Backslidden - yet anointed.

[Classik]

Can a Christian's anointing still manifest in him when he is backslidden?

Samson slept with a whore and the next moment he fought against his enemies and his anointing was still on him and he defeated his enemies. So the anointing was still on him, right? See Judges 16

 

[Willie T]

Didn't you just answer your own question?

 

[reba]

 

[iLOVE]

For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION."

"Our power is based on God favor"

Joanh ran from God. Even though they may backslide the scripture says, "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm."

 

[jasonc]

Jonah was swallowed by the big fish, and even then he wasn't really happy that god showed mercy to the ninevites

 

[Classik]

Didn't you just answer your own question?

It is quite strange. This anointing is the Spirit of God. How can the Spirit of God dwell in a filthy temple? Can it?

 

[iLOVE]

It is quite strange. This anointing is the Spirit of God. How can the Spirit of God dwell in a filthy temple? Can it?

The story of Saul and David:

14 David asked him, “Why weren’t you afraid to lift your hand to destroy the Lord’s anointed?”
15 Then David called one of his men and said, “Go, strike him down!” So he struck him down, and he died. 16 For David had said to him, “Your blood be on your own head. Your own mouth testified against you when you said, ‘I killed the Lord’s anointed.’” 2 Samuel 1:14-16 NIV

Note: Even though the Holy Spirit had left Saul he was God's anointed.

 

[Classik]

The story of Saul and David:

14 David asked him, “Why weren’t you afraid to lift your hand to destroy the Lord’s anointed?”
15 Then David called one of his men and said, “Go, strike him down!” So he struck him down, and he died. 16 For David had said to him, “Your blood be on your own head. Your own mouth testified against you when you said, ‘I killed the Lord’s anointed.’” 2 Samuel 1:14-16 NIV

Note: Even though the Holy Spirit had left Saul he was God's anointed.

Yes. He really was. Maybe I need to reiterate the question.

Can the gift of God e.g prophesy, power, healing, etc exist in a backslidden man? Samson's case is quite strange

 

[iLOVE]

Yes. He really was. Maybe I need to reiterate the question.

Can the gift of God e.g prophesy, power, healing, etc exist in a backslidden man? Samson's case is quite strange

100% yes!!!!!!

Jesus used the testimony of a man that had over 6,000 demons in him (legions) to show his goodness and mercy. The scripture says that he went to ten cities telling everyone about Jesus. And the scriptures says they were amazed.

There is no testimony without a test. For a righteous man falls seven times, and rises again,
But the wicked stumble in time of calamity.

 

[Willie T]

Classik,
Apart from Jesus, are we not just what Isaiah 64:6 says we are? Then if a "gift" or anointing is in, or on, ANY person, it is in, or on, a sinful person.

And, does the Bible say Christ leaves us because we sin? No, it doesn't. So, "backslidden" (whatever THAT is) or not, Jesus is still with us.

Are you somehow under the impression that we earn anointing?

 

[Classik]

Earn? Everything is freely given.

But I'm just surprised that God's Spirit can still live in such vessels. I have never heard anything like it all my life.

Maybe I need more bible verses on this topic

 

[iLOVE]

Earn? Everything is freely given.

But I'm just surprised that God's Spirit can still live in such vessels. I have never heard anything like it all my life.

Maybe I need more bible verses on this topic

31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? 33 Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; 34 who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was [l]raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. 35 Who will separate us from the love of [m]Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36 Just as it is written, For Your sake we are being put to death all day long;
We were considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:31-39 NASB

 

[Kathi]

Can a Christian's anointing still manifest in him when he is backslidden?

Samson slept with a whore and the next moment he fought against his enemies and his anointing was still on him and he defeated his enemies. So the anointing was still on him, right? See Judges 16

Are you asking if the Holy Spirit is still within a person if they have walked away from God after asking Jesus into their life?

 

[Obadiah]

...Can the gift of God e.g prophesy, power, healing, etc exist in a backslidden man?...

Or perhaps is the issue that the "backslidden" person no longer chooses to use, or no longer has faith in their gift as a result of their backslidden condition?

 

[Obadiah]

Are you asking if the Holy Spirit is still within a person if they have walked away from God after asking Jesus into their life?

Granted, I wasn't the one asking... But if Jesus is still in them and has not left them, and if Jesus, the Father, and the Spirit are a one triune God, then wouldn't this mean the Spirit would still be in them as well? Maybe quenched and unused, but still there?

 

[Kathi]

You have to look at Once Saved Always Saved.Some people do not believe in that.But then you need to look at if a person was really saved to begin with. I believe that some of the people who have bad slidden will get to heaven.They may lose all their rewards but.....they are in heaven.

 

[Obadiah]

Yeah, I wasn't wanting to turn this into another 100 page debate over OSAS. I took the term "backslidden" to mean a Christian who is temporarily caught up in something that is pulling them away from their relationship to God. Whether it be some sort of sinful activity causing it, or even just having their priorities in the wrong place for a time. That's what the term has always meant among Christians I've been around. I didn't take it to mean a person who had willfully and purposely rejected Christ. I think even those who are strong detractors of the OSAS position would still agree that temporary sin or wrong priorities that harms our relationship with God still doesn't cause us to lose our salvation.

 

[Kathi]

Yeah, I wasn't wanting to turn this into another 100 page debate over OSAS. I took the term "backslidden" to mean a Christian who is temporarily caught up in something that is pulling them away from their relationship to God. Whether it be some sort of sinful activity causing it, or even just having their priorities in the wrong place for a time. That's what the term has always meant among Christians I've been around. I didn't take it to mean a person who had willfully and purposely rejected Christ. I think even those who are strong detractors of the OSAS position would still agree that temporary sin or wrong priorities that harms our relationship with God still doesn't cause us to lose our salvation.

I agree.

 

[Deborah13]

Earn? Everything is freely given.

But I'm just surprised that God's Spirit can still live in such vessels. I have never heard anything like it all my life.

Maybe I need more bible verses on this topic

David had committed adultery and murder when he said these words to God.

Psa 51:1 To the Overseer. --A Psalm of David, in the coming in unto him of Nathan the prophet, when he hath gone in unto Bath-Sheba. Favour me, O God, according to Thy kindness, According to the abundance of Thy mercies, Blot out my transgressions.

Psa 51:9 Hide Thy face from my sin. And all mine iniquities blot out.
Psa 51:10 A clean heart prepare for me, O God, And a right spirit renew within me.
Psa 51:11 Cast me not forth from Thy presence, And Thy Holy Spirit take not from me.

 

[Classik]

Are you asking if the Holy Spirit is still within a person if they have walked away from God after asking Jesus into their life?

Somewhat - yeah