AOC... The New Prophetess?

[Corn Pop]

Best to keep faith out of it. It's just different views on climate, nothing to do with knowing God.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

I think a good deal of the pushback against the idea of man influenced climate change is that somehow it became a political football with the more liberal party (democrats) saying it is real and needs addressed and the changes they say are needed are perceived as harmful to businesses and to some degree personal freedom.
And the American church to a large degree has become quite aligned with a conservative approach to business and other similar philosophies.

 

[Corn Pop]

The earth's temperature has been changing since the dawn of time, and plant life loves c o 2 Think of the trees and plants.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

Yes. Today the temperature will be different from yesterday. This week different from last.
It is a question of averages of much longer timeframes. And a complexity of the size of the planet and temperature differences over that expanse.
The future will tell us if science is right.

 

[JLB]

Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted In Recent Elections


On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.

“Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed."


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...e-actually-voted-in-recent-elections-n2540285






JLB

 

[Bull of the Woods]

Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted In Recent Elections


On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.

“Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed."


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...e-actually-voted-in-recent-elections-n2540285






JLB

I read that if every one of them voted in one election it would amount to 0.069% of the voters. If their technique is accurate.

 

[Corn Pop]

I read that if every one of them voted in one election it would amount to 0.069% of the voters. If their technique is accurate.

And what is that suppose to mean?. There is no excuses for voter fraud.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

And what is that suppose to mean?. There is no excuses for voter fraud.

It means that too often people in current power raise these issues and their real motivation is not some pure motive.
Or they waste our money on a pet issue. Take The Wall for instance. The vast majority of drugs and people who become illegal immigrants enter right through the border gateways.
So we could build a hundred foot high wall and unless something much cheaper is done with the immigration system not much difference is going to be made. The 5.7 billion dollar Wall money the president wants is just a start and ultimately he will ask for fifty or more billions and that will have a minuscule effect. The issue is people enter perfectly legally, get a temporary green card or visa and stay when the time expires. They BECOME illegals in Wyoming, Illinois, or wherever they are when the time is up. A tiny minority get in by climbing a wall. Sure barriers are useful in places. But what Trump wants is a typical government boondoggle to allow him to say he made good on a campaign promise. Setting aside the joke all along that Mexico would pay for it.

 

[Corn Pop]

It means that too often people in current power raise these issues and their real motivation is not some pure motive.
Or they waste our money on a pet issue. Take The Wall for instance. The vast majority of drugs and people who become illegal immigrants enter right through the border gateways.
So we could build a hundred foot high wall and unless something much cheaper is done with the immigration system not much difference is going to be made. The 5.7 billion dollar Wall money the president wants is just a start and ultimately he will ask for fifty or more billions and that will have a minuscule effect. The issue is people enter perfectly legally, get a temporary green card or visa and stay when the time expires. They BECOME illegals in Wyoming, Illinois, or wherever they are when the time is up. A tiny minority get in by climbing a wall. Sure barriers are useful in places. But what Trump wants is a typical government boondoggle to allow him to say he made good on a campaign promise. Setting aside the joke all along that Mexico would pay for it.

When there is a hole in the system like a open door at the boarder, and the whole world knows it, and many unknown people are going through it, that needs to be fixed.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

When there is a hole in the system like a open door at the boarder, and the whole world knows it, and many unknown people are going through it, that needs to be fixed.

I wonder how many men, women, and children have died making journeys why liberals hold there welcome signs. Do they care. It's like the boats as well, completely dangerous, instead of having zero tolerance and sending a clear message, people attempt to make it and there boats sink why liberals are on the other side are holding signs saying come you are welcome. Do they care.

I try to minimise people from dying, and minimise criminal activity from enting the nation. Know one knows how many illegal weapons or meth or terrorists are coming through that unsecured boarder.

If people want to go to a nation go through the right and most safe channels.

The gates are not open. Agents of our country man them. They let people through in accordance with law.
As I said, way fewer people slip over the border than those who present themselves to our border officials.
If that system needs fixed a wall has nothing to do with that.
I live on a farm. If people kept coming past my gate and down my driveway to steal things, putting up extra fencing is not where to put my limited money. I need better protection at the gate.

 

[Corn Pop]

The gates are not open. Agents of our country man them. They let people through in accordance with law.
As I said, way fewer people slip over the border than those who present themselves to our border officials.
If that system needs fixed a wall has nothing to do with that.
I live on a farm. If people kept coming past my gate and down my driveway to steal things, putting up extra fencing is not where to put my limited money. I need better protection at the gate.

You already have good protection at the gate, you still need to fix that hole in the fence. As for the people who enter your farm with your permission and then disrespect your host rules and don't leave after you tell them they only have permission on your farm for one day, what do you do?. Just be tolerant as word gets out and more people come and stay and disrespect your host rule. I mean, most households have rules, I can't just walk into anyone's house and light a smoke. Usually people knock on other people's front door, they don't just walk in and do what they want.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

You already have good protection at the gate, you still need to fix that hole in the fence. As for the people who enter your farm with your permission and then disrespect your host rules and don't leave after you tell them they only have permission on your farm for one day, what do you do?. Just be tolerant as word gets out and more people come and stay and disrespect your rule.

The drugs and immigrants are coming through manned border gates. I am a conservative. I want the government putting my money where it will be most effective. I don't like the idea of a wall where virtually no one is trying to cross the border any more than I like a bridge to no where.
Frankly I know the government is going to waste my money, even one with Trump as president for sure. I don't like it that Christians fall for illogical arguments and chant "build the wall" as if that wall will have a noticeable effect beyond putting the government more in debt and lavishly overpaying some contractors. For years because the five billion Trump wants is just a start.
And how much is the longer wall between us and Canada going to cost?
But putting money into systemic tracking of people who have temporary status here and getting them out if they over stay would actually have an impact.

 

[Corn Pop]

Frankly I know the government is going to waste my money

I remember our flag change refferendum, the govn spent mega millions and the flag is still the same, not like there were more important issues the people could have voted on, lol, meanwhile at the same time why that was all over the mainstream media distracting the masses, the PM was behind closed doors at the casino signing the TPP.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

I remember our flag change refferendum, the govn spent mega millions and the flag is still the same, not like there were more important issues the people could have voted on, lol, meanwhile at the same time why that was all over the mainstream media distracting the masses, the PM was behind closed doors at the casino signing the TPP.

I should be clear that I am sure an updated and in places new barriers are appropriate. But they are only the tip of the iceberg. And as a Christian I WANT it to be possible, very possibile, for people in Central America who have little hope at home and fear for their children to come here legally. Shoot I would be fine if we had our government screen them in their countries and bus them or fly them here.

 

[Corn Pop]

I should be clear that I am sure an updated and in places new barriers are appropriate. But they are only the tip of the iceberg. And as a Christian I WANT it to be possible, very possibile, for people in Central America who have little hope at home and fear for their children to come here legally. Shoot I would be fine if we had our government screen them in their countries and bus them or fly them here.

I understand what you are saying but nothing is going to change as long as the countries they all come from stay insanely crooked. Why do they give known oppressive crooked countries forign aid. I have no idea why some countries get billions in foriegn aid if the people who need it get to the point some people need to flee the country.

But, I dont go on a lot of issues because every country in conflict has regions and cities that are safe and not in conflict, maybe some people there can give them housing, some food, can find a job, why do many need to flee to the other side of the world?. If they are threatened for there life then I understand, and sure there would be a few, like christian's in some countries, or some people who freely left the "religion of peace" and are called apostates where the penalty for apostacy is death.

 

[stovebolts]

You, sir, have zero business questioning my faith. ZERO.
Nor do you display discernment because you are so wrong about my faith and my personal practices.
I won't put up with these shenanigans. People DO declare with big events that they personally know what God was doing. Not that they are speculating, but they know.
Take the election of Trump. Many Christians see it as something God did to straighten out liberal messes. Many good Christians see it as more similar to the way God let Israel have Saul as king. Letting them get a lesson. But people saying they KNOW what God was and is doing in this as it is happening is foolish. Time may give a better clue.

Anyway you are welcome to tell me you think I am wrong in something I write if you can avoid personal insults.
If you insist on thinking you can set yourself up as a judge of who knows God, is a believer held in His hand, who loves Him, and who doesn't I will see if the folks running this forum can accept your type as members.
You are welcome to apologize to me if you can, as you should.

I also agree that an apology is in order.

 

[Corn Pop]

Forgive thy brother

 

[Corn Pop]

When a politician spouts off about how we need to tax this thing and that process, you should just fork over your cash. Nobody solves problems like government.

 

[jasonc]

I read that if every one of them voted in one election it would amount to 0.069% of the voters. If their technique is accurate.

Then why do supervisors of elections say every vote matters,small local elections have been won by a few hundred.

Locally I bet those could tip an election, Fraud is fraud,since 95 000 is probably the amount or greater of snowbirds in my county these can because of no sharing of state rolls double vote in potus elections

That could tip my state or their origin .

 

[Bull of the Woods]

Then why do supervisors of elections say every vote matters,small local elections have been won by a few hundred.

Locally I bet those could tip an election, Fraud is fraud,since 95 000 is probably the amount or greater of snowbirds in my county these can because of no sharing of state rolls double vote in potus elections

That could tip my state or their origin .

I don't argue that every vote matters. The Russians worked on that premise in 2016.
I question the motivation of some of these politicians.
Anyway they said 58,000 may have voted but that wasn't in one election.
And they don't know what number of people got their citizenship.
They were looking at people who had used green cards to get drivers licenses going back many years.
They haven't checked one individual yet to see what their status was when they registered to vote.