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Are all the Gods the same person

Just time to post this apt Selwyn Hughes email:-


The Ultimate Discovery
For reading & meditation:Mark 15:16-39

"... when the centurion ... saw how he died, he said, 'Surely this man was the Son of God!' " (v. 39)

I cannot believe that God would write a law of "saving by sacrifice" within our hearts and evade it Himself. The psalmist asks: "Does he who formed the eye not see?" (Ps. 94:9). And Browning said: "He that created love, shall He not love?" We might add: "He that created sacrificial love, shall He not sacrifice"?

The old Chinese scholar was right who, after listening for the first time to a missionary telling the story of the loving sacrifice of God through His Son on the cross, turned to one of his pupils and said: "Didnt I tell you there ought to be a God like that?"

The leaders of the world's religions stumble over this. A leading Muslim said recently during a television debate: "A God who would stoop and suffer is not perfect."

And a Hindu commented: "If Brahman would suffer He would be unhappy, and if He were unhappy He would be imperfect, and if He were imperfect He would not be God."

The cross spells out the message that God is prepared to take into Himself the suffering caused by sin and, indeed, to take on Himself the very sins of the ones He created.

No other religion can conceive of such a thing. The cross raised on Calvary is but a reflection of an inner cross lying in the heart of God.


Through it we see that at the center of the universe is redeeming love. No greater discovery could be made or will be made than that - in earth or in heaven.

It is the ultimate in discoveries.

Prayer:

O Father, I see that if self-giving love is the meaning behind the cross, and the meaning of the universe, then it must be the meaning behind my life too. May the cross work itself out in all my relationships from this day forward. In Jesus' Name. Amen.

For further study:

John 19:1-15; 1 Corinthians 1:1-23

1. What was central to Paul's message?
2. How was the message of Christ's crucifixion viewed?
 
A timely Word 4 Today from http://www.arcamax.com:-

God - The Great Divider

'He who is not for Me is against Me'

Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division.

Luke 12:51 NIV

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Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet. Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee? Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? So there was a division among the people because of him.

John 7:40-43 KJV

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All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

Matthew 25:32-33,46 NASB

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Just time to say that the Bible assures us that the gospel invitation goes out to everyone - "God does not take pleasure in the death of anyone, but desires that all should come to repentance"

"God commands everyone, everywhere to repent & believe the gospel"

"God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, so that whoever believes/trusts in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life"

Must go

God bless!

Ian
 
This is from another post of mine and it sums up what i think about the mormon god. (<---notice capitalization or lack thereof?)

I have been carefully examining the mormon faith as of late and i can garuntee you that the god that they worship and are subject to is not by any stretch of the imagination the same God that you and i worship.

They believe that god was once a man, as human as any of us, who earned his way into being a god. They believe that god is one of many gods. They believe that we may become as god is. They believe that god has flesh and bones and is as tangible as you and i. They do not believe in the trinity. Make no mistake sister, that is not our God.

Our God is divine, was divine, and always will be divine, never once a mortal. Our God is the one and only, the Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end, the one who was, and is, and is to come. Our Father God is intangible. Our God is one entity that manifests itself in three equal forms, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Perhaps most importantly, our God is so much greater than you and i that we never have even the slightest of chance of earning equality with him.
 
EesaAbdullah said:
I cant beg to disagree, from my understanding Allah was used to refer to the God of the Universe even before Muhammad's mission, in judaism there is a similar word 'Elah' a word which according to the Gospel is similar to what Jesus used on the Cross, also in Aramaic, the language of Jesus we see that God is Alaha, also in languages similar to those, such as a language I know from my familie's background, who happen to be Christian they use the word Amlah, for the God the Father alone.

These words all seem similar, I would have thought the forum moderaters would be more demanding on asking for evidences when people make such statements about Moon Gods and so forth.
MY friend YESHUA spoke Hebrew so did the people in Israel and still does why would YESHUA speake Aramaic when everybody else speaks Hebrew?
And it is ELI it is made up of 2 words namely EL and Sheli meaning GOD MY or as in english MY GOD, still to this day
Shalom and love b'Shem YESHUA
 
Just time to post a Sat/Sun Selwyn Hughes series on why Christ is unique:-



Christianity Is Unique

For reading & meditation:John 14:1-14
"No one comes to the Father except through me." (v. 6)

We make the claim once again - Christianity is unique.

It is unique in the sense that it is the divinely appointed way to enter into a relationship with the one true and living God. There is only one way, only one Name, only one God, only one Lord, only one Mediator.

Our claim that Christianity is unique comes not from arrogance but from simple empirical fact. W. A. Visser't Hooft, in his book No Other Name, says: "There is no universality if there is no unique event." Uniqueness and universality go together.

It is because God has exalted Jesus to the highest place in the universe, "far above all rule and authority," and given Him the unique Name of "Lord," that He towers over every other name.

That, too, is the reason why every knee must bow to Him. And it is precisely because Jesus Christ is the only Savior that we are under an obligation to proclaim Him to as many as we possibly can.

In whatever culture we live, we must endeavor to make Jesus known. We must set our face against the faction in today's church that aims to modernize the gospel and says: "Let us recognize all religions as being authentic before God and seek not to convert people from their religion but encourage them to be better adherents of it."

Have these people no regard for the honor of Jesus Christ? Do they not care when Christ is seen as just one among many Saviors rather than, as God declares, the only Savior.

No true Christian can ever worship Christ without minding that others do not.

Prayer:

Father, help me understand that it is not enough to know about the faith into which You have brought me by Your grace: I must seek also to share it. Help me grasp every opportunity that comes to make the way clear to others. In Jesus' Name. Amen.

For further study:

Matthew 7:15-21;Acts 20:25-31;

Matthew 7:15-21 (New International Version)


A Tree and Its Fruit

15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.

18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.


Acts 20:25-31 (New International Version)


25"Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching the kingdom will ever see me again.
26Therefore, I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of all men.
27For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.

28Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers.[a] Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

29I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
30Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.


31So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.



1. What did Jesus warn about?
2. What was Paul's charge to the Ephesian elders?
 
Three Important Facts

For reading & meditation:Acts 10:23-48
"Now we are all here ... to listen to everything the Lord has commanded you to tell us." (v. 33)

If, as the Scripture declares, Jesus is the only way, what about people in other faiths?

First, we must be clear that there is no such thing as self-salvation. Nobody can achieve salvation by his or her religion, sincerity, or good works.

Second, Jesus Christ is the only way to God and the only Savior. Our Lord Himself said: "No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6). This effectively ends all argument.

Third, we do not know how much knowledge and understanding of the gospel a person needs to have in order to call upon God for mercy and be saved.

In the Old Testament, people were justified by faith even though they had little knowledge or expectation of Christ.

I believe that when people become aware that they cannot save themselves and need to throw themselves upon Gods mercy, in some way God reveals Himself to them and brings them through His Son to a saving knowledge of Himself.

I have met many people from other faiths who, realizing that they could not save themselves and yearning to find salvation, were amazingly led by God to a book, a leaflet, or an audiotape, that helped them understand how to come to God through Jesus.

Does this mean we don't need to be concerned about presenting the gospel to people?

No, it is much easier for people to believe if they have heard. God worked miraculously to bring the gospel to Cornelius (Acts 10). So too He will work for those who are willing to give up all ideas of saving themselves and look to Him alone for salvation.

Prayer:

O Father, what a glimpse this gives me of Your eagerness to save all that will come to You through Your Son. May this inspire me more than ever to do my part in making Your gospel known. In Christ's Name I pray. Amen.

For further study:

John 6:47-69;Ephesians 2:19-21;1 Peter 2:6;

John 6:47-69 (New International Version)

47I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life.

48I am the bread of life.


49Your forefathers ate the manna in the desert, yet they died.

50But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which a man may eat and not die.

51I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."

52Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"

53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

55For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.

56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him.

57Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.

58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever."


59He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.

Many Disciples Desert Jesus

60On hearing it, many of his disciples said, "This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?"

61Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, "Does this offend you?

62What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!

63The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit[a] and they are life.

64Yet there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him.

65He went on to say, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him."

66From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

67"You do not want to leave too, do you?" Jesus asked the Twelve.

68Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69We believe and know that you are the Holy One of God."

Ephesians 2:19-21 (New International Version)


19Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household,

20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.

21In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord.

1 Peter 2:6 (New International Version)


6For in Scripture it says:

"See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a chosen and precious cornerstone,
and the one who trusts in him shall never be put to shame"



1. What was Peter's conclusion?
2. How did Paul describe Christ?
 
This fits in well here too:-


My Answer: Can You Prove the Existence of God?
Billy Graham

Q: Can you prove the existence of God? I admire people who take their religion seriously (especially when they try to help others and live a good life). But I can't have their faith in God or believe in something I can't prove. - K.G.Y.

A: Have you ever asked yourself how many times you act on faith every day? The truth is, we live by faith all the time, and without faith it would be impossible to live. Let me explain.

For example, right now you are probably sitting in a chair as you read this newspaper. But did you inspect the chair before you sat down, or did you first send it away to a laboratory to be tested?

No, of course not. You believed it would hold you, probably because it's done so many times before, and you've seen it hold other people also. And yet you acted by faith when you sat in the chair. At the same time, it wasn't unreasonable for you to do so.

Faith in God is something like this.

Faith in God isn't blind or unreasonable, because God has left His "footprints" all around us.

As the Bible says, "Since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made" (Romans 1:20).

It's far more reasonable to believe in God than to believe this incredibly intricate universe just happened.

But the most compelling evidence for God is this: He became a man! That man was Jesus, who was God in human flesh.

Do you want to know what God is like? Look at Jesus Christ as He is presented in the pages of the New Testament. I promise that if you do this with an open heart and mind, your life will never be the same.

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Send your queries to "My Answer," c/o Billy Graham, Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, 1 Billy Graham Parkway, Charlotte, N.C., 28201; call 1-(877) 2-GRAHAM, or visit the Web site for the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association: http://www.billygraham.org.
 
christianbear said:
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What about the Jews? They don't belive in Jesus, but they are the chosing people. So does that mean that the bible is wrong? :angel:
But even the Jews have to come to know Jesus as the Messiah in order to be saved.
 
sisterchristian said:
But even the Jews have to come to know Jesus as the Messiah in order to be saved.
... and many of them will because God has predetermined a portion of them to salvation. The problem is; no one, including them, know who "they" are, so in effect, you are correct. They shouldn't roll the dice, thinking "they" are those "Chosen Ones". ;-)
 
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