[_ Old Earth _] Are We Alone in the Universe?

[bibleberean]

Do you think there is life on other planets?

Are we alone?

What do you think?

 

[bibleberean]

What About ETIs?
Author: Dave Hunt
Publication Date: 4/1/1995



"Many deceptive lies are instilled in the minds of today's youth via schools, literature, films and television. Popular delusions abound which deny God and the gospel of Jesus Christ. Two are now held generally worldwide: 1) evolution (taught as fact in public schools); and its corollary, 2) the existence of intelligent life on other planets. If life evolved on earth by chance, then why not elsewhere? The possibility that some beings may even possess science and technology far beyond ours is extremely exciting to mankind: we're not alone in the universe...

...Serious international efforts have been underway for years to contact extraterrestrial intelligences (ETIs). In the US the program is titled Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI). Many nations pour huge investments into sending radio signals into space and listening for some coherent message in return. The Voyager spacecraft, which by now may have left our solar system to probe deeper into space, carried this message on a gold record affixed to its exterior which, it was hoped, some friendly life might encounter and as a result contact earth in reply:

"We cast this message into the cosmos...this is a present from a small, distant world....We hope someday, having solved the problems we face, to join a community of galactic civilizations." [signed] Jimmy Carter, president of the USA, June 16, 1977...

Any possibility that intelligent life on earth or elsewhere evolved by chance can be quickly dismissed. Eminent British astronomer SirFred Hoyle points out that "even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup" from which life is made, the chance of producing the basic enzymes of life by random processes without intelligent direction would be approximately one in 10 with 40,000 zeros after it. The impossibility of that number can be seen in the following illustration. The likelihood of reaching out and by chance plucking a particular atom out of the universe would be about 1 in 10 with 80 zeros after it. If every atom in this universe became another universe, the chance of reaching out at random and plucking a particular atom out of all of those universes would be 1 in 10 with 160 zeros after it.

Hoyle then explains why this completely impossible theory is still honored, and accuses the evolutionists of self-interest, unfair pressure, and dishonesty:


This [mathematical impossibility] is well known to geneticists and yet nobody seems to blow the whistle decisively on the theory...because of its grip on the educational system....You either have to believe the concepts, or you will be branded a heretic.4

Read full article here...

http://www.thebereancall.org/Newsletter ... /7367.aspx

 

[cubedbee]

I don't believe we are. The universe simply seems to large for God to have created it solely for us. There are only several thousand stars viewable from Earth with the naked eye---however through telescopes we have discovered literally billions more that can't be seen otherwise. Moreover, we are now discovering planets orbiting around distant stars. If the universe was solely for us, and stars solely for our observation, it seems odd that stars would have planets.

The existence of other life in the universe raises a lot of interesting theological questions. Do they have free will? Did they experience a fall of their own? If so, did Jesus atone for their sins, or did God's Word become incarnate as their species in order to atone for them? Does God allow different planets to interact, or as he selectively placed civilizations far enough apart that they will be isolated for the whole of their existence?

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

In all likelihood there is life on other worlds.

 

[ThinkerMan]

While I think it's highly likely that life exists apart from the earth (possibly even within our own solar system), I think the odds are mimimal that intellegent life exists in the vicinity of Earth capable of contacting us.

Having a "conversation" with any of these civilizations is pretty much out of the question. There are only about 25 stars within 15 light years.

That would take 30 years to say..

"How are you?"

"Good, thanks."

It's slighly more likely that we could incept some intellegent signal from somewhere in the cosmos, but we almost certainly could never respond to it.

I don't see any way to "travel" to other places, thus I don't believe in UFO's, etc.

 

[Guest]

While I think it's highly likely that life exists apart from the earth (possibly even within our own solar system), I think the odds are mimimal that intellegent life exists in the vicinity of Earth capable of contacting us.

Having a "conversation" with any of these civilizations is pretty much out of the question. There are only about 25 stars within 15 light years.

That would take 30 years to say..

"How are you?"

"Good, thanks."

It's slighly more likely that we could incept some intellegent signal from somewhere in the cosmos, but we almost certainly could never respond to it.

I don't see any way to "travel" to other places, thus I don't believe in UFO's, etc.

I agree with you in the fact that stars are too far away to travel to.

 

[mh13]

I don't think that there is life outside of earth. BUT, the Bible is silent on the issue, so if there is other life, it wouldn't make the Bible untrue.

I think most of the alien abduction ufo business is satanic. I think it is Genesis chapter 6 re-visited in a different form. Jesus said that as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the son of man be...
Here are a couple of intersting links. USE YOUR OWN DISCERNMENT. You have to be careful with "christian" sites dealing with UFO related things. I only recommend these sites because they are interesting, and do not necessarily endorse anything related to doctrine

http://www.returnofthenephilim.com
http://www.uforanks.com

 

[keebs]

I partially agree with you mhess...I don't believe in alien abductions or anything of the sort, although I do believe in life on other planets.

 

[bibleberean]

I don't believe there is life on other planets.

The reason I believe this is because of the account in Genesis.

God created everything in 6 days. The stars were created on the fourth day.

Why then did God create such a huge Universe?

1 Kings 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?

For His glory. Man can look for ever and never find the end of the heavens.

God is awesome!

Psalms 19:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

 

[Blazin Bones]

While I think it's highly likely that life exists apart from the earth (possibly even within our own solar system), I think the odds are mimimal that intellegent life exists in the vicinity of Earth capable of contacting us.

Having a "conversation" with any of these civilizations is pretty much out of the question. There are only about 25 stars within 15 light years.

That would take 30 years to say..

"How are you?"

"Good, thanks."

It's slighly more likely that we could incept some intellegent signal from somewhere in the cosmos, but we almost certainly could never respond to it.

I don't see any way to "travel" to other places, thus I don't believe in UFO's, etc.

I agree with you in the fact that stars are too far away to travel to.

Alright, who's the guest? This is the third guest who I don't think meant to be a guest of the night?

 

[keebs]

I was under the impression they were all bibleberean (I'm not quite positive though).

 

[Featherbop]

Life on other planets? Yeah, definately. Just no little green men. :wink:

 

[bibleberean]

While I think it's highly likely that life exists apart from the earth (possibly even within our own solar system), I think the odds are mimimal that intellegent life exists in the vicinity of Earth capable of contacting us.

Having a "conversation" with any of these civilizations is pretty much out of the question. There are only about 25 stars within 15 light years.

That would take 30 years to say..

"How are you?"

"Good, thanks."

It's slighly more likely that we could incept some intellegent signal from somewhere in the cosmos, but we almost certainly could never respond to it.

I don't see any way to "travel" to other places, thus I don't believe in UFO's, etc.

I agree with you in the fact that stars are too far away to travel to.

Alright, who's the guest? This is the third guest who I don't think meant to be a guest of the night?

Sorry,

I am the "guest". I must have not signed in. This is the second time this has happened to me.

At least that I know of... :-?

I didn't see that the post said guest until now...

 

[Joeri]

there is life on other planets.

 

[keebs]

Proof? Or is this just mere speculation? The only evidence I've ever seen for life on other planets was also discovered after it could have been possibly tainted...

 

[Guest]

8-) The life on other planets would most likely be demons.
Fallen Angels could also possibly be there on the planets too?
God knows where they go.

 

[Joeri]

Proof? Or is this just mere speculation? The only evidence I've ever seen for life on other planets was also discovered after it could have been possibly tainted...

some christians visions and near death experiences.

 

[phatdawg]

Larry Norman once said (30 years ago):

And if there's life on other planets,
then I'm sure that he must know,
and He's been there once already,
and had died to save their soul.

Excellent song, btw.
UFO by Larry Norman
from "In Another Land"

 

[IndianaEnoch]

Larry Norman once said (30 years ago):

And if there's life on other planets,
then I'm sure that he must know,
and He's been there once already,
and had died to save their soul.

Excellent song, btw.
UFO by Larry Norman
from "In Another Land"

Just look at that avitar of phatty and tell me there is not alien life.


C.S.Lewis ask if ther eis life on another planet, why would they need to be saved? THey may not be fallen.

 

[Guest]

some christians visions and near death experiences.

And that proves life on other planets how?