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Some angels are described with wings, but none have halos. Study cherubim and seraphim. Angels generally appeared to men and women as men, sometimes radiating light. When you read the term "the Angel of the LORD" that is a reference to Christ before His incarnation.Does the bible tell us anything about how angels look? Do they have wings and halos like pictures portray?
Does the bible tell us anything about how angels look? Do they have wings and halos like pictures portray?
(this thread is not intended for worship of angels, JUST to let everyone know.)
Some angels are described with wings, but none have halos. Study cherubim and seraphim. Angels generally appeared to men and women as men, sometimes radiating light. When you read the term "the Angel of the LORD" that is a reference to Christ before His incarnation.
BTW your avatar should be an angel if you wish to be consistent. You have Mary's little lamb.
I believe angels can be transformed to look like people, to walk among us.Angels look like us, and you won't tell the difference unless it's made known, or they radiate the fear of the Lord.
I think that sometimes it is the Lord Jesus who has come in judgement. The clearest scripture that shows that He does, would be in Revelation 19. So I'm not convinced that at times it wasn't He, who was sent in judgement as the Angel (messanger) of God.And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(Luk 9:54-55)
You might want to re-check some things here.Just to be sure.
Mike
I believe angels can be transformed to look like people, to walk among us.
I think that sometimes it is the Lord Jesus who has come in judgement. The clearest scripture that shows that He does, would be in Revelation 19. So I'm not convinced that at times it wasn't He, who was sent in judgement as the Angel (messanger) of God.
Maybe you are correct....but was Joshua worshiping an created being, angel?There are a whole lot of scriptural issues thinking that Angel of the Lord could ever refer to the Son of God to do God's Work, created servants where designed to do.
And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments: And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
(Luk 24:4-5)
And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling. Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
(Dan 10:11-12)
And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
(Act 10:25-26)
Joshua was worshiping a created being, an angel. Unless you have stood next to one who radiated the full fear and glory of God, it's hard to understand why someone would drop to their knee's before a Angel of the Lord. These things are powerful, and amazing in strength.
When they rolled the tomb stone away, the Angels standing there radiated great power, enough for them to fall on their faces. Danial felt the same fear, though it was a angel sent with his answer.
Even a man fell down before Peter, and Peter corrected him.
We don't know Joshua's revelation about angels. We do have scripture where others have bowed down in the presence of them, mostly from the fear of he Lord that comes off them.
We do have someone that had great revelation, and knew better. Once again though, we ourselves would have to be standing next to one of these things to comprehend what is felt. I am talking about John.
Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
(Rev 22:7-9)
Just as Abraham had an angel there when about to sacrifice Issac, It was the Lord that spoke. Same with John, He just Heard the Lord Jesus, but it was a Angel standing there and John fell down to worship also. John knew better about the worship of Angels, but at that intense moment, and hearing the voice of the Lord Jesus, John just went with what His flesh was feeling. the Angel just gently corrects John not to bow down and do that.
We need to compare all the scriptures, and see what is really going on.
Thank you Deborah, always fun to speak with you.
Angels look like us, and you won't tell the difference unless it's made known, or they radiate the fear of the Lord.
Now that's interesting. Is there an account of someone feeling fear before an angel actually revealed themselves to someone?
I really think, they have no need of wings.
In Gen.19:1,5
2 angels came to Sodom, looked like men.
Gen_21:17 And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
This case Hagar might have been in fear over the situation before the Angel called down saying fear not.
Mat_28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
Luk_1:13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
Luk_1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
Angels have a habit of showing up and saying "Fear Not" Their presence may be known to them to cause fear in us.
God more than once has used angels to scare whole armies into running. People fall to their knee's in the presence of Angels. We are told we entertain Angels unaware, not feeling anything.
Protection:
The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.
(Psa 34:7)
If someone was planning to break into your house and harm your family, all it takes is one of these angels to get next to the intruder and say, "You do this, you die" and they will decided that is the wrong house, it will go from their mind all their plans to break in and they will flee. You would never know what is going or what someone was planning. I suspect these things happen for us more than we can ever see or know.
I have a few personal stories about the fear these things give off.
Whatever the case, or how much we understand, we trust God, not the angels, and we never attempt to speak to them, praise them, or give heed to them unless they come on the behalf of the Lord. Even then, we need to check everything and confirm it was an angel from the Lord.
Blessings.
True. That does not mean that angels do not need wings. Study the cherubim and the seraphim.I really think, they have no need of wings.
In Gen.19:1,5 2 angels came to Sodom, looked like men.
Taking out all the stuff written in between the actual scripture, I still cant come to see where fear is actually radiated. I do appreciate your bolding of the word fear in each of the passages, but when plainly ready, without human guidance, under no circumstances does the fear part come first. It always comes as a reaction when an angel presents itself in shining glory. Key word being reaction.
I am sure that Brother Mike can speak for himself, but from the scriptures that he has posted I see the context of fear as something other than being afraid. The fear Mike is talking of, or at least the way I perceive he is talking about it, being that he is talking of a radiated fear, then I would characterize the fear more toward reverence for the revealed Glory of God. In context with Brother Mike post's, he has used this radiated fear in conjunction with men falling down to worship them, yet being cautioned not to do so.
Now if this is the image that Brother Mike is trying to paint with this idea of radiated fear, then I would point you to the story of Moses and why he had to put a vale over his face so that children of Israel could not look upon Him.
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I am sure that Brother Mike can speak for himself, but from the scriptures that he has posted I see the context of fear as something other than being afraid. The fear Mike is talking of, or at least the way I perceive he is talking about it, being that he is talking of a radiated fear, then I would characterize the fear more toward reverence for the revealed Glory of God. In context with Brother Mike post's, he has used this radiated fear in conjunction with men falling down to worship them, yet being cautioned not to do so.
Now if this is the image that Brother Mike is trying to paint with this idea of radiated fear, then I would point you to the story of Moses and why he had to put a vale over his face so that children of Israel could not look upon Him.
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