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Bad Logic

PotLuck said:
Well, if this argument has anything to do with sexual morality all bets are off concerning logic. Even hard truths, facts and just plain common sense don't seem to have much effect to slow the ever-broadening envelope of tolerance.
How far can it go? Even the proponents of certain sexual tolerance today have some form of sexual morality they live by. That doesn't mean sexual tolerance will stop there once the particular sexual freedom advocated is attained. There will always be people wanting more and fighting hard, doing everything and saying anything to get it.
We sow what we reap. What we plant today will produce fruit tomorrow. If the fruit doesn't turn out as expected, well, that's too bad. Social engineering is a risky business at best yet we're willing to gamble the future to get what we want today. And the odds are always against us.


Yes, I agree PotLuck, It's all risky business, and the odds are always against those who are so very far out of line with the will of God.

There is nothing new about those rebels, they ignore history and say the consequences aren't true for them. :-?


However, we all know the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.


Exodus 34:7
Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

Judges 2:10
And also all that generation were gathered unto their fathers: and there arose another generation after them, which knew not the LORD, nor yet the works which he had done for Israel.


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Deuteronomy 32:5
They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation.

Numbers 32:13
"So the LORD'S anger burned against Israel, and He made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until the entire generation of those who had done evil in the sight of the LORD was destroyed.




Folly of the Godless, and God's Final Triumph

Psalm 14:1-7
1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. 2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. 3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD. 5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous. 6 Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the LORD is his refuge. 7 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.


Laws are harsh! And so, Praise God, we have our Holy redeemer Christ Jesus to come and Save us from committing to sin! He is our only Salvation from sin. We all need to hope and have faith in the working power of the Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus. It is only by way of the Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus that sin will be no more.

Workers of iniquity are those who are the "children of men".
All Christians must die to the flesh, and strive to live in the Spirit of Christ Jesus in order to become "children of God".
Those who live in the Spirit of Christ Jesus do not live in the flesh by the dictates of the flesh, they then are no longer children of men, but children of God. It is only through the power of the Holy Spirit through Christ Jesus that we overcome the world.
And Jesus says,' Go and Sin No More'.

You are so right PotLuck... there will always be those who lobby for unrighteous causes. But in the end of the world as we know it, they will not be the victorious. The Triumph will belong to only God.

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Solo said:
The whole argument of this debate disappears into the wasteland of wood, hay, and stubble when one recognizes that in the flesh dwells no good thing, and anything feeding the flesh over and above the word of God is a futile attempt to satisfy pleasure as opposed to the will of God in one's life.

None of this is, however, surprising as many only know the one-sided natural man perspective.

Amen, So true, Solo!
 
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ChristineES said:
I have heard the argument used with drugs, particularly marijuana, "make it legal, people will use it anyway". The logic doesn't work for me since "everyone" doing something does not mean it is moral.

Try using murder, rape, and other heinous crimes in place of stealing chocolate and you will definately see the problem with this argument.

It worked for alcohol
 
PotLuck said:
Drug sales, prostitution, etc.
Both parties consent but it's illegal to do so.

Sarcasm detected & appreciated, P-L! :wink:

Ian :-D
 
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