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Statements of the apostolic faith revealed by Christ and taught by His apostles! Jude 1:3 Matt 28:19 eph 4:5

The Apostles Creed!

I believe in one God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to hell. The third day he rose again from the dead. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty. From there he will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen.

Nicene Creed!

We believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made; one in being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven; he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, and was made man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate; he suffered and was buried. The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will never end.

And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life. He proceeds from the Father and the Son, and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified. He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church. We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look forward to the resurrection of the dead, and to life in the world to come. Amen.
 
Athanasius Creed!
(From the early church)
Whoever desires to be saved must above all hold to the catholic faith.

Anyone who does not keep it whole and entire will doubtless perish eternally.

Now this is the catholic faith:

That we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity, neither blending their persons nor dividing their essence. For the person of the Father is a distinct person, the person of the Son is another,
and that of the Holy Spirit still another.
But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one, their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.

What quality the Father has, the Son has, and the Holy Spirit has. The Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, the Holy Spirit is uncreated.

The Father is immeasurable, the Son is immeasurable, the Holy Spirit is immeasurable.

The Father is eternal, the Son is eternal,
the Holy Spirit is eternal.

And yet there are not three eternal beings; there is but one eternal being.
So too there are not three uncreated or immeasurable beings, there is but one uncreated and immeasurable being.

Similarly, the Father is almighty, the Son is almighty, the Holy Spirit is almighty. Yet there are not three almighty beings;
there is but one almighty being.

Thus the Father is God,
the Son is God,
the Holy Spirit is God.
Yet there are not three gods;
there is but one God.

Thus the Father is Lord,
the Son is Lord,
the Holy Spirit is Lord.
Yet there are not three lords;
there is but one Lord.

Just as Christian truth compels us
to confess each person individually
as both God and Lord, so catholic religion forbids us to say that there are three gods or lords.

The Father was neither made nor created nor begotten from anyone. The Son was neither made nor created; he was begotten from the Father alone. The Holy Spirit was neither made nor created nor begotten; he proceeds from the Father and the Son.

Accordingly there is one Father, not three fathers; there is one Son, not three sons;
there is one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.

Nothing in this trinity is before or after,
nothing is greater or smaller; in their entirety the three persons are coeternal and coequal with each other.

So in everything, as was said earlier,
we must worship their trinity in their unity and their unity in their trinity.

Anyone then who desires to be saved
should think thus about the trinity.

But it is necessary for eternal salvation
that one also believe in the incarnation
of our Lord Jesus Christ faithfully.

Now this is the true faith:

That we believe and confess
that our Lord Jesus Christ, God's Son,
is both God and human, equally.

He is God from the essence of the Father,
begotten before time; and he is human from the essence of his mother, born in time; completely God, completely human, with a rational soul and human flesh; equal to the Father as regards divinity, less than the Father as regards humanity.

Although he is God and human,
yet Christ is not two, but one.
He is one, however, not by his divinity being turned into flesh, but by God's taking humanity to himself.He is one,
certainly not by the blending of his essence, but by the unity of his person.
For just as one human is both rational soul and flesh, so too the one Christ is both God and human.

He suffered for our salvation; he descended to hell; he arose from the dead; he ascended to heaven; he is seated at the Father's right hand; from there he will come to judge the living and the dead. At his coming all people will arise bodily and give an accounting of their own deeds. Those who have done good will enter eternal life, and those who have done evil will enter eternal fire.

This is the catholic faith:
one cannot be saved without believing it firmly and faithfully.
 
Chalcedonian creed
We, then, following the holy Fathers, all with one consent, teach men to confess one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, the same perfect in Godhead and also perfect in manhood; truly God and truly man, of a reasonable soul and body; consubstantial with us according to the manhood; in all things like unto us, without sin; begotten before all ages of the Father according to the Godhead, and in these latter days, for us and for our salvation, born of the virgin Mary, the mother of God, according to the manhood; one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, Only-begotten, to be acknowledged in two natures, inconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; the distinction of natures being by no means taken away by the union, but rather the property of each nature being preserved, and concurring in one Person and one Subsistence, not parted or divided into two persons, but one and the same Son, and only begotten, God the Word, the Lord Jesus Christ, as the prophets from the beginning have declared concerning him, and the Lord Jesus Christ himself taught us, and the Creed of the holy Fathers has handed down to us.
 
Nicene creed with scripture reference!

I believe in one God, (Romans 10:10; Deuteronomy 6:4)
the Father Almighty, (Matthew 6:9; Exodus 6:3)
maker of heaven and earth, (Genesis 1:1; John 1:1)
and of all things visible and invisible. (Colossians 1:16)
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, (Romans 10:9, Ephesians 4:5)
the only-begotten Son of God, (John 3:16; Matthew 16:16)
begotten of His Father before all worlds, (John 1:2)
God of God, Light of Light, (John 17:22; John 8:12; John 1:1)
very God of very God, (Colossians 2:9)
begotten, not made, (John 1:2)
being of one substance with the Father, (John 10:30)
by Whom all things were made; (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:3)
Who for us men and for our salvation (1 Timothy 2:4; Romans 3:23)
came down from heaven (John 6:41; Luke 15:20)
and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary (Luke 1:34–35)
and was made man; (John 1:14)
and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. (Mark 15:25; John 19:16–18)
He suffered and was buried. (John 19:1–3; Luke 23:53)
And the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:4; Luke 24:6)
and ascended into heaven (Acts 1:9)
and sits at the right hand of the Father. (Acts 7:55)
And He will come again with glory (Matthew 26:64)
to judge both the living and the dead, (Acts 10:42; Matthew 3:12)
Whose kingdom will have no end. (Luke 1:33; 2 Peter 1:11)
And I believe in the Holy Spirit, (John 14:26; Genesis 1:2; Acts 2:38)
the Lord and giver of life, (Genesis 1:2; John 3:6)
Who proceeds from the Father and the Son, (John 15:26)
Who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, (Matthew 3:16–17; Luke 2:14)
Who spoke by the prophets. (Ezekiel 11:5; 2Peter 1:20–21)
And I believe in one holy Christian and apostolic Church, (1 Peter 2:5; Ephesians 2:19–22)
I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins, (Ephesians 4:5; Acts 2:38)
and I look for the resurrection of the dead (1 Corinthians 15:35–49; 1 Thessalonians 4:13–18)
and the life of the world to come. (Mark 10:29–30; Matthew 10:40–42)
Amen. (Psalm 106:48)
 
Statements of the apostolic faith revealed by Christ and taught by His apostles! Jude 1:3 Matt 28:19 eph 4:5

The Apostles Creed!

I believe in one God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to hell. The third day he rose again from the dead. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty. From there he will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen.

Nicene Creed!

We believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made; one in being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven; he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, and was made man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate; he suffered and was buried. The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will never end.

And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life. He proceeds from the Father and the Son, and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified. He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church. We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look forward to the resurrection of the dead, and to life in the world to come. Amen.
The apostle creed, because of it is titled, the Apostle Creed, many people believe that it was actually drawn up by the apostles of Jesus Christ. In fact, some even claim that each of the apostles contributed a sentence in composing this creed.

On this point, Professor G. C. Stead wrote in The Expository Times: “Anyone who has read at all extensively in early Christian literature is bound to come to a different conclusion.” He argued that if there was in existence a creed formally designed and approved by the apostles, it would be difficult to explain why there were so many different ‘confessions’ and ‘statements of faith’ in existence among the early churches. The fact is that “a statement of Christian belief which approximately agrees in wording with the Apostles’ Creed cannot be found in any surviving writing earlier than A.D. 340.”

The Bible, in Acts chapter 15, does speak of a council of the apostles and older men in Jerusalem. But the purpose of that meeting was not to draw up or to amend a creed but to consider whether it was necessary for Gentile Christians to be circumcised.

On the night before he was put to death, Jesus Christ prayed to his heavenly Father regarding his disciples: “Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth.” (John 17:17) He was praying for his disciples to be sanctified, or set apart. But did he refer to any written code or creed? No! Rather, he showed that what God has said, as recorded in the Bible, set them apart from others.

When discussing the matter of prayer, Jesus said: “Do not say the same things over and over again.” (Matthew 6:7) Since Jesus disapproved of repeating written or memorized prayers, does it not stand to reason that he also would disapprove of reciting creeds in public worship? The fact is that nowhere in the Bible can we find any reference to Jesus’ using or instructing anyone to use creeds in worship. “God is a Spirit,” he said, “and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.”(John 4:24)

When we're talking about creeds, the opening words of such creeds are, "I believe" or, "We believe." This expression is translated from the Latin word “credo,” from which comes the word “creed.” But does the repetition of such words prove that one really believes?

In the famous Sermon on the Mount, Jesus stated: “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.” He also condemned the religionists of his day for holding on to traditions of men.(Matthew 7:21; 15:8)

Isn't it true that what we learn from Jesus’ words, is that it is valueless in God’s eyes for one merely to repeat what one claims to believe. Rather, it is “doing the will of Jesus Father(God) that will bring God’s approval.

To know what God’s will is, one must turn to the scriptures and diligently study them. So, rather than memorizing or repeating creeds, we must do what Jesus said in prayer to his Father: “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” (John 17:3) This is what I believe that when God inspired men to write down his thoughts on matters, God inspired men to write down thoughts like John 3:16; John 17:3; John 20:17 to name a few, which teach me that Jesus is who scriptures says he is. That he's the only begotten son of God that God sent to the world of mankind to die for mankind and anyone exercising faith in this loving provision will get everlasting life. Love is the answer who will be saved, those who love God first and foremost, and those who love their neighbors, and especially love those who are your spiritual brothers and sisters, because scripture teaches us if we can't love our spiritual brothers and sisters who we can see, it's impossible to love God who we can't see.
 
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The apostle creed, because of it is titled, the Apostle Creed, many people believe that it was actually drawn up by the apostles of Jesus Christ. In fact, some even claim that each of the apostles contributed a sentence in composing this creed.

On this point, Professor G. C. Stead wrote in The Expository Times: “Anyone who has read at all extensively in early Christian literature is bound to come to a different conclusion.” He argued that if there was in existence a creed formally designed and approved by the apostles, it would be difficult to explain why there were so many different ‘confessions’ and ‘statements of faith’ in existence among the early churches. The fact is that “a statement of Christian belief which approximately agrees in wording with the Apostles’ Creed cannot be found in any surviving writing earlier than A.D. 340.”

The Bible, in Acts chapter 15, does speak of a council of the apostles and older men in Jerusalem. But the purpose of that meeting was not to draw up or to amend a creed but to consider whether it was necessary for Gentile Christians to be circumcised.

On the night before he was put to death, Jesus Christ prayed to his heavenly Father regarding his disciples: “Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth.” (John 17:17) He was praying for his disciples to be sanctified, or set apart. But did he refer to any written code or creed? No! Rather, he showed that what God has said, as recorded in the Bible, set them apart from others.

When discussing the matter of prayer, Jesus said: “Do not say the same things over and over again.” (Matthew 6:7) Since Jesus disapproved of repeating written or memorized prayers, does it not stand to reason that he also would disapprove of reciting creeds in public worship? The fact is that nowhere in the Bible can we find any reference to Jesus’ using or instructing anyone to use creeds in worship. “God is a Spirit,” he said, “and those worshiping him must worship with spirit and truth.”(John 4:24)

When we're talking about creeds, the opening words of such creeds are, "I believe" or, "We believe." This expression is translated from the Latin word “credo,” from which comes the word “creed.” But does the repetition of such words prove that one really believes?

In the famous Sermon on the Mount, Jesus stated: “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.” He also condemned the religionists of his day for holding on to traditions of men.(Matthew 7:21; 15:8)

Isn't it true that what we learn from Jesus’ words, is that it is valueless in God’s eyes for one merely to repeat what one claims to believe. Rather, it is “doing the will of Jesus Father(God) that will bring God’s approval.

To know what God’s will is, one must turn to the scriptures and diligently study them. So, rather than memorizing or repeating creeds, we must do what Jesus said in prayer to his Father: “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” (John 17:3) This is what I believe that when God inspired men to write down his thoughts on matters, God inspired men to write down thoughts like John 3:16; John 17:3; John 20:17 to name a few, which teach me that Jesus is who scriptures says he is. That he's the only begotten son of God that God sent to the world of mankind to die for mankind and anyone exercising faith in this loving provision will get everlasting life. Love is the answer who will be saved, those who love God first and foremost, and those who love their neighbors, and especially love those who are your spiritual brothers and sisters, because scripture teaches us if we can't love our spiritual brothers and sisters who we can see, it's impossible to love God who we can't see.
Hi BB
Just want to say that you're correct on all.

I don't know the denomination of the other member, but in the CC the Nicene creed is used.

For those reading along that may not know, the creeds were written because they attempted to adjust some false believe that was spreading in the church af that time.

For example, the Nicene Creed, 325AD was in response to the heresy of arianism, the heresy that was being perpetrated stating that Jesus was a man.

I'm not Catholic BTW.
I do attend Mass at times.
I just can't agree with some doctrine.
 
Hi BB
Just want to say that you're correct on all.

I don't know the denomination of the other member, but in the CC the Nicene creed is used.

For those reading along that may not know, the creeds were written because they attempted to adjust some false believe that was spreading in the church af that time.

For example, the Nicene Creed, 325AD was in response to the heresy of arianism, the heresy that was being perpetrated stating that Jesus was a man.

I'm not Catholic BTW.
I do attend Mass at times.
I just can't agree with some doctrine.
I just believe that it's not some creed that's going to save anyone, but love for God and his only begotten Son. Showing love to our neighbors but especially toward those who are our spiritual brothers and sisters. We should believe the truth that the True God inspired to be written down. These writings teach us love is the answer about who gets eternal life.
 
I just believe that it's not some creed that's going to save anyone, but love for God and his only begotten Son. Showing love to our neighbors but especially toward those who are our spiritual brothers and sisters. We should believe the truth that the True God inspired to be written down. These writings teach us love is the answer about who gets eternal life.
Of course.

But, I have to say, the creeds do determine, IMHO, who can be called a Christian.
We have persons coming on the board who say Jesus is not God and yet they call themselves a Christian.

Would you agree that there are some beliefs we're to accept if we want to be called a Christian?
 
So many posts to reply to.

I attend an Evangelical Anglican church here in Sydney and we say the Apostles Creed together as a congregation now and again as a communal statement of our faith. Great to do, knowing that thousands of other Christians have done the same for close to 2000 years.

The creeds are great as statements of faith. The Apostles Creed is great to keep in mind as a solid foundation to help explain if someone asks what you believe. But they are statements of faith only, and by repeating them they do not make you a Christian.

The word "catholic" means universal and does not refer to the Catholic Church itself.
 
Of course.

But, I have to say, the creeds do determine, IMHO, who can be called a Christian.
We have persons coming on the board who say Jesus is not God and yet they call themselves a Christian.

Would you agree that there are some beliefs we're to accept if we want to be called a Christian?
What I understand about people is that whether they're a protestant or Catholic or whatever kind of christian they call themselves they all, each and every one, meaning each individual church, will say they're the true church. Those who say they're of the true church are saying they're the true Christians and if you don't live or believe in what they say the truth is, you're not a christian. So I know that each individual must make a decision on what they believe the truth is in the scriptures. The scriptures say there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father, so we all must individually make a decision who the true God is who Jesus Christ is, and what faith is the true faith. Obviously we're not all choosing the same congregation(Church) as being the true congregation(Church). That means that we all don't agree with what beliefs are actually from the scriptures and are of the True faith or that belong to the True Christian congregation(Church). This is reasonable since Jesus, while on earth, said there would be imitation christians(weeds). These weeds, although Satan is their ruler, will not believe they're Satan's disciples but they honestly will believe they are Jesus Christ disciples, they will honestly believe they are True servants of the True God. So when these weeds help put the True disciples of Jesus in prison or help in having them put to death, they will honestly believe they're doing a service for the True God.
The point I'm trying to make here is this, yes, I agree that there are beliefs we must accept to be a True Christian, but I also know that not all will agree what those true beliefs are.
 
What I understand about people is that whether they're a protestant or Catholic or whatever kind of christian they call themselves they all, each and every one, meaning each individual church, will say they're the true church. Those who say they're of the true church are saying they're the true Christians and if you don't live or believe in what they say the truth is, you're not a christian. So I know that each individual must make a decision on what they believe the truth is in the scriptures. The scriptures say there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father, so we all must individually make a decision who the true God is who Jesus Christ is, and what faith is the true faith. Obviously we're not all choosing the same congregation(Church) as being the true congregation(Church). That means that we all don't agree with what beliefs are actually from the scriptures and are of the True faith or that belong to the True Christian congregation(Church). This is reasonable since Jesus, while on earth, said there would be imitation christians(weeds). These weeds, although Satan is their ruler, will not believe they're Satan's disciples but they honestly will believe they are Jesus Christ disciples, they will honestly believe they are True servants of the True God. So when these weeds help put the True disciples of Jesus in prison or help in having them put to death, they will honestly believe they're doing a service for the True God.
The point I'm trying to make here is this, yes, I agree that there are beliefs we must accept to be a True Christian, but I also know that not all will agree what those true beliefs are.
I had a thread on this a few years ago.
Some said they were Christian for the mere fact that they "followed Jesus"...
No matter who they thought Jesus was - even a good teacher.
But, yes, we couldn't really come to a solid agreement.
I think believing that Jesus is God is pivitol.
The Trinity. However a person can understand it.
The death and resurrection of Jesus.
We seem to have a problem with the first two,
many coming on here and debating both, since
one effects the other.
I don't know of any church with which I can agree 100%.
I don't think one exists.
 
I had a thread on this a few years ago.
Some said they were Christian for the mere fact that they "followed Jesus"...
No matter who they thought Jesus was - even a good teacher.
But, yes, we couldn't really come to a solid agreement.
I think believing that Jesus is God is pivitol.
The Trinity. However a person can understand it.
The death and resurrection of Jesus.
We seem to have a problem with the first two,
many coming on here and debating both, since
one effects the other.
I don't know of any church with which I can agree 100%.
I don't think one exists.
I do believe there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one Father, so I do believe there is one true Congregation(Church). Jesus said there would be weeds and he said not to pull up the weeds because one of the wheat might be pulled up. It will be Jesus along with his angels that will separate the wheat and weeds. Jesus said this would happen in the last days, during his second presence(second coming). Only those who love God so much they exercise faith in him will recognize the true congragation(church). God can read hearts so it will be God who leads people to the True Congregation(Church). Jesus said no one can come to him unless the Father draws him. So it's reasonable that since a person will not recognize Jesus as being the only begotten Son of God who is the promised seed, unless the Father of Jesus draws him, that the only ones who will recognize the True Congregation(Church) that Jesus is head of, will be those that the Father of Jesus draws.
So there will be those weeds who are not being drawn by God to the True Congregation(Church) who will say that those who are in the true Congregation(Church) therefore are the True Christians, the weeds will say that their(the wheat) Congregation(Church) is the false Congregation(Church) so the weeds will be saying the wheat are false Christians and the weeds will say that Satan is their God. I know this because the scriptures teach us that the Jews, specifically the Pharisees, said Jesus was the ruler of the demons. Jesus said to his disciples that disciples are not greater than their master so just as they treated and accused him, his disciples would be treated and accused as well. This means the True Congregation(Church) would by the majority, believe the true Congregation(Church) to be false.
I understand that each of us individuals will have to make a decision on what is the truth, who God truly is, who Jesus truly is, and also I recognize that when you make a decision that disagrees with others you will be said to be a false teacher, a false Christian, a disciple of Satan so they will be saying that the church you belong to will be the false church. So people should expect this, and don't be like them. A true Christian understands that even though another person disagrees with them, that's their right. True Christians don't speak out against people exercising the same rights they have, the right to make a choice even though that choice is a wrong choice. You can only try to reason with people not debate with them or argue with them just reason with them, and if they disagree with you, that's their right to choose to disagree with you. God wants people who freely from the heart love him so much they exercise faith in him. You can't force people or debate or argue with people to do that. It must be something they do freely from the heart.
To make things clear to you, I'm not saying you and I agree what the truth is, concerning God and Jesus Christ.
 
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