Are you a thinker or a doer?

[God's_gift]

I have so many thoughts in my head but most of them are lost before I put them to keys. I guess this makes me a thinker. Moses was a man of action that makes him a doer. How about you?

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I think I'm a doer.

 

[Ambrose]

Im more a thinker, I am trying to change that and put them into motion, But right now that just isn't happening at the scale i would like, My wild imagination goes all over the place. I'll create a whole alternate reality in my head in a few seconds and then wonder in it for hours. Or a creation, Then wonder there for hours.

 

[sesantek]

I have so many thoughts in my head but most of them are lost before I put them to keys. I guess this makes me a thinker. Moses was a man of action that makes him a doer. How about you?

I am both. You must think and do. If you don't do after thinking, you will not get anywhere. I always write the products of my thinking down in a special note I tagged, IDEA BOOK. So that I won't forget and I can work on them in the future.

 

[stovebolts]

I would say that as I get older, I'm more of a thinker!

When I was younger, I just went out and did, so I was more of a doer. No obstacle was too big or challenging and I figured I'd make my way though it one way or the other... as long as I kept pushing forward.

What I'm finding, is that there has to be a balance, and when one finds that balance, then the scriptures are harmonized. Let me explain.

Deuteronomy 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

We are commanded to love the LORD.
But love is more than an emotion, it's a reflection from many different attributes (1 Cor 13).

We are to love the LORD with all our heart. The ancients believed that the heart is where one's intellect sat, and emotions were in the bowels. So we must love the lord with the way we think. Loving the Lord isn't throwing our intellect away because we are told to love the Lord with our intellect. So being a thinker is a good thing!

Second, we are told to love the LORD with all our soul. This denotes emotion, but specifically desire. We must desire to love the LORD. Having the desire to love the LORD is also a good thing!

Lastly we are commanded to love the LORD with all our might. This is the doing part! What we do is a reflection of what's inside of us! So we also see that what we do for the LORD is also a good thing!

So we see that alone, we can't just think about loving God and we can't just desire to do things for God... we're called into action because were commanded to do things for God!

So what if you know you should do something but you don't? Is it the absence of desire, or the absence of understanding (intellect). We have to know why in order to create the desire which results in action. Or sometimes, when we do something though obedience (which is a desire to please), then we can look back and see the why after the task, even when we initially had no desire for the task. And once we see the why, it just may stir a desire for the action, and not just obedience. In other words, obedience is good to get us to do something, but when we really understand why we are doing them, then it all comes together. You can create your own scenarios and you'll see that where one attribute of loving the LORD is weak, it can be picked up in another area, and that calls for balance.

These three ways of loving the LORD, when working in harmony help us to grow, and I think that's why God commanded us to love him in that manner.

.02

 

[Davies]

Jesus was a thinker and a doer.

- Davies

 

[Navigator]

I think I'm a doer.

 

[AirDancer]

I'm both a thinker and a doer, each in their own time.

After all, Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8 tells us:

<SUP id=en-NASB-17361 class=versenum>1</SUP> There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a <SUP class=xref value='(A)'></SUP>time for every <SUP class=footnote value='[a]'>[a]</SUP>event under heaven—
<SUP id=en-NASB-17362 class=versenum>2</SUP> A time to give birth and a <SUP class=xref value='(B)'></SUP>time to die;
A time to plant and a time to uproot what is planted.
<SUP id=en-NASB-17363 class=versenum>3</SUP> A <SUP class=xref value='(C)'></SUP>time to kill and a time to heal;
A time to tear down and a time to build up.
<SUP id=en-NASB-17364 class=versenum>4</SUP> A time to <SUP class=xref value='(D)'></SUP>weep and a time to <SUP class=xref value='(E)'></SUP>laugh;
A time to mourn and a time to <SUP class=xref value='(F)'></SUP>dance.
<SUP id=en-NASB-17365 class=versenum>5</SUP> A time to throw stones and a time to gather stones;
A time to embrace and a time to shun embracing.
<SUP id=en-NASB-17366 class=versenum>6</SUP> A time to search and a time to give up as lost;
A time to keep and a time to throw away.
<SUP id=en-NASB-17367 class=versenum>7</SUP> A time to tear apart and a time to sew together;
A time to <SUP class=xref value='(G)'></SUP>be silent and a time to speak.
<SUP id=en-NASB-17368 class=versenum>8</SUP> A time to love and a time to <SUP class=xref value='(H)'></SUP>hate;
A time for war and a time for peace.

(NASB)

 

[tim-from-pa]

There's nothing wrong with being a doer, as long as it's followed by thinking. Too many believe in the adages "think on your feet" or "don't let the grass grow under your feet". Nice way to entertain the same adages such as "put your foot in your mouth", and "speak (or do) before you think". That's not efficiency, but impulsiveness and leads to nothing but trouble, not to mention looking unstable and suggestible.

 

[Davies]

There's nothing wrong with being a doer, as long as it's followed by thinking. Too many believe in the adages "think on your feet" or "don't let the grass grow under your feet". Nice way to entertain the same adages such as "put your foot in your mouth", and "speak (or do) before you think". That's not efficiency, but impulsiveness and leads to nothing but trouble, not to mention looking unstable and suggestible.

Hi tim-from-pa,

If you don't want to be impulsive, then you should probably switch the order. We should think before we do.

- Davies:yes

 

[stovebolts]

Hi tim-from-pa,

If you don't want to be impulsive, then you should probably switch the order. We should think before we do.

- Davies:yes

ha ha! I caught that too

Think before you jump... that's what Dad used to tell me growing up. I've seen people over think things though, and end up doing absolutely nothing. Sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than it is permission...

But then, I've seen people do, and never come back to the thinking part, so they never get that hindsight...

Why are we as humans so complicated?

 

[jasoncran]

jeff that is a saying in the army and that is where one needs to acccomplish the mission and has to break regs that are minor to get the job done.

 

[tim-from-pa]

Hi tim-from-pa,

If you don't want to be impulsive, then you should probably switch the order. We should think before we do.

- Davies:yes

That's what I was saying. It's my grammar again. Let me repost the old sentence and then rephrase what I meant:

OLD QUOTE: There's nothing wrong with being a doer, as long as it's followed by thinking.

Improved new quote: There's nothing wrong with being a doer, as long as the doing follows the thinking.

I meant to say that the thinking must come first, but I can see now how my wording actually sounded the opposite. Mi culpa. :D

 

[Davies]

One of the reasons why I chose to say Jesus was a thinker and a doer is because it is His righteousness that has been given to me. I think this sets the tone for proper conviction when I fall short, and provides for me the motivation to love God and to do good deeds.

If we focus too much on how we think too much and we don't do enough, well, who can do enough? The desire to do for God is a wonderful gift as long as the motivation is not to lift oneself up, and our natural tendencies haven't gone away.

- Davies

 

[farouk]

I'm both a thinker and a doer, each in their own time.

After all, Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8 tells us:

<sup id="en-NASB-17361" class="versenum">1</sup> There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a <sup class="xref" value="(<a href=&quot;http://www.christianforums.net/#cen-NASB-17361A&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;>A</a>)"></sup>time for every <sup class="footnote" value="[<a href=&quot;http://www.christianforums.net/#fen-NASB-17361a&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;>a</a>]">[a]</sup>event under heaven—
<sup id="en-NASB-17362" class="versenum">2</sup> A time to give birth and a <sup class="xref" value="(<a href=&quot;http://www.christianforums.net/#cen-NASB-17362B&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;>B</a>)"></sup>time to die;
A time to plant and a time to uproot what is planted.
<sup id="en-NASB-17363" class="versenum">3</sup> A <sup class="xref" value="(<a href=&quot;http://www.christianforums.net/#cen-NASB-17363C&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;>C</a>)"></sup>time to kill and a time to heal;
A time to tear down and a time to build up.
<sup id="en-NASB-17364" class="versenum">4</sup> A time to <sup class="xref" value="(<a href=&quot;http://www.christianforums.net/#cen-NASB-17364D&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;>D</a>)"></sup>weep and a time to <sup class="xref" value="(<a href=&quot;http://www.christianforums.net/#cen-NASB-17364E&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;>E</a>)"></sup>laugh;
A time to mourn and a time to <sup class="xref" value="(<a href=&quot;http://www.christianforums.net/#cen-NASB-17364F&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;>F</a>)"></sup>dance.
<sup id="en-NASB-17365" class="versenum">5</sup> A time to throw stones and a time to gather stones;
A time to embrace and a time to shun embracing.
<sup id="en-NASB-17366" class="versenum">6</sup> A time to search and a time to give up as lost;
A time to keep and a time to throw away.
<sup id="en-NASB-17367" class="versenum">7</sup> A time to tear apart and a time to sew together;
A time to <sup class="xref" value="(<a href=&quot;http://www.christianforums.net/#cen-NASB-17367G&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;>G</a>)"></sup>be silent and a time to speak.
<sup id="en-NASB-17368" class="versenum">8</sup> A time to love and a time to <sup class="xref" value="(<a href=&quot;http://www.christianforums.net/#cen-NASB-17368H&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;>H</a>)"></sup>hate;
A time for war and a time for peace.

(NASB)

AD:

This is a very searching passage, highs and lows, tragedies and triumphs: all characterize the life of faith.

I like Ecclesiastes; it's such a thought-provoking book. Really, it all comes back to James's definition of faith being shown by works, rather than works being the supposed means to achieve some satisfactory state of faith.

 

[Pard]

Ima "donk"... or maybe Ima d "thoe"... Or maybe I just think what I do and do what I think!