Boys' Home vs. Homosexuals

[Vince]

Pretending that there were no hard feelings, a missionary couple broke off from the orphanage where I volunteer, and formed another one, just outside the Gringo Zone. It only takes teen-age boys, and the orphanage actually gave all their male teen-agers to them.

The boys' home has a carpentry shop and teaches the boys a skill that will hopefully get them employed when they have to leave. When boys at the orphanage reach a certain age, they are sent to the boys' home.

A pair of homosexual men had been sponsoring one of the boys, and when he was transferred, the two men offered to continue sponsoring him. The boys' home refused their support and denied them visitation.

I received our monthly volunteers' newsletter today, praising the people who sponsored the drinking party at the orphanage and criticizing the boys' home for their stand. The article pointed out that this will hurt the boys' home's fund-raising activities.

Somewhere down the line, you have to take a stand. Homosexuals are not cursed by God because they are homosexual; they are homosexual because they are cursed by God. The Bible doesn't teach us to persecute or harass homosexuals, and I'm friends with a homosexual who works at the animal shelter. It is also public knowledge that these two men have not molested the boy when they had him in their care.

But sharing the responsibility of raising a boy to be a Christian with a homosexual pair is not a good idea. I’m taking my stand with the boys' home, and if there are consequences, I’ll be taking them.

Adios, Vicente

 

[jasoncran]

Pretending that there were no hard feelings, a missionary couple broke off from the orphanage where I volunteer, and formed another one, just outside the Gringo Zone. It only takes teen-age boys, and the orphanage actually gave all their male teen-agers to them.

The boys' home has a carpentry shop and teaches the boys a skill that will hopefully get them employed when they have to leave. When boys at the orphanage reach a certain age, they are sent to the boys' home.

A pair of homosexual men had been sponsoring one of the boys, and when he was transferred, the two men offered to continue sponsoring him. The boys' home refused their support and denied them visitation.

I received our monthly volunteers' newsletter today, praising the people who sponsored the drinking party at the orphanage and criticizing the boys' home for their stand. The article pointed out that this will hurt the boys' home's fund-raising activities.

Somewhere down the line, you have to take a stand. Homosexuals are not cursed by God because they are homosexual; they are homosexual because they are cursed by God. The Bible doesn't teach us to persecute or harass homosexuals, and I'm friends with a homosexual who works at the animal shelter. It is also public knowledge that these two men have not molested the boy when they had him in their care.

But sharing the responsibility of raising a boy to be a Christian with a homosexual pair is not a good idea. I’m taking my stand with the boys' home, and if there are consequences, I’ll be taking them.

Adios, Vicente

vince, i cam only say that they need prayer. i dont see hate here at all, i agree with them.

 

[graceforme]

Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with allowing the homosexuals to provide for the young boy. Homosexuals are no more prone to being secual predators than heterosexuals are. I don't know why people believe this.

But, I do question the statement that they are homosexuals because they are cursed by God. Do you honestly believe that God causes a person to be a homosexual? When He calls it an abomination against Him? Could you please provide Scripture to back this up?

I look forward to hearing from you.

God Bless.

 

[Vince]

Good to hear from you, Graceforme. The entire passage in Romans 1 is sixteen verses long, but here's the part I was referring to:

"26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;"

 

[shad]

But, I do question the statement that they are homosexuals because they are cursed by God. Do you honestly believe that God causes a person to be a homosexual? When He calls it an abomination against Him? Could you please provide Scripture to back this up?

Hi grace, nice to meet you.

Cursed means not blessed. We all have unblessed tendency in some ways. I agree with you the rest, the children need to be protected from unholy things if it is within our power. The bad company corrupts good.

 

[graceforme]

Good to hear from you, Graceforme. The entire passage in Romans 1 is sixteen verses long, but here's the part I was referring to:

"26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;"

Thanks for the warm welcome and the clarification. Yes, God will give us over to our sin, if we continue to live our sinful lifestyle. This shows total rejection of God's Word and His instruction for our life. At that point, we are left on our own. And that's exactly what He did in that passage. They chose to give themselves over to homosexual sins and God permitted them to do so. Just as He will permit any one of us to do the same, should we make that choice.

God bless.

 

[graceforme]

But, I do question the statement that they are homosexuals because they are cursed by God. Do you honestly believe that God causes a person to be a homosexual? When He calls it an abomination against Him? Could you please provide Scripture to back this up?

Hi grace, nice to meet you.

Cursed means not blessed. We all have unblessed tendency in some ways. I agree with you the rest, the children need to be protected from unholy things if it is within our power. The bad company corrupts good.

Nice to meet you, too. I'm hoping to visit here often. So, what we mean here is that they are not blessed by God because of their continual sin. Yes, we all have unblessed tendency in some way. After all, we are human, and our hearts are "deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked ....." just as Scripture says.

God Bless.

 

[jasoncran]

as a former bi repented at the verses that vince quoted.

 

[graceforme]

as a former bi repented at the verses that vince quoted.

God Bless you. Continue to trust in God to give you the strength you need to overcome a sinful lifestyle. Your message is a tremendous blessing to me.

Keep looking up!

 

[jasoncran]

that was 15 yrs ago, no desire to be with a man. the devil still tries to get to me think about it, but i refuse to dwell on that sin.

 

[graceforme]

that was 15 yrs ago, no desire to be with a man. the devil still tries to get to me think about it, but i refuse to dwell on that sin.

Yes, Satan will try to get in the way anytime we take steps to move closer to God. He hates good and loves evil, and his goal is to get us to dwell on the sin and therefore try to move us away from God.

Keep trusting in the Lord and He will always give you the strength you need.

Proverbs 3:5-6.

God Bless.

 

[Vince]

Like a rotting egg, progress continues.

The volunteer newsletter at the orphanage had attacked Hope House for not allowing two homosexual men to be godparents for a boy they had just received from the orphanage. Because Hope House gets most of its financial support from the retired Gringos who live here, this cost them a lot of support. While the director of the orphanage had not known about the newsletter, Hope House is blaming her for not telling them about the homosexual couple when she sent the boy to live there.

The homosexuals are complaining, and now the government is getting involved, wanting to shut down the godparent program after learning that it allows homosexual men to take boys home with them. With no money from the government, the orphanage depends heavily on the godparent program to feed, clothe, and donate money for the children who get picked.

 

[jasoncran]

:mad lord come soon

 

[graceforme]

Like a rotting egg, progress continues.

The volunteer newsletter at the orphanage had attacked Hope House for not allowing two homosexual men to be godparents for a boy they had just received from the orphanage. Because Hope House gets most of its financial support from the retired Gringos who live here, this cost them a lot of support. While the director of the orphanage had not known about the newsletter, Hope House is blaming her for not telling them about the homosexual couple when she sent the boy to live there.

The homosexuals are complaining, and now the government is getting involved, wanting to shut down the godparent program after learning that it allows homosexual men to take boys home with them. With no money from the government, the orphanage depends heavily on the godparent program to feed, clothe, and donate money for the children who get picked.

I find it hard to believe that our government (our-let's-all-make-sure-we-are-politically-correct, minority-protecting, give-everyone-equal-rights-no-matter-how-depraved-they-may-be, government) would protest giving this young man to a homosexual couple. Homosexual couples adopt children, and give birth to children by artificial insemination every day and no one seems to care. No one even cared when a "man" gave birth to two children). Why is this case any different? Because government money is involved.

It disgusts me!

 

[Andrew]

I'd say they did the right thing. We (the church) are responsible for NOT allowing "a little yeast" to work it's way into the whole batch. Lukewarm Christianity is the result of the "tolerance" mentality.
The Episcopal Church was split right down the middle when they ordained that homosexual priest to be a bishop, the damage control of that alone is still not completely resolved. That one thing has all but killed that whole church.

 

[Vince]

I need to explain that the government I am referring to is the state of Jalisco in Mexico. Mexico does not run any orphanages, but the states regulate the ones that charities run. While providing no government money, Jalisco has the authority to shut down the godparent program.

The godparent program allows carefully-selected retired Gringos to have one of the orphans. They pay the orphan's school bills and voluntarily buy clothes and shoes, and they usually take them to their homes and feed them. This relieves a lot of the money burden at the orphanage.

Incidentally, the local Anglican church has a homosexual music minister and is blatantly pro-homosexual.

 

[Vince]

Well, Folks, today Hope House published its stand:

“because of the very conservative cultural and religious environment in Ixtlahuacan, and also because of the Biblican Christian mandate Hope House has been charged with, they have decided not to allow homosexual individuals to have visitation or act as "godparents" with the boysâ€.

The board of Love in Action published its stand by quoting John Hume:

“Difference is of the essence of humanity. Difference is an accident of birth and it should therefore never be the source of hatred or conflict. The answer to difference is to respect it. Therein lies a most fundamental principle of peace: respect for diversity.â€

 

[Vince]

Hope House has lost 80% of its funding, most of which comes from retired Gringos who live here.

The director of volunteers at Love in Action posted her resignation today. I do not know if she is the one who posted the attack on Hope House in the volunteers' newsletter.

The Assemblies of God church that we attend publicly sided with Hope House today. The pastor explained that he told the leaders of the orphanage that they had failed to carry out proper leadership when the homosexuals first applied to be godparents of one of the boys. He told them (and us) that as far as he could see, Love in Action is no longer a Christian institution.

I had already announced, publicly, that I am on the side of Hope House, and I will accept whatever consequences that entails. I will continue to serve at Love in Action as long as they let me.

 

[Steve]

Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with allowing the homosexuals to provide for the young boy. Homosexuals are no more prone to being secual predators than heterosexuals are. I don't know why people believe this.

But, I do question the statement that they are homosexuals because they are cursed by God. Do you honestly believe that God causes a person to be a homosexual? When He calls it an abomination against Him? Could you please provide Scripture to back this up?

I look forward to hearing from you.

God Bless.

I agree 100%. The idea that they are gay because they are cursed by God has taotal manure content with no fertiliser. Anyone who holds this garbage must be from the stone age. Or Muslim (same thing)
If these 2 individuals have contributed to this kid's support and have not molested him, then they should be allowewd to continue supporting and visiting him. Should we just shield this kid from everyone 'we' feel is a carrier of some bubonic plague? The whole thing is el stinko. I disagree with the boys' home.

 

[jasoncran]

they are saying that its a conflict of interest for them to teach biblical values. the ones say that being gay is sin, and unless the sinner repents they go to hell.

if they are teaching that then the children will be confused. they see that gay is good, yet the bible says its evil. the parents being gay will say that the bible is wrong. and the house will say no the bible is right.they didnt want to pit children against parents.

i do see your point. i also see theirs and why they did that.

i stand by them.