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Yaacova said:
YESHUA said:
Yaacova said:
To Muhsen: First of all did you have a question?
Second of all are you Jewish and what makes it right for you to make a list of all, I won't call them lies and I won't call them sins either. It's just a list. The Talmud is not the Torah. Jews don't study the Talmud for examples about how Jews should live, that's the Torah. The Talmud is only a bunch of stories with criticizm and commentary.

If these things were true, everyone makes mistakes, and everyone sins. The Jews were alive for millions of years, and if those were our only sins, that's pretty darn good. I'm not saying sin is good, I'm saying If you want to make a list of a cultures history, maybe you need help from someone from that culture.

Most of the examples in there are not bad. No, a Rabbi cannot go to Hell, maybe if he's really corrupt, but no he cannot. Jews don't even believe in a hell, so why would we go there? And a Rabbi debates G-d? Why do you have that in there? He won, that's a good thing.

How about when scientists can convice everyone that evolution, or some other theory other than G-d did it, will you call the bible a liar? Would you order it burned?

If all your trying to do is tell me what I already know, don't post here. But if you have a question, I'll be glad to help. But that doesn't make Jews bad people, and you know it. I won't defend myself in my own thread, I won't go that low.
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Shalom Yacoova
And welcome please don't mind Mushen he just can't help it he is from palestine (the never land) and if he could he probably would blow you to pieces. Have you read the Tanak? do you understand ivrit? do you live in Yisrael or abroad I have a lot to ask you but right now I have to go to church so I will ask you later
l'hitraot
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I haven't read the whole Torah, but I have read from it in services, I am up to 14 portions of the Torah and heading torwards 15.

I do speak hebrew, (not very well) but I have never been to Israel. Our temple has planned a trip in the year 2007 for 3 weeks for anyone who is willing to pay.
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Isaiah 53

1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Could you explain to me who this is?
Is this the Muslim Messiah? Or the Jewish Messiah? Or as the orthodox claims Yisrael
 
It's talking like it was in the past, so I would say it was anybodys "Messiah" other than the people who think the Messiah hasn't come yet.
 
YESHUA said:
If these things were true, everyone makes mistakes, and everyone sins. The Jews were alive for millions of years, and if those were our only sins, that's pretty darn good. I'm not saying sin is good, I'm saying If you want to make a list of a cultures history, maybe you need help from someone from that culture.
Just how do you know that the Jews have been around for millions of years?
Sorry 'bout that, not millions, thousands.

Most of the examples in there are not bad. No, a Rabbi cannot go to Hell, maybe if he's really corrupt, but no he cannot. Jews don't even believe in a hell, so why would we go there? And a Rabbi debates G-d? Why do you have that in there? He won, that's a good thing.
Yes a Rabbi can go to hell do you think that being a Rabbi place him above the law?
What does the law have anything to do with hell?

How about when scientists can convice everyone that evolution, or some other theory other than G-d did it, will you call the bible a liar? Would you order it burned?
As folktales and morals. They are just stories, thats's waht the Torah is. Jews take it literally enough to get the piont these stories are getting.

You called the Bible a story book your self why? Because everyone can relate themselves to the Torah. If the Torah is just a book filed with stories why don't just read Hans Christian Andersen it would be more rewarding wouldn't it? It would be more rewarding if you never ead the Torah, or the bible. I really don't understand Jews they have the Torah the Eretz Yisrael and guess what their are willing to give it to their enemies lock, stock and barrel, they gave birth to Jesus the greatest man ever to be born and HE brought salvation to this dying world, and now look what is going on in the land of your ancestor Your right, if he was the Messiah, why would there be termoil in Israel?

You have heard about the birthright trip to Yisrael? Its called b'nai something I really can't remember other than it was something about birthright that gave you a free trip to Yisrael hoping that you would make aliyah.
What would it take for you to make aliyah? I hope that you don't live in N.Y.C because next year the possibility of an attack is every real.
And I will ask you to tell me something if you would of course.
Do you believe that the book of David is a story as well? And what about Isaiah, Jeremiah and Daniel are those just stories as well? If this is the case then you don't have any claim to Eretz Yisrael and just as well you don't live there. But we still do......:roll:
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA the greatest man ever to have been born by a Jewish mother Miriam.
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Why do Jews believe that Jesus Christ wasn't the Messaih and that the Messaih hasn't come yet?
 
Yaacova said:
It's talking like it was in the past, so I would say it was anybodys "Messiah" other than the people who think the Messiah hasn't come yet.
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Really and just who would this anybodys Messiah be? I really feel sorry for you but somehow I also understand you and your people because I have Jewish ancestor. It would be hard to embrace Jesus because Jews have been killed for nearly 2000 years in HIS NAME, so why would you believe that HE really is the promised ONE but believe me one day you and not only you but the whole world will se HIM and thats a fact, and you are aware of the Jews for Jesus? And also Jews for Allah?
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA the Holy One and the Only One
 
YESHUA said:
Yaacova said:
It's talking like it was in the past, so I would say it was anybodys "Messiah" other than the people who think the Messiah hasn't come yet.
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Really and just who would this anybodys Messiah be? I really feel sorry for you but somehow I also understand you and your people because I have Jewish ancestor. It would be hard to embrace Jesus because Jews have been killed for nearly 2000 years in HIS NAME, so why would you believe that HE really is the promised ONE but believe me one day you and not only you but the whole world will se HIM and thats a fact, and you are aware of the Jews for Jesus? And also Jews for Allah?
Shalom and love in the name of YESHUA the Holy One and the Only One
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First of all "Jews for Jesus and "Jews for Allah" don't have anything to do with Judaism, they totally contradict what Judaism teaches! They are totally diferent religions altogether. And how can you say after (hopefully) reading that link that yuo can possibly imagine Jews believing in Jesus?

It is important to understand that Jesus is simply not a part of Judaism. He is irrelevant to our religion. To ask a Jew, "why don't you believe in Jesus?" is like asking a Christian, "why don't you believe in Zeus?"
 
I must say, after reading that about why Jews believe Jesus wasn't the Messiah. I really must say it scares me, ebcause, alot fo what said the Messaih will be, is alot of what i've been taught the Anti-Christ will be.

That's just my opnion
 
Archon of Orthodoxy said:
Jesus was a Jew.

What about Messanic Judaism?
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It's the same as Jews for Jesus, they believe Jesus was the Messiah and so do Messianic Jews.
 
Archon of Orthodoxy said:
Jesus was a Jew. Just because a Jew kills a guy doesn't mean other Jews should do the same.....

What about Messanic Judaism?
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Julian Pyke said:
I must say, after reading that about why Jews believe Jesus wasn't the Messiah. I really must say it scares me, ebcause, alot fo what said the Messaih will be, is alot of what i've been taught the Anti-Christ will be.

That's just my opnion
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What exactly is the "anti-christ" and what were you taught about it?
 
Do Jews spend a lot of time pointing fingers at eachother and accusing each other of not being Jewish enough? I see a lot of Christians doing this.
 
Which a lot of Christians should be doing a lot less of. Once you are saved, you are just as Christian as the next guy/gal. Christianity is not a video game where we have different levels of Salvation. However, the Bible also teaches us to rebuke our brothers out of love.
 
philbo said:
Do Jews spend a lot of time pointing fingers at eachother and accusing each other of not being Jewish enough? I see a lot of Christians doing this.
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No, we do however spend a lot of time arguing different Jewish idaes.
 
That sounds like a more intellectual style of discussion. I'm tempted to find a Jewish online board just so I can be more intellectually stimulated. I'd love to be invited to dinner with your family sometime, for the great food and conversation.
 
Yaacova, read Revelations. It will help in understanding what I said.
 
Julian Pyke said:
That site isn't any help to me, can YOU tell em why they don't believe Jesus is the Messaih? Or at least go find teh answer and copy and paste it.
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Sure, it was just easier giving you a site, but o well. :roll:

The reason that I don't believe Jesus was the savior is because he didn't fulfill or fit the description of what the Messiah is supposed to be in Torah. The Torah never said anything about Jesus or restated what the Messiah was supposed to be, and that is what I believe to be true.

I pretty much summed up the site because that particular explanation (I'm not just being lazy) on that site, really expressed my view on this topic. Not everything on the site I believe, that's why I just don't give everyone that site if they have questions.
 
Julian Pyke said:
Yaacova, read Revelations. It will help in understanding what I said.
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I want YOU to tell me what it is, then I'll read Revelations
 
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