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Baptism, what does the Bible teach?

Hobie

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Since Jesus is the way the truth and the life, obviously you would look at His example and His revealed will, especially on being baptized. The scriptures are our guide, and through them we can learn to follow in the footsteps of Jesus and we begin at his commision to preach the gospel to the world.

...Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved; but he that believeth not will be condemned. Mark 16:15,16

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. Mark 16:16

Baptism represents the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. As Christ died, so we must die to sin; He was buried in the tomb, so we are buried in the watery grave; He was raised from the dead, so we are to be raised in newness of life. "Know you not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death? Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." Romans 6:3,4.

Some may ask if adults were immersed, but babies sprinkled as they see it done in some churches. But infants were never baptized in any form in Biblical times, either by sprinkling, pouring, or immersion. There is no text or example that proves that sprinkling or pouring was used at any time. Immersion only was practiced as the only approved mode of baptism.

Jesus said: "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto Me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 19:14. Some persons use this text to support their views on sprinkling. But they must remember that "Jesus Himself baptized not." John 4:2 Jesus received the children "and He took them up in His arms, put His hands upon them, and blessed them." Mark 10:16. Jesus blessed the children, but did not baptize them. To pronounce a blessing on children is not to baptize them.

The word "baptism" comes from the Greek word "baptizo," which means "dip" or to "immerse;" but never to "sprinkle."

John the Baptist Prepares the Way
Matthew 3
1In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. 4And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey. 5Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, 6And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

The Baptism of Jesus
Matthew 3
13Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Note that John the Baptist did his baptizing in the river Jordan. Ever wonder why? A clue is in the definition of baptism. Here are the Greek words used in connection with baptism, from Strong's Greek dictionary:

G907. baptizo, bap-tid'-zo; from a der. of G911; to make whelmed (i.e. fully wet); used only (in the N.T.) of ceremonial ablution, espec. (techn.) of the ordinance of Chr. baptism:--baptist, baptize, wash.

G908. baptisma, bap'-tis-mah; from G907; baptism (techn. or fig.):--baptism.

G909. baptismos, bap-tis-mos'; from G907; ablution (cerem. or Chr.):--baptism, washing.

G910. Baptistes, bap-tis-tace'; from G907; a baptizer, as an epithet of Christ's forerunner:--Baptist.

G911. bapto, bap'-to; a prim. verb; to whelm, i.e. cover wholly with a fluid; in the N.T. only in a qualified or spec. sense, i.e. (lit.) to moisten (a part of one's person), or (by impl.) to stain (as with dye):--dip.

Apostolic baptism was by full immersion, and that is why John the Baptist used the river Jordan. In other words, the one being baptized was fully dunked under the water, which is clear from the Greek.
The only examples we have in the Bible of persons who were baptized were adults. Let us take a look at a few more examples of men and women who were baptized. Acts 8:12; 2:41,42.

Paul was baptized after he was converted. Acts 9:18. Of the three thousand that were baptized the record states: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." Acts 2:41,42.

There were certain disciples at Ephesus who had been baptized, but who had not received sufficient instruction. They said, "We have not so much as heard
whether there be any Holy Ghost." Then Paul reminded them of what John had said, "that they should believe on ... Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." Acts 19:2-5. Thus they were baptized again after they received sufficient instruction.

So why immersion? What is the reason for it?

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Baptism is symbolic of burial with Christ, which is the reason for full immersion, and coming up out of the water is symbolic of being raised from the dead to a new and eternal life.
 
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Hobie

Matthew 3:13-17 reveals that there are two aspects to baptism. There is water baptism and Spirit baptism.

Water baptism is a human work of human faith. One believes into Christ and one is baptized into Christ. Believing into Christ puts one in Christ as life. Water baptism into Christ identifies the believer with the death of Christ, not with the resurrection of Christ. Romans 6:1-5 says that after having died through the baptism we are to walk in newness of life. Then in the future having been buried with Christ in the likeness of his death, so also it shall be with his resurrection. We shall be resurrected in the likeness of his resurrection.

1Corinthians 12:13 reveals the reality of the aspect of Spirit baptism. Through Spirit baptism we are baptized into the Body of Christ. Spirit baptism is not for power. It is for function in the Body of Christ as expressed in the churches (1Corinthians 10-14).

Jesus was water baptized to show his sinless nature or as one who is pure and to conform to Jewish law (Exodus 30:17-21) as a part of his becoming a priest through death and resurrection, and the Spirit baptism was for the beginning of his function as a prophet, generally referred to today as his ministry. Upon the death of Jesus, the veil was rent in the sanctuary of the Temple signifying that he had begun his function as priest.

Faith into Christ, water baptism, and Spirit baptism ideally should all happen at once. But sometimes there are time differences from our perspective. From the perspective of God, who is outside of time, these matters are simultaneous. God has more patience than we do and will wait for us to catch up.

Peter in 1Peter 2:1-10 reveals that we are a priesthood functioning with Christ who is the chief priest of a priesthood in Christ. The Catholic Church misunderstood this matter and created a special priesthood. The Lord’s Table is a part of the function of the priesthood in Christ. But it’s the whole Body of Christ as it is currently represented on earth in the churches that takes part in this function with Christ. And as John reveals in John 6, if we are not a part of this function, there is no life in us. It is an important function, but not in the literal physical manner that the Catholics have interpreted. It is literal in the Spirit of God.

Are we saved by baptism? No! We are baptized, water and Spirit, into Christ. We are saved in Christ. Are we saved through our partaking of the Lord’s Table. No! Again we are saved in Christ. The Lord’s Table is a function of the ones who are in Christ. Are we humans made a alive by eating or breathing? No! We breathe and eat because we are human. And the eating an breathing is what keeps us alive. So also the Lord’s Table. It is a part of the life in Christ. Are these matters symbolism? No! They are real connections to the supernatural through the Spirit of God. The life in Christ is real life.

JamesG
 
JamesG said:
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Hobie

Matthew 3:13-17 reveals that there are two aspects to baptism. There is water baptism and Spirit baptism.

Water baptism is a human work of human faith. One believes into Christ and one is baptized into Christ. Believing into Christ puts one in Christ as life. Water baptism into Christ identifies the believer with the death of Christ, not with the resurrection of Christ. Romans 6:1-5 says that after having died through the baptism we are to walk in newness of life. Then in the future having been buried with Christ in the likeness of his death, so also it shall be with his resurrection. We shall be resurrected in the likeness of his resurrection.

1Corinthians 12:13 reveals the reality of the aspect of Spirit baptism. Through Spirit baptism we are baptized into the Body of Christ. Spirit baptism is not for power. It is for function in the Body of Christ as expressed in the churches (1Corinthians 10-14).

Jesus was water baptized to show his sinless nature or as one who is pure and to conform to Jewish law (Exodus 30:17-21) as a part of his becoming a priest through death and resurrection, and the Spirit baptism was for the beginning of his function as a prophet, generally referred to today as his ministry. Upon the death of Jesus, the veil was rent in the sanctuary of the Temple signifying that he had begun his function as priest.

Faith into Christ, water baptism, and Spirit baptism ideally should all happen at once. But sometimes there are time differences from our perspective. From the perspective of God, who is outside of time, these matters are simultaneous. God has more patience than we do and will wait for us to catch up.

Peter in 1Peter 2:1-10 reveals that we are a priesthood functioning with Christ who is the chief priest of a priesthood in Christ. The Catholic Church misunderstood this matter and created a special priesthood. The Lord’s Table is a part of the function of the priesthood in Christ. But it’s the whole Body of Christ as it is currently represented on earth in the churches that takes part in this function with Christ. And as John reveals in John 6, if we are not a part of this function, there is no life in us. It is an important function, but not in the literal physical manner that the Catholics have interpreted. It is literal in the Spirit of God.

Are we saved by baptism? No! We are baptized, water and Spirit, into Christ. We are saved in Christ. Are we saved through our partaking of the Lord’s Table. No! Again we are saved in Christ. The Lord’s Table is a function of the ones who are in Christ. Are we humans made a alive by eating or breathing? No! We breathe and eat because we are human. And the eating an breathing is what keeps us alive. So also the Lord’s Table. It is a part of the life in Christ. Are these matters symbolism? No! They are real connections to the supernatural through the Spirit of God. The life in Christ is real life.

JamesG


Hi James

There is no such thing as water baptism into Christ.

Baptism does save. Being baptized into Christ's death.
 
francisdesales said:
Mysteryman said:
There is no such thing as water baptism into Christ.

Baptism does save. Being baptized into Christ's death.

By water and the Spirit...


Born of water and Spirit

Being baptized into his death, is to be cleansed by his blood.

Baptized with the baptism of Holy Spirit and fire, gives the believer the ability to operate the nine manifestations of the Spirit.
 
Mysteryman said:
Being baptized into his death, is to be cleansed by his blood.

Baptized with the baptism of Holy Spirit and fire, gives the believer the ability to operate the nine manifestations of the Spirit.

We are linked to Christ's death BY baptism. Read Romans 6 again. Scriptures do not say we are baptised in Christ's blood. It speaks of baptism being the MEANS by which we are buried and rise with Christ. Nothing about being immersed in Christ's blood there.

Regards
 
Baptism gives us a way to act on belief, but the Holy Spirit has to bring you to it. So what does baptism really do? Can anyone, by baptizing an unwilling participant, wash away sins and save them? Are forgiveness and salvation dispensed like a commodity through a ceremony or sacrament by any church? Just how are sins, any and all sins, washed away? Just going under the water does nothing of itself as Constantine had armies walk through rivers to declare them 'baptized', but to truly be baptized does declare that we have commited our lives and accepted Christ who takes our sin away. To be baptized a sinner must be converted by the Holy Spirit of our need to confess, repent and wash away our sin in Baptism, but what happens after we are baptized, what are the practical applications? Well, the believer must be brought into harmony with God's purpose.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Jesus Christ is the only one who can cleanse us of our sins. He took our sins to the cross, and died because of them. By our faith in His atoning death, we can be saved, because His blood was shed for the specific purpose of washing away our sins. Note the sequence in the above verse. Believe and be baptized and you will be saved. Belief comes first, and then baptism.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

The act of baptism is not magical, and does not by itself cleanse anyone of sins. That is not what these verses mean. A confessed faith in the atoning death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is what really saves.

If we now re-examine the words of Mark 16:16, then the full significance of the word "baptized" becomes clear. Baptism is the symbol of the changed life. It is the symbol of rebirth, a demonstration of the death of the old man of sin and the resurrection of the transformed man - the man that lives in harmony with the law of God. Baptism is the symbol of restoration - the transformation of man from one who lives in enmity with God to one who lives in harmony with the will of God.

And be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Romans 12:2

A baby cannot decide what he will do, and bring himself to declare what he believes and follows. So, if you were baptized as an infant, or by mere sprinkling, you might want to consider being baptized in the same biblical manner as Jesus was by John, as an adult by full immersion, as an open confession of your faith before God and man that you accept the death of Jesus Christ in your place to wash away your sins, and that you lay claim to the promise of eternal life because of that faith:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Mat 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
 
Hobie said:
A baby cannot decide what he will do, and bring himself to declare what he believes and follows. So, if you were baptized as an infant, or by mere sprinkling, you might want to consider being baptized in the same biblical manner as Jesus was by John, as an adult by full immersion, as an open confession of your faith before God and man that you accept the death of Jesus Christ in your place to wash away your sins, and that you lay claim to the promise of eternal life because of that faith:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Mat 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

I always thought being baptized was being born from above. How can one affect something from above?

Baptism is a gift from above, and God's Spirit will blow where He wills, planting the seed of Grace, even within the infant child, if He so desires.

Confirmation speaks of the professing OUR OWN faith as an adult. But one is already born from above when he makes that profession.

Regards
 
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