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-brief- piece on the world collapsing :-)

Christ_empowered

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its not just the US. Personally, I think covid hit us (the US) harder because of -structural- issues...even with a different leader, I think the US deaths would have been higher than other affluent, developed nations. --personal opinion--

and...according to this (again, brief) little piece, the whole wide world seems to be disintegrating. ugh. :-(

just thought I'd share the...well, I just thought I'd share. :)


https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/12/25/is-society-collapsing/
 
Christ_empowered said:
its not just the US. Personally, I think covid hit us (the US) harder because of -structural- issues...even with a different leader, I think the US deaths would have been higher than other affluent, developed nations. --personal opinion--

and...according to this (again, brief) little piece, the whole wide world seems to be disintegrating. ugh. :-(

just thought I'd share the...well, I just thought I'd share. :)


https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/12/25/is-society-collapsing/
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europe messed up their water sources years ago and ended up doing some extreme cleanup and care to reverse what they did - tech can kill and tech can heal - imo when things get bad someone comes up with a great solution to fix the problem - praying
 
yeah, you're hopefully correct. i need to read news and analysis...somewhere else...

ugh. bummer of a day, with all the taunting and such. but...there have been good moments, too. what's the saying? He won't put any more on us than we can bear? its from NT Scripture, but the verse escapes me, at the moment.

the bullying is never ending. i know, it sounds like im hearing voices. the only voices i hear are real ones...that and the insults from a past before Jesus, etc. ugh.

thing is...honestly, especially now that Christ has saved me, set me free, and made me a whole new person, even physically...

I don't feel so ashamed or anything. Truth? I always kinda just assumed somehow, I'd be healthy and OK, one day. 8 years ago, Jesus took compassion on me, and I got genuinely saved, and now...

wow. God is Good. Matthew 6:33 .

not that my life is perfect. ugh. stigma. it isn't just the south or red states or this zipcode or...blah blah blah...and, honestly, the more The Lord wills to bless my parents and me, the more I change for the better, in Christ (read: less me, more Him, not always an easy or even process...), the more...


static. from the broad road. and...warmth, from my parents. and other Christians, thank goodness.

rambling. The more I think about it, the more I think I just need...deliverance, somehow. could be infinitely worse than this, but...I get tired of the taunting. when I first moved in, this one man, he'd taunt me face to face. I guess he thought he could pick a fight, beat me up? i brushed it off. then...I didn't see him around so much, then I saw him, on a construction crew, building a new store (chain kinda deal). I was...less angry, then. he has to work -hard- to live here. for all i know, he might be in one of the business-owned places...they put a couple workers in there, then move them when it's time. I think there's one (2?) in the building next to me, maybe. moving on...

i was a mega-weakling, on the broad road. seriously. sin, satan, self, and the world. i got blamed for most of it, all of it sometimes...even stuff that was -done to me- became my fault, somehow, because 'he made poor life choices' or 'he went off his medication' or 'he should have just killed himself. can't handle the pressure...'

and now? well, the world doesn't budge. if anything, things will wax worse, just wait. that's what Scripture says, anyway. but Jesus has seen fit to save me, so now I'm "...in the world, but not of it..."

this isn't terrible. I've been thru worse, worse could be happening. Its just...a non-stop, rough reminder of the world I was called out of, the old me, the 'way the world works,' etc...

I Praise The Lord for His (genuine) Goodness. :)
 
jasonc said:
personally covid demonstrates our belief in being in control ,we think we can cure and protect ourselves fully .I'm,not siggesting not to
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We live on a naturally extremly unpredicatable dangerous earth in a insanly dangerous universe. Everything in life is a risk and accidents happen.

Maybe one day people will understand that.
 
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kiwidan said:
We live on a naturally extremly unpredicatable dangerous earth in a insanly dangerous universe. Everything in life is a risk and accidents happen.

Maybe one day people will understand that.
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true but ,well I,guess my time in war makes me less adverse
 
jasonc said:
personally covid demonstrates our belief in being in control ,we think we can cure and protect ourselves fully .I'm,not siggesting not to
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I understand the intention is good with most as its always about safety, but im still trying to figure out how Covid tests work. I mean people get tested even if they not sick,who knows why, if im sick i go to the doctor, anyhow, and it comes back positive or negative, but as soon as they walk out the door in the community or by the time the results are back the risk for all those negative would be still the same correct me if im wrong.

Get a test if your not sick and its negative and what,
next week have another test again to make sure negative again ?. The risk does not change from one day to the next.

I only get tested if im feeling sick by my doctor and they can try find a diagnosis.

I would never tested myself for anything if im not sick. Thats clogging up the health system.
 
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Christ_empowered said:
Personally, I think covid hit us (the US) harder because of -structural- issues...even with a different leader, I think the US deaths would have been higher than other affluent, developed nations. --personal opinion--
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Not that it is a competition but while the US has been hit hard with Covid deaths we are not the leader. There are other countries that have been hit much harder. From Johns Hopkins University here are the latest stats in deaths per 100,000 population as of December 27, 2020.

  1. Belgium ------------ 167.73 ~65% higher than the US. They've really been hit hard.
  2. San Marino ---------165.75
  3. Slovenia ------------ 122.47
  4. Italy ----------------- 118.51
  5. Bosnia -------------- 118.02
  6. Herzegovina --------118.02
  7. Peru ---------------- 116.81
  8. North Macedonia --116.52
  9. Andorra ------------ 107.78
  10. Spain --------------- 106.64
  11. United Kingdom --- 106.05
  12. Montenegro ------- 105.73
  13. Czechia ------------ 103.05
  14. United States ------ 101.45
 
They dont want to flood the health system trying to prevent a overload on the health system, yet they encourage the masses to get tested even if they not sick, millions of people get tested that overloads the health system and take up time and resource.

And what % comes back positive. And those who are positive what % need health care.
 
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kiwidan said:
They dont want to flood the health system trying to prevent a overload on the health system, yet they encourage the masses to get tested even if they not sick, millions of people get tested that overloads the health system and take up time and resource.

And what % comes back positive. And those who are positive what % need health care.
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The information is extremely difficult to find from the CDC. One of the problems is that covid results are not isolated from influenza and pneumonia. I believe part of the problem is that covid itself may not be so bad but it opens the door for other things like pneumonia and bronchitis and also leads to increased complications from things like OCPD, asthma, heart disease, diabetes, and so forth.

An example of this is a good friend of mine. She is 60 years old, was a smoker most of her life, and only recently quit. She developed OCPD over the years and is prone to depression. She contracted covid-19 and was doing okay for about a week but then she started having problems with persistent coughing more than her normal. That developed into bronchitis and continued to get worse. When she was admitted into the hospital she was diagnosed with pneumonia and it got worse from there. Breathing became difficult and she eventually ended up on a ventilator. Yesterday, we got some good news. She has been slowly recovering and is no longer requiring the ventilator so hopefully there is a growing light at the end of that tunnel. Getting covid seemed to be the one thing that got everything else heading down into the pit.


Best I can tell is that it appears roughly 50% of infected people are asymptomatic or have not symptoms. About 14% have more serious symptoms requiring some amount of hospitalization or worse leaving about 36% having minor symptoms. On a bright note, the death rate has been getting better as long as hospitals are able to keep up with the volume of patients.
 
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kiwidan said:
They dont want to flood the health system trying to prevent a overload on the health system, yet they encourage the masses to get tested even if they not sick, millions of people get tested that overloads the health system and take up time and resource.

And what % comes back positive. And those who are positive what % need health care.
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I fully understand the concern. I do you have to commend your government Kiwi since it was able to get a decent control on the virus.

The concern when it comes to over flowing the hospitals is about bed space and needs for respirators. The test takes about a minute to perform, then can be tested in a batch. So that is a low intensity compared to people being in beds and on expensive equipment for days.

Its more about contact tracing and figuring out what areas need the most resources. An issue the US has had since there is not an unilateral policy when it comes to testing, quarantine, and policy
 
Milk-Drops said:
I fully understand the concern. I do you have to commend your government Kiwi since it was able to get a decent control on the virus.
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I know the Health minister and Prime ministers intentions are good, i dont blame anyone, i just think things could have been done differently during lockdown, and it caused alot of stress and mental health issues. Even i complained and disagreed i still obey the rules as a law abiding citizen, the only way to stay out of trouble is obey the rules.
 
kiwidan said:
We went for elimination of 19 and i know the Health minister and Prime ministers intentions are good, i dont blame anyone, i just think things could have been done differently during lockdown, and it caused alot of stress and mental health issues. Even i complained i still obey the rules as a law abiding citizen, the only way to stay out of trouble is obey the rules.
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Yeah, i understand. Here its hit or miss based on the state and its still a mess. My state likes to pretend that its all about to be over while neighboring states keep trying to get us to take it seriously. Now we are a hotspot. ugh.
 
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