures love God only for selfish reasons was so powerful, a third of heavens angels joined Satan’s rebellion (Rev. 12:3-4).

Psychologically, this failure to see truth results from “confirmation bias”.

Just as a thief believes everyone is a thief, so selfish angels believed everyone selfish.

Satan and followers claimed God erred creating intelligent life with truly free will expecting they would unselfishly choose to return His love for them, because of who He is, Wonderful in every way (Jdg. 13:18; Ps. 40:5; 119:29-31; Is. 28:29).

So certain of the selfish motives of others, they “bet the farm” believing Satan could not lose the case:

“God must recuse Himself”, they reasoned, “everyone is just like us, they love God only for selfish reasons, which means creating them is God’s biggest mistake, He will never obtain the unselfish fellowship of free will creatures.

Therefore, God must recuse Himself from being God and permit we live our selfish evil lives anywhere we want, including earth itself where the women are beautiful (Gen. 6:2, 4).”

Consider the genius of allowing free will creatures reveal themselves; their evil motives that cause them to separate themselves from God and then gather in one place (Armageddon), to make easy their destruction. Is not the genius of God evident in all His works?


Who shall not fear You, O Lord, and glorify Your name? For You alone are holy. For all nations shall come and worship before You, For Your judgments have been manifested." (Rev. 15:4 NKJ)

Hallelujah! Amen, come LORD Jesus!

 

[for_his_glory]

I really do not know what more I can add. Some things we agree on and some we do not. For the sake of falling into an argument over this I will graciously bow out and wish you a blessed day.