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Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be saved and your household?

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jonahmano

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I heard a preacher quoting Acts 16:31 that if you are saved then your family will get saved and he went on to add "I don't how your family will be saved but it's written and so it will happen"

Acts 16:31
King James Version (KJV)
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

So this statement puzzled me and I came across few scriptures of what Jesus said about the family

Matthew 22
King James Version (KJV)
23The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,

24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.

25 Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother:

26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh.

27 And last of all the woman died also.

28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

The above scripture states that there is no family in heaven and also can be believed that there is no corporate salvation but salvation is on individual belief

My question is how to take Acts 16:31? Can we assume that when a person is saved, the grace is poured upon the whole family of the person and they get saved after they believe and get baptized?

Or is there another meaning of the scripture?

Hope your thoughts will be benefited to all. Please do share your views

 
Somewhere in the new testament letters it says the family members of a believer are sanctified by them.

Ah here we go 1 Corinthians 7:14

Maybe your faith can cover your whole family or maybe not, but it's good to hope that god can do more for us than our pithy beliefs demand.
 
it is also written that members of your family may be your worse enemy if you are immersed in Yeshua.
and brother will put brother to death,
and so on. not one without the other - or not one way in all cases.

however, realize that "saved" means several things in Scripture - not only "saved" as in from sin and to eternal life.
I don't have time and references available now to go deeper, maybe later, but search for helps if you want to see
where "saved" includes or may mean saved from sickness, death, political power, worldly power, self, sin, economic system, and so on.

I don't know in this specific case/ Scripture you mentioned, except that it's not a blanket promise for everyone's family.
 
jonahmano said:
I heard a preacher quoting Acts 16:31 that if you are saved then your family will get saved and he went on to add "I don't how your family will be saved but it's written and so it will happen"

Acts 16:31
King James Version (KJV)
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

So this statement puzzled me and I came across few scriptures of what Jesus said about the family

Matthew 22
King James Version (KJV)
23The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,

24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.

25 Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother:

26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh.

27 And last of all the woman died also.

28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

The above scripture states that there is no family in heaven and also can be believed that there is no corporate salvation but salvation is on individual belief

My question is how to take Acts 16:31? Can we assume that when a person is saved, the grace is poured upon the whole family of the person and they get saved after they believe and get baptized?

Or is there another meaning of the scripture?

Hope your thoughts will be benefited to all. Please do share your views
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Let's check out the context!

They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with all who were in his house. And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household. And he brought them into his house and set food before them, and rejoiced greatly, having believed in God with his whole household. Acts 16:31-34 (NASB)

His whole household had believed in the Lord Jesus and thus were saved and baptized. They were not saved on account of his faith, but their own. Another way to read their first statement is like this: "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved... and not only you but this applies to your entire household!" (Paraphrase)

Paul's teaching regarding an unbelieving spouse is relevant I think, she doesn't save her husband by her own faith, but it does sanctify him in a way. We can help lead our family members to the Lord, but ultimately they have to embrace Jesus as Lord for themselves.

That preacher is promoting false doctrine.

Blessings,
DI
 
Many Americans think they are 'Christian' simply because they are encouraged by their country's Christian heritage and Christian neighbors.
 
Another way to view this, as this eludes to covenant succession, in Acts when someone has converted to Christianity they are baptized along with their entire family. Now that does not necessarily mean the entire family is saved, but it does mean that because of the member being saved the entire household is now under God's covenant. This still does mean that each individual still has their own opportunity to be saved. But the most important thing here is that should a child in that household perish before they reach an age where they are able to make this important decision for themselves, they will still be covered under the covenant.
 
Doulos Iesou said:
Let's check out the context!

They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with all who were in his house. And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household. And he brought them into his house and set food before them, and rejoiced greatly, having believed in God with his whole household. Acts 16:31-34 (NASB)

His whole household had believed in the Lord Jesus and thus were saved and baptized. They were not saved on account of his faith, but their own. Another way to read their first statement is like this: "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved... and not only you but this applies to your entire household!" (Paraphrase)

Paul's teaching regarding an unbelieving spouse is relevant I think, she doesn't save her husband by her own faith, but it does sanctify him in a way. We can help lead our family members to the Lord, but ultimately they have to embrace Jesus as Lord for themselves.

That preacher is promoting false doctrine.

Blessings,
DI
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Doulos Iesou said:
Let's check out the context!

They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with all who were in his house. And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household. And he brought them into his house and set food before them, and rejoiced greatly, having believed in God with his whole household. Acts 16:31-34 (NASB)

His whole household had believed in the Lord Jesus and thus were saved and baptized. They were not saved on account of his faith, but their own. Another way to read their first statement is like this: "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved... and not only you but this applies to your entire household!" (Paraphrase)

DI
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So you mean that Acts 16:31 is contextual?
 
Doulos Iesou said:
Every text is contextual, it is to be understood within it's context and the larger context of Scripture.

The whole family believed and thus was saved, they were not saved on account of the father's faith.
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And during that time a household may be defined as including all the people living there, servants, etc.
 
Deborah13 said:
And during that time a household may be defined as including all the people living there, servants, etc.
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Sometimes.
But not overall as in from Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, through english, to american customs and practices and thoughts and ideals and especially not in religion.
A good example is pork. Jews never considered pork as food, ever. But it got twisted and accepted in cultural ways later, so many Christians were tricked (on purpose, not on accident), and Scripture was mis-interpreted, to accomplish the enemies goal.
The wolves were already ready to pounce on the assembly and tear it apart , as Paul wrote, and they did, as Paul said they would, after he left. No one in the assembly was able to defend the group against the onslaught of the wolves (see in other thread, somewhere).

Likewise, "salvation" itself became a state requirement, instead of a reality. People either declared themselves "saved" or they were executed or banned. (many were executed anyway).
And, since even the very basic essence of "salvation" was twisted into the world's definition for some 2000 years, it is no surprise that
many or all of the other tenets of faith were likewise twisted for a long long time. It is truly a miracle, as the disciples with Jesus found out, that anyone is saved - impossible with men. Accomplished by God for those who with total abandon trust Him as He says to.
 
jonahmano said:
I heard a preacher quoting Acts 16:31 that if you are saved then your family will get saved and he went on to add "I don't how your family will be saved but it's written and so it will happen"

Acts 16:31
King James Version (KJV)
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

So this statement puzzled me and I came across few scriptures of what Jesus said about the family

Matthew 22
King James Version (KJV)
23The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,

24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.

25 Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother:

26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh.

27 And last of all the woman died also.

28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

The above scripture states that there is no family in heaven and also can be believed that there is no corporate salvation but salvation is on individual belief

My question is how to take Acts 16:31? Can we assume that when a person is saved, the grace is poured upon the whole family of the person and they get saved after they believe and get baptized?

Or is there another meaning of the scripture?

Hope your thoughts will be benefited to all. Please do share your views
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Being saved is a matter of being shielded from the consequences of our sin. In the beginning, it is a matter of receiving forgiveness from the Lord. As time passes on, the Lord expects us to learn from our mistakes, and as Paul puts it, work out our own salvation:

[12] Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
[13] for God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. Phil 2:12-13 RSV
 
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