Can God be in the presence of sin?

[JustWondering]

Here's another thing I was "just wondering" about...

I've often heard the reason non-Christians can't get into heaven is because God can't allow sin into heaven. I suppose the thought is that God is so holy and pure that He can't be in the presence of sin. Is that a proper understanding?

If so, then how is God omnipresent in this world, where sin is everywhere? Is God present at a strip club or a brothel, for example? If God is truly everywhere in this world, then why can He be in the presence of sin here on earth, but not in heaven?

 

[elijah23]

Here's another thing I was "just wondering" about...

I've often heard the reason non-Christians can't get into heaven is because God can't allow sin into heaven. I suppose the thought is that God is so holy and pure that He can't be in the presence of sin. Is that a proper understanding?

If so, then how is God omnipresent in this world, where sin is everywhere? Is God present at a strip club or a brothel, for example? If God is truly everywhere in this world, then why can He be in the presence of sin here on earth, but not in heaven?

Heaven is the life we have when we are free of sin:

From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matt 4:17 RSV

The Lord is everywhere.

 

[childeye]

=JustWondering;571075]Here's another thing I was "just wondering" about...

I've often heard the reason non-Christians can't get into heaven is because God can't allow sin into heaven. I suppose the thought is that God is so holy and pure that He can't be in the presence of sin. Is that a proper understanding?

It depends on what you define as sin. God doesn't allow in heaven the impure heart because He is Holy. Sin is a manifestation of the impure heart and mind. For instance. Adam and Eve used to walk naked with God everyday in the garden and after eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil they hid from God and covered their nakedness. God cannot allow anybody into heaven who won't confide in Him and in whom He cannot confide.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Of course - HE came to YOU, and me, when we were filthy.

"why can He be in the presence of sin here on earth, but not in heaven?"

Remember His prayer: Let it be "On Earth" as it is "in Heaven".

God allows NOTHING of earthly Filth in heaven - in HIS Kingdom. But that doesn't mean He "Can't be around it". That's only Human Superstition.

 

[smaller]

Re: Of course - HE came to YOU, and me, when we were filthy.

"why can He be in the presence of sin here on earth, but not in heaven?"

Remember His prayer: Let it be "On Earth" as it is "in Heaven".

God allows NOTHING of earthly Filth in heaven - in HIS Kingdom. But that doesn't mean He "Can't be around it". That's only Human Superstition.

IF as you observe in your opening post, that God is Omnipresent and we all sin, then the math is quite obvious.

Yet 'in Him' there is no sin. How can this be? It is an open dichotomy.

There can be both Omnipresence and yet within Him, no sin. Two truths, both fully true and fully operational.

If we see God as Perfection without limit, then every 'thing' else by rote definition is 'not Him' as He is not any 'thing' as we might define any 'thing.'

Set any 'thing' next to God or 'within' the realm of Omnipresence. You will find no other comparative 'thing.'

Two truths or facts. Both true simultaneously.

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[Classik]

Intersting post! GOD CAN'T BE IN THE PRESENCE OF SIN!

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How about Christ on the Cross? God does not tolerate sin. God could not bear to look upon Christ on the cross. He turned away from Christ.