Any Trekkee's out there?

[Michael74]

IAnd when the mass is large enough to be curved, its displacement affects the curvature of space...

All mass curves space, even the microscopic. It also curves time. Time slows down on planets, and stops at the event horizon of black holes. Time and space curvatures are interwoven with each other, and extend into dimensions that science cannot currently detect, but the math of string theory requires that at least 11 dimensions exist. There may be many more.

 

[Michael74]

The tours were longer in ww2
Yet less suicides

Fewer heavy combat infantry came home from 2. In Iraq, they had much better training and medical care. The all volunteer force chose only the best and brightest, and trained extensively to become proficient. It was a very different war.

 

[Michael74]

Are we any closer to explaining gravity using particle physics, rather than Relativity?

Computers are not yet sufficiently advanced to work with exact numbers in quantum physics. For many years, physicists used unrealistic point particles in their models, because the math of using realistic 3D particles was impossible to do by hand. This led to nonsensical results, since quantum effects below the Plank length become extreme. When computers became sufficiently advanced, they switched to unrealistic 2D strings longer than the Plank length in an attempt to get better results. However, even the fastest computers cannot work out the exact equations for 2D strings, so they use approximations instead.

The approximations are not sufficiently precise to work out the details, so physicists are left with thousands of possible string shapes to work with. 2D shapes are also unrealistic, even if computers could work out the 2D exact equations. In reality, all matter has at least 3 dimensions, but computers can't even work the approximations with 3D shapes. String theory requires that particles have at least 11 dimensions, so it may be awhile before computers become advanced enough to work with the math.

So we are closer, but it could be awhile yet before physicists can work out the details. All they have now are thousands of possible particle shapes and theories, with no computers capable of working the math to figure out which one is correct.

 

[JohnD]

But isn't it possible that what we study under the microscope is the effects of what I spoke about in general fashion?

The push of war between two curved surfaces of given sizes produces what we call gravity?

 

[JohnD]

And my question is, if gravity is the push-o-war between two curved surfaces ->))<- could antigravity be the opposite?

<-))->

Think of the possibilities and solutions of antigravity in shipping and transportation... insomnia... can you imagine sleeping in a zero G bed? Could we invert devastating weather with zero G (turn a tornado upside down / inside out)? I mean... wow.

 

[JohnD]

Imagine hovering along in one of these babies (four or five feet above the ground)...

 

[JohnD]

))) [HHHHH}
^^^^^^^

antigravity would also be the propulsion

Impel / repel / propel all sorts of uses.

Moving furniture, storage, even crop growth a million and one uses...

Zero G hair dos even... LOL \\\\/////

 

[JohnD]

It could be focused in on incoming missiles / lasers / particle beams to protect anything but especially satellites and things with that large of a buffer zone.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Computers are not yet sufficiently advanced to work with exact numbers in quantum physics. For many years, physicists used unrealistic point particles in their models, because the math of using realistic 3D particles was impossible to do by hand. This led to nonsensical results, since quantum effects below the Plank length become extreme. When computers became sufficiently advanced, they switched to unrealistic 2D strings longer than the Plank length in an attempt to get better results. However, even the fastest computers cannot work out the exact equations for 2D strings, so they use approximations instead.

The approximations are not sufficiently precise to work out the details, so physicists are left with thousands of possible string shapes to work with. 2D shapes are also unrealistic, even if computers could work out the 2D exact equations. In reality, all matter has at least 3 dimensions, but computers can't even work the approximations with 3D shapes. String theory requires that particles have at least 11 dimensions, so it may be awhile before computers become advanced enough to work with the math.

So we are closer, but it could be awhile yet before physicists can work out the details. All they have now are thousands of possible particle shapes and theories, with no computers capable of working the math to figure out which one is correct.

Darn! You beat me to it.

 

[jasonc]

Fewer heavy combat infantry came home from 2. In Iraq, they had much better training and medical care. The all volunteer force chose only the best and brightest, and trained extensively to become proficient. It was a very different war.

ww2 had a surivival rate of 80% its a war, not a police action. I say this as im a vet of aghanistan. trust me. statistically where I was at in agfhanistan while bad, some cities in America were more dangerous.nam vets don't have that high of a suicide rate. I think in part its due to that we are into more social media. we don't talk to each other in person. trust me what I saw in Afghanistan will always pale to what any nam vet that was in the heat saw. how many actual combat missions did I do? where if had to firefight? 0. my company 0. last deployment where we had the soldier take his life? 0. it was a detainee ops mission. stressful yes but not the same type as ww2. normal prison work. a detainee ops mission is nearly exactly the same as a prison correction setting as stress.

 

[Michael74]

But isn't it possible that what we study under the microscope is the effects of what I spoke about in general fashion?

The push of war between two curved surfaces of given sizes produces what we call gravity?

A single object curves space and time. You don't need 2. Take the example of distant suns with no planets orbiting them. Photons (no rest mass) coming from them are red shifted by the stars' gravity wells. Time still slows down on a single object, so events take place slower than they would in open space. A clock in an NASA probe in deep space will tick faster than a clock on earth. A clock placed on an asteroid with nothing around it will still tick slower. You don't need a 2nd asteroid for the space/time curvature to manifest.

2 objects tend to orbit around a common centroid, suggesting that it is their combined mass that produces the shape of local space/time curvature. That is, the moon does not orbit around the earth's exact center, but rather both the earth and the moon orbit around a common centroid. 2 objects of equal mass orbit around a point mid-way between them. If there are 2 objects, their curvatures combine with each other to curve space/time around a common centroid.

 

[Michael74]

I think in part its due to that we are into more social media. we don't talk to each other in person.

Right, but rates are lower for those who seek care within the system. Convincing people who need help to ask for it is the key. They don't have to do it alone. They can talk to groups of other people with similar experiences, and provide social support each other.

Even the civilian sector has had good results with such social support groups.

 

[jasonc]

Right, but rates are lower for those who seek care within the system. Convincing people who need help to ask for it is the key. They don't have to do it alone. They can talk to groups of other people with similar experiences, and provide social support each other.

Even the civilian sector has had good results with such social support groups.

that has been the case. it still happens. I have been told that at times it still doesn't work. I hate to be negative but it is the best case. im not for sharing but well. that topic is for another thread. the army also unintentionally punishes you if you come forward. ie if I told them that I had yelled once at my wife. I wont be allowed to have a gun and must PAY for a shrink to clear me. no thanks! I have had this conversion with my chaplain. don't tell the health care you feel down at times from situations as they might overeact. lesson learned.

 

[Michael74]

You are right that treatment does not always work. It only works most of the time. Its worth trying, for those who need it.

As the army downsizes, any little excuse will sometimes be used to torpedo careers. For those returning to civilian status anyway, this is not a factor. The system does a good job for this group when they ask for help. Downsizing does put career NCOs into a situation. More needs to be done for them. Forcing them to seek civilian support groups, or go it alone, has not been effective.

 

[Michael74]

Darn! You beat me to it.

Learning from your excellent posts must have improved my thought process.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Learning from your excellent posts must have improved my thought process.

Aw, schucks. You done made me blush. :blush

You bring some good stuff to the table around here. Hope you hang around awhile.

 

[jasonc]

You are right that treatment does not always work. It only works most of the time. Its worth trying, for those who need it.

As the army downsizes, any little excuse will sometimes be used to torpedo careers. For those returning to civilian status anyway, this is not a factor. The system does a good job for this group when they ask for help. Downsizing does put career NCOs into a situation. More needs to be done for them. Forcing them to seek civilian support groups, or go it alone, has not been effective.

they aren't using psych issues to downsize, that would defeat the purpose. if you come forward with suicidal adulations, your fired or layed off. yup that would really ensure that would happen.

I don't want to derail this thread on an issue I know a lot about. I will say this. its not good when the chaplain says be careful what you report. it can be take the wrong way. the system is broken. very broken.I have had a few chats with him on this subject. he is aware of the recent event that those that know about it, will only know. if I had the paper trail or record of the call and the person's info in that . I could be awarded for actions but I don't care for a reward. the person is alive. that is all that matters. yes my training did aid that person.

 

[Michael74]

I am happy that everything worked out okay for your friend.

 

[jasonc]

I am happy that everything worked out okay for your friend.

he is a member of this forum. I cant post what said nor the name. I emailed him Saturday to check in. I make it point to at least email him as much as possible.

that said. as much as I loathe the new star trek. each generation is used to technology of their day. think about how the computer sounded on the tos compared to what we have today with voice technology with robo calls. so to have that voice of majel barret in the tng,voyager,ds9 for the federation vessels is much better but still. remember the motion picture? the changes made to the enterprise and how they just did that? gene Roddenberry said that had to happen as special effects were much better so they redrafted the newer looking enterprise then later explained the refit reasoning in the books called star trek the lost years. ncc 1701 refit was in an accident where she cause a warp field inversion and lost both one nacelles. jettisoned her reactor, she was towed back to star base and it was a battle to either repair or moth ball that vessel. they choose to refit here from scrap. the m5 from the tv show is the main computer for enterprise ncc 1701 a. yes that one with multitronics that had intelligence. the ncc 1701 a also had aft torpedoes and so did ncc 1701 refit. both also had transwarp drive. just not as fast as the execelsior.

 

[jasonc]

http://www.startrek.com/article/remembering-grace-lee-whitney-1930-2015
I had a crush on her.