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Can any blasphemy (besides blasphemy against the Holy Spirit) be forgiven?
- Thread starter DoaWK1992
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Who or what is stronger, God's love and forgiveness or sin?
Basically don't play with the idea of blasphemy, sin is serious. Jesus died a disgusting, degrading death to pay for all our sins.
So if you have intrusive thoughts that are blasphemous, one deals with them by simple acknowledging them and moving on.
If those thoughts torment you with past, forgiven sins, acknowledge you are a sinner and move on to thank and praise God for All that Jesus has done for you.
Basically don't play with the idea of blasphemy, sin is serious. Jesus died a disgusting, degrading death to pay for all our sins.
So if you have intrusive thoughts that are blasphemous, one deals with them by simple acknowledging them and moving on.
If those thoughts torment you with past, forgiven sins, acknowledge you are a sinner and move on to thank and praise God for All that Jesus has done for you.
I know that I was just asking...
A good site to research, ' just asking questions ' :-
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Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
A Tree Is Known by Its Fruit
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is speaking anything evil from a hardened heart against God's Spirit.
Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
A Tree Is Known by Its Fruit
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is speaking anything evil from a hardened heart against God's Spirit.
1 Timothy 1:13 Paul (Saul) was a blasphemer and even persecuted Christians to death, but was a blasphemer out of ignorance in unbelief for he knew not Christ or the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It wasn't until his conversion on the road to Damascus that his spiritual eyes and ears were opened, to understanding, Acts 9.
Those who walk in unbelief are just that being nonbelievers and are none of Christ like Paul was at one time. Those who have walked in truth given them by the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit) John 14:26, are those who have also turned back to the flesh just as the foolish Galatians who walked away from faith in Galatians chapter 3. Those who blasphemy the Holy Spirit knowing the truth have walked away from it as their hearts become hardened and they speak evil against the (Holy Spirit)
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. 33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
This might help us understand what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is all about in a simpler understanding. It's a conscious and hardened opposition to the truth because the Spirit that is God is truth. Conscious and hardened resistance to the truth leads man away from humility and repentance and without repentance there can be no forgiveness. Because of defiance they refuse to hear what the Spirit (God) is speaking to them. The only unpardonable sin is refusing to let God pardon you for without repentance there is no forgiveness of sin.
Strong's Concordance definition of blasphemy - contempt
Contempt: the feeling that a person or thing is beneath consideration, worthless, or deserving scorn.
Provocation : action or speech that makes someone annoyed or angry, especially deliberately
Example: Nehemiah 9:18; 26; Ezekiel 35:12-15
Dictionary blasphemy - the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously (evil) about God or sacred things; provain talk
Blasphemy in scripture: (read the full context as I only picked out certain verses that contain the word blasphemy)
2 Samuel 12:14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
Isaiah 52:5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed.
Matthew 9:3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: 30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
Mark 14:64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.
Luke 5: 21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?
Acts 26:11 And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities.
Romans 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
James 2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
Reprobate mind means a depraved, unprincipled or wicked person rejected by God and beyond hope of salvation
Example:
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Those who walk in unbelief are just that being nonbelievers and are none of Christ like Paul was at one time. Those who have walked in truth given them by the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit) John 14:26, are those who have also turned back to the flesh just as the foolish Galatians who walked away from faith in Galatians chapter 3. Those who blasphemy the Holy Spirit knowing the truth have walked away from it as their hearts become hardened and they speak evil against the (Holy Spirit)
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. 33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
This might help us understand what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is all about in a simpler understanding. It's a conscious and hardened opposition to the truth because the Spirit that is God is truth. Conscious and hardened resistance to the truth leads man away from humility and repentance and without repentance there can be no forgiveness. Because of defiance they refuse to hear what the Spirit (God) is speaking to them. The only unpardonable sin is refusing to let God pardon you for without repentance there is no forgiveness of sin.
Strong's Concordance definition of blasphemy - contempt
Contempt: the feeling that a person or thing is beneath consideration, worthless, or deserving scorn.
Provocation : action or speech that makes someone annoyed or angry, especially deliberately
Example: Nehemiah 9:18; 26; Ezekiel 35:12-15
Dictionary blasphemy - the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously (evil) about God or sacred things; provain talk
Blasphemy in scripture: (read the full context as I only picked out certain verses that contain the word blasphemy)
2 Samuel 12:14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
Isaiah 52:5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed.
Matthew 9:3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: 30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
Mark 14:64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.
Luke 5: 21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?
Acts 26:11 And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities.
Romans 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
James 2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
Reprobate mind means a depraved, unprincipled or wicked person rejected by God and beyond hope of salvation
Example:
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
The example I like to use is found in Mathew 16. There is Satan the lying spirit of the antichrist the spirit that works in false apostles false prophets. Satan seduced Peter as one of the many antichrists (plural) were there according to 1 John 2.
Peter as a false prophet rebuked our unseen God and forbid the son of man Jesus from doing the will of the Holy Father. Then the Father gave words to Jesus to rebuke the devil. In effect Jesus prophesied. Get behind me God not seen and not Peter a temporal man seen .
The Holy Father forgave Peter of his blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus'. Blasphemy against the Holy Father not seen could never be forgiven. . . the Father alone has the power to raise dying flesh as good as dead to new spirit life.
God whose name as a immutable attribute is Jealous. He will not share his hidden glory with dying flesh. He is not served by dying hands as a will of mankind. Mankind. . . a reflection of his glory if they obey and accredit the power to the source of light.
Jesus . . . . . . . Son of man
God . . . . . . . the Holy Father
Peter . . . . . . .mankind used as one of the many antichrists spoken of in 1 John 2
Satan . . . . . . .the lying spirit of the antichrist the serpents head
Mathew 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.. . . . .. .(no life)
Blasphemy against the unseen things of our glorious God. Two chances slim and none, fat chance slim change rolled into one . . . . . .no chance.
Peter as a false prophet rebuked our unseen God and forbid the son of man Jesus from doing the will of the Holy Father. Then the Father gave words to Jesus to rebuke the devil. In effect Jesus prophesied. Get behind me God not seen and not Peter a temporal man seen .
The Holy Father forgave Peter of his blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus'. Blasphemy against the Holy Father not seen could never be forgiven. . . the Father alone has the power to raise dying flesh as good as dead to new spirit life.
God whose name as a immutable attribute is Jealous. He will not share his hidden glory with dying flesh. He is not served by dying hands as a will of mankind. Mankind. . . a reflection of his glory if they obey and accredit the power to the source of light.
Jesus . . . . . . . Son of man
God . . . . . . . the Holy Father
Peter . . . . . . .mankind used as one of the many antichrists spoken of in 1 John 2
Satan . . . . . . .the lying spirit of the antichrist the serpents head
Mathew 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.. . . . .. .(no life)
Blasphemy against the unseen things of our glorious God. Two chances slim and none, fat chance slim change rolled into one . . . . . .no chance.
Carry_Your_Name
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Other blasphemies usually come out of ignorance, blaspheming against the Holy Spirit come out of full knowledge and experience of God's goodness, it's like being cured from a deadly disease, and then bitterly curse the healer and willingly go back to the old habits that caused the disease, does a person like this deserves forgiveness?
I don't think you should just move on, you need to defeat the enemy from planting those thoughts and start speaking the word to him and rebuking him from your life in jesus name. resist the devil and he will flee from you Jesus said greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world. And no weapon formed against me shall prosper we quote the word like Jesus did when he was tempted so the angel can deliver us through our faith in action. these scriptures are very powerful like a sword against the enemy and will achieve results in your life. get the booklet by Charles Capps of the scriptures to read out loud and watch the miracles come to your soul. the book is called Gods creative power.
No, but lets understand the context of that. Jesus cast out demons by the Spirit of God. But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.
So slander against Jesus can be forgiven but not slander of the Holy Spirit of God.
And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
1 John 1:9
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Romans 5:20
20 ...where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,
Psalm 86:5
5 For you, O Lord, are good and forgiving, abounding in steadfast love to all who call upon you.
Isaiah 55:6-7
6 “Seek the LORD while he may be found; call upon him while he is near;
7 let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the LORD, that he may have compassion on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
The only sin God cannot forgive is the sin of refusing His salvation.
The Christian person has been fully forgiven by God of all their sin, past, present and future, through the shed blood of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 7:27; Hebrews 9:12; Hebrews 10:10; Romans 6:10). Without this forgiveness obtained through Christ's once-for-all sacrifice, no one can be accepted by God as one of His own. Christ is the born-again person's righteousness, sanctification and redemption (Romans 3:24; Romans 5:8-9; 1 Corinthians 1:30); in him they have full and eternal forgiveness from God and unalterable acceptance, therefore, by Him. This is why a born-again person cannot sin their way out of the family of God. Like the Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32), a truly born-again person can wander off into a "far country" and live in wickedness, squandering their spiritual inheritance, and yet never cease to be God's child. This is the amazing grace of God (Romans 5:20b). His love and acceptance of us is not anchored in us but in Christ our Savior; God accepts the Beloved, who is Jesus (Ephesians 1:6), and all those who are "in him." And because God always accepts Christ, He always accepts those who are "clothed" in Christ (Romans 13:14; Galatians 3:27). And so, there is nowhere in the New Testament, after Christ's Atonement on the cross, where Christians are told to ask God for forgiveness. Nowhere.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Romans 5:20
20 ...where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,
Psalm 86:5
5 For you, O Lord, are good and forgiving, abounding in steadfast love to all who call upon you.
Isaiah 55:6-7
6 “Seek the LORD while he may be found; call upon him while he is near;
7 let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the LORD, that he may have compassion on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
The only sin God cannot forgive is the sin of refusing His salvation.
The Christian person has been fully forgiven by God of all their sin, past, present and future, through the shed blood of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 7:27; Hebrews 9:12; Hebrews 10:10; Romans 6:10). Without this forgiveness obtained through Christ's once-for-all sacrifice, no one can be accepted by God as one of His own. Christ is the born-again person's righteousness, sanctification and redemption (Romans 3:24; Romans 5:8-9; 1 Corinthians 1:30); in him they have full and eternal forgiveness from God and unalterable acceptance, therefore, by Him. This is why a born-again person cannot sin their way out of the family of God. Like the Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32), a truly born-again person can wander off into a "far country" and live in wickedness, squandering their spiritual inheritance, and yet never cease to be God's child. This is the amazing grace of God (Romans 5:20b). His love and acceptance of us is not anchored in us but in Christ our Savior; God accepts the Beloved, who is Jesus (Ephesians 1:6), and all those who are "in him." And because God always accepts Christ, He always accepts those who are "clothed" in Christ (Romans 13:14; Galatians 3:27). And so, there is nowhere in the New Testament, after Christ's Atonement on the cross, where Christians are told to ask God for forgiveness. Nowhere.
Hey All,
DoaWK1922, it is good to be curious. You have been given some good answers here. John D has it exactly right.
The Holy Spirit has two main responsibilities here. He indwells (big word for always is in) the believers, and to call sinners to repentance. Believers cannot do this because He is already in our hearts leading and guiding us. Unbelievers do this when they deny the Holy Spirit's call. If a person dies in an unrepentant state, they have committed unforgivable blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. There is no forgiveness beyond death.
That's the simple answer.
The simple solution: Don't Be That Person! Answer the Holy Spirit's call. Repent and receive Jesus as your Savior.
Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
DoaWK1922, it is good to be curious. You have been given some good answers here. John D has it exactly right.
The Holy Spirit has two main responsibilities here. He indwells (big word for always is in) the believers, and to call sinners to repentance. Believers cannot do this because He is already in our hearts leading and guiding us. Unbelievers do this when they deny the Holy Spirit's call. If a person dies in an unrepentant state, they have committed unforgivable blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. There is no forgiveness beyond death.
That's the simple answer.
The simple solution: Don't Be That Person! Answer the Holy Spirit's call. Repent and receive Jesus as your Savior.
Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz
Blasphemy is like plagiarism acreting the the works of one to another. The first commandment speaks to it ,In efect. . Do not have false prophets as false apostles before Me the one good teaching master as Lord
Blasphemy is robbing the power of God and giving it to the fallen dying mankind.
Everytime we sin we repent. God calls those who do not do his will as foolish not blasphemy
Blasphemy is robbing the power of God and giving it to the fallen dying mankind.