Bible time-lines for the end-times

[Cornelius]

I am going to look at one of the time-line methods, that is in the Bible.

Text: 2 Peter 3
Context: The coming of the Lord.The LAST DAYS.

We are told that we , in the last days will meet up with a certain kind of person. Here is what they will say:2Pe 3:3 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers shall come with mockery, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Do you hear this around you ? Are people telling you that things are just the same and continuing as before ? That we cannot know the time of His coming ?

OK, these people do something with their WILL. They make a decision to ignore it.

2Pe 3:5 For this they willfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth compacted out of water and amidst water, by the word of God;
2Pe 3:6 by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

So they willfully make a decision to ignore the fact that this will indeed happen again, and that might even happen in their lifetime.But Peter then says that we have to REMEMBER something. Peter is giving us a KEY to understand the time-line. God wants us to know when Jesus will return.(If you think He is coming like a thief in the night, then go read it again and see to whom He is coming as a thief )

So then the antidote to the view of those who refuse to see and acknowledge the times, would be to follow Peter's advice : 2Pe 3:8 But forget not this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

1)We can see that this is not literal , because the word "as" is used. Therefor a day is not a thousand years, but "as" a thousand years, and a thousand years AS one day.
2) We are told not to forget it. So we need to take notice of it and Peter tell us to remember it.

 

[Cornelius]

Note, if you do NOT watch................Jesus comes a thief. He does not come as a thief to those who watch.Those who watch, will know the hour that He will come upon them.

Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and didst hear; and keep it, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

 

[freeway]

Good topic, I believe all Christians should be looking and studying prophecy about the last day so as to not be taken by surprise. I personally love studying end times have done so since becoming a Christian some time now.

We are told that we , in the last days will meet up with a certain kind of person. Here is what they will say:2Pe 3:3 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers shall come with mockery, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

This is so very true, but let me add if I may. I believe this is talking about the churches and "christians" that proclaim Christ but do not really know him. You can find all kinds of new age churches that deny the deity of Christ or the virgin birth, the second coming. The world while they do take some interest in the second coming, but mostly just a passing glance could really care less.. But church member that make up some of these new churches that deny all or most of what Jesus has done and will do, they eat that stuff up.... guess it make them feel better about what they do afterwards..
One last thing it is only by the grace of Jesus that I live, I'm no saint by any means...

 

[freeway]

We may not know the hour of His appearing... but we can know the season.. :yes

 

[Cornelius]

Thanks Freeway for posting. I do not have the time right now to add more....soon I am off to our Bible study group.

I can just tell you that I am then going to look at scriptures next that has to do with "days" . We will look at the time from Adam until now in "days" (1000 years = 1 day )

Adam being day one, Jesus being day four and we being day 1) day seven 2) the third day (after Jesus) 3) after two days (after Jesus...brings us to the third day) 4) After six days.(after Adam)

 

[Cornelius]

2Pe 3:11 Seeing that these things are thus all to be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy living and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 looking for and earnestly desiring the coming of the day of God, by reason of which the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

1) We should be looking for the day of the Lord
2)Desiring the coming of the day of the Lord

Question: Why should we be "looking for the day of the Lord" if we cannot find it ?

 

[Cornelius]

Third day after Jesus

First, remember that God uses the WHOLE Bible as a prophecy and He hides things in plain view. You and I must search it out:Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing; But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

So lets look for "third day" scriptures that seems to link in plain text to something that looks like the end time.

Exo 19:11 and be ready against the third day; for the third day Jehovah will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai. This was said to Israel, but we know that what happened to them is to be a lesson/example for us 1Co 10:11 Now these things happened unto them by way of example; and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.


OK? So now we can look at it legally and know that its for us too.

Exo 19:16 And it came to pass on the third day, when it was morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of a trumpet exceeding loud; and all the people that were in the camp trembled. Interesting it happens on the "morning" (early in the millennium ) and we see this "morning " here again: Hos 6:3 And let us know, let us follow on to know Jehovah: his going forth is sure as the morning; and he will come unto us as the rain, as the latter rain that watereth the earth. Notice both scriptures speaks of the coming of the Lord.

Did you see the "trumpet" in that scripture above ? Kind of like :1Co 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I remember when I first started considering the things you are speaking of Cornelious.Yes there were many who would say you cant know when Christ will come and they still do.The more I looked into it ,the more I became convinced Christ would come around 2000 years after he ascended into the clouds.I considerd the ressurection of Christ(after two days) and considerd the ressurection of his body(the church).I agree this is a time line for the end times.
Though I had already came to this conclusion before knowing of a book called the general epistle of Barnabus,After reading it ,it only strengthened what I had already believed about the subject.
Have you ever heard of a book called"the general epistle of Barnabus"?

 

[Cornelius]

I remember when I first started considering the things you are speaking of Cornelious.Yes there were many who would say you cant know when Christ will come and they still do.The more I looked into it ,the more I became convinced Christ would come around 2000 years after he ascended into the clouds.I considerd the ressurection of Christ(after two days) and considerd the ressurection of his body(the church).I agree this is a time line for the end times.
Though I had already came to this conclusion before knowing of a book called the general epistle of Barnabus,After reading it ,it only strengthened what I had already believed about the subject.
Have you ever heard of a book called"the general epistle of Barnabus"?

No I have not. I take it that it has the same view?

I see no other time-line that makes sense to me. This one fits both from Adam and from Jesus.Plus it is repeated in so many Old Testament incidents.I will come to it, but its repeated in Joseph, we see it in Jericho, we see it in Daniel, we see it in Noah, and many other places.


One interesting thing is that God created in seven days. The seventh being the Sabbath, which again will coincide with the last seven thousand years, being the 1000 years of peace or Sabbath.
Also notice that during the first part of the seventh day , God was still working. That would be our time now, if we took this time-line. Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God finished his work ....

Rather exciting to think that we are in these last moments now

 

[Sinthesis]

So lets look for "third day" scriptures that seems to link in plain text to something that looks like the end time.

Exo 19:11 and be ready against the third day; for the third day Jehovah will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai. This was said to Israel, but we know that what happened to them is to be a lesson/example for us 1Co 10:11 Now these things happened unto them by way of example; and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.


OK? So now we can look at it legally and know that its for us too.

So are you legally a Corinthian? :P Do you suggest that everyone, ever since Paul wrote the letter, has been living in the end times?

 

[Cornelius]

So lets look for "third day" scriptures that seems to link in plain text to something that looks like the end time.

Exo 19:11 and be ready against the third day; for the third day Jehovah will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai. This was said to Israel, but we know that what happened to them is to be a lesson/example for us 1Co 10:11 Now these things happened unto them by way of example; and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.


OK? So now we can look at it legally and know that its for us too.

So are you legally a Corinthian? :P Do you suggest that everyone, ever since Paul wrote the letter, has been living in the end times?

So which book in the Bible is for you ? :P

That letter is not talking about just the end times. It gives us the key to the Old Testament and how to get the message from it..........in the spirit.

C

 

[Shilohsfoal]

"Cornelius"No I have not. I take it that it has the same view?

Yea.He pretty much comes straight out and says it too.
http://www.ecmarsh.com/crl/lost_books/barnabas.htm

Barnabas 15

Moreover concerning the Sabbath likewise it is written in the Ten Words, in which He spake to Moses face to face on Mount Sinai; And ye shall hallow the Sabbath of the Lord with pure hands and with a pure heart.

And in another place He saith; If my sons observe the Sabbath then I will bestow My mercy upon them.

Of the Sabbath He speaketh in the beginning of the creation; And God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the seventh day, and rested on it, and He hallowed it.

Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years; and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end.

And He rested on the seventh day. this He meaneth; when His Son shall come, and shall abolish the time of the Lawless One, and shall judge the ungodly, and shall change the sun and the moon and the stars, then shall he truly rest on the seventh day.

 

[Sinthesis]

So lets look for "third day" scriptures that seems to link in plain text to something that looks like the end time.

Exo 19:11 and be ready against the third day; for the third day Jehovah will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai. This was said to Israel, but we know that what happened to them is to be a lesson/example for us 1Co 10:11 Now these things happened unto them by way of example; and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.


OK? So now we can look at it legally and know that its for us too.

So are you legally a Corinthian? :P Do you suggest that everyone, ever since Paul wrote the letter, has been living in the end times?

So which book in the Bible is for you ? :P

That letter is not talking about just the end times. It gives us the key to the Old Testament and how to get the message from it..........in the spirit.

C

Could you define 'the ends of the ages' for me? Thanks in advance.

 

[Cornelius]

"Cornelius"No I have not. I take it that it has the same view?

Yea.He pretty much comes straight out and says it too.
http://www.ecmarsh.com/crl/lost_books/barnabas.htm

Barnabas 15

Moreover concerning the Sabbath likewise it is written in the Ten Words, in which He spake to Moses face to face on Mount Sinai; And ye shall hallow the Sabbath of the Lord with pure hands and with a pure heart.

And in another place He saith; If my sons observe the Sabbath then I will bestow My mercy upon them.

Of the Sabbath He speaketh in the beginning of the creation; And God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the seventh day, and rested on it, and He hallowed it.

Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years; and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end.

And He rested on the seventh day. this He meaneth; when His Son shall come, and shall abolish the time of the Lawless One, and shall judge the ungodly, and shall change the sun and the moon and the stars, then shall he truly rest on the seventh day.

I will read more. Thanks for the link. Yes we are in agreement then.

Actually very simple if you think about it . God placed 7000 years (days) here on this earth where HE has to finish His creation : Producing Christ in us and this will end 'on the morning of the seventh day, when God will finish He work. It also coincides with "after two days" Hos 6:2 After two days will he revive us: on the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live before him.

So after two days after Christ is also after six days after Adam, is also the Sabbath ! (1000 years of peace )

 

[Cornelius]

Could you define 'the ends of the ages' for me? Thanks in advance.

1Co 10:11 Now these things happened unto them by way of example; and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.

Here we see that the Bible speaks of "ages" (not just one age)
We also see that it says "ends" (more than one end)

There are more than one age and more than one end. The first end, happened in 70AD when Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed. It was the tribulation of their time. Their end of an age.

Now we are there again. We are now also at an end of the age. We have come to the end of the age of the church as we know it.Tribulation is going to happen and God will purify the church from all human doctrine.

Believing this, or not believing this, does not matter, because God is not depending on our beliefs to bring it to pass. Many will in fact be in denial about this, just as in the time of Noah.

History is about the repeat for the last time.Ecc 1:9 That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

 

[Cornelius]

Maybe this would help. Jesus sometimes speaks as if these two ends are one. He does that because similar things happen in both tribulations. He also knows that history repeats. God tells us that He loves to hide things and that we need to seek the truth out. Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing; But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

 

[Sinthesis]

Could you define 'the ends of the ages' for me? Thanks in advance.

1Co 10:11 Now these things happened unto them by way of example; and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.

Here we see that the Bible speaks of "ages" (not just one age)
We also see that it says "ends" (more than one end)

There are more than one age and more than one end. The first end, happened in 70AD when Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed. It was the tribulation of their time. Their end of an age.

Now we are there again. We are now also at an end of the age. We have come to the end of the age of the church as we know it.Tribulation is going to happen and God will purify the church from all human doctrine.

Believing this, or not believing this, does not matter, because God is not depending on our beliefs to bring it to pass. Many will in fact be in denial about this, just as in the time of Noah.

History is about the repeat for the last time.Ecc 1:9 That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

So clearly he was writing to those at the end of the temple age circa 70AD, and possibly to those near the end of the church age in our presumed near future, but what of all the Christian readers of the many generations in between these two examples?

 

[Cornelius]

Could you define 'the ends of the ages' for me? Thanks in advance.

1Co 10:11 Now these things happened unto them by way of example; and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.

Here we see that the Bible speaks of "ages" (not just one age)
We also see that it says "ends" (more than one end)

There are more than one age and more than one end. The first end, happened in 70AD when Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed. It was the tribulation of their time. Their end of an age.

Now we are there again. We are now also at an end of the age. We have come to the end of the age of the church as we know it.Tribulation is going to happen and God will purify the church from all human doctrine.

Believing this, or not believing this, does not matter, because God is not depending on our beliefs to bring it to pass. Many will in fact be in denial about this, just as in the time of Noah.

History is about the repeat for the last time.Ecc 1:9 That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

So clearly he was writing to those at the end of the temple age circa 70AD, and possibly to those near the end of the church age in our presumed near future, but what of all the Christian readers of the many generations in between these two examples?

Well, you could ask the same question about the arrival of Jesus. Many generation had to wait for it to happen from the time the prophecy went forth.

Everything has its own time and you and I were born into this time, by design. You and I fit into this piece of the puzzle and those who came before, did what they had to do as well. Everything building up to the final moment, where God will manifest Jesus in His people . (Rev 12 / John 16)

 

[Cornelius]

Ecc 3:1 For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven

 

[Captain Sarcastic]

This "time-line" works for me: Jesus's return and the Last Judgment. :shades