I watched a video about the rapture and how there won't be one and now I'm scared....I don't want to suffer through the tribulation! And possibly commit the 2nd unforgivable sin! (taking the mark of the beast) Please somebody help me I don't wanna..have endless nights!
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can somebody help me understand? (I'm Scared)
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Read your Bible more there, 1992. It will help you not to be so paranoid, and educate you on those matters at the same time.
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The rapture theory is false doctrine, Ezekiel chapter 13 to document. God hates the fly away doctrine. The unforgivable sin. Only Gods Elect can commit the unpardonable sin, mark chapter 13 and Matthew chapter 10 to document. Second thessalonians chapter 2, The son of perdition is satan, he comes 6th trump in his role as antichrist to Jerusalem. He will go into temple of God and claim to be Jesus. Its 5 month period, revelation chapter 9 to Document. God is using satan as antichrist to test people. Jesus want's to know who studied the bible??. Revelation of 13, The whole world will worship antichrist, except the saints, that's God's elect. The saints have seal of God, revelation chapter 7 to document. How do I get past antichrist??. Read ephesians chapter 6. Its knowledge and wisdom of God's word. You need gospel armour on. Many people are biblically illiterate and will be deceived by antichrist lies and deception near future. Don't be one of them. Ephesians chapter 6 is the key to get past antichrist. It's knowledge and wisdom of God's word. If you need help studying the bible. I recommend shepherds chapel, pastor Dennis murray. He teaches chapter by chapter. It's on YouTube. Second Timothy chapter 3 is bible prophecy and it will get more evil before antichrist arrives 6th trump. Antichrist wants company in hell. Dont worship antichrist. I hope you decide to study with pastor dennis murray. You tube. Peace.
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No one knows what the tribulation might be like.
No one knows when the end will come.
It's wasted energy to fear something you most probably will never experience.
God's love casts out all fear.
John 4:18
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Try this exercise to possibly calm your nerves.
Read the 2nd and 3rd chapters of Revelation... the letters to the 7 churches.
Do you see yourself reflected in one particular church?
Do you see the rewards or cautions to line up with your life?
Jesus left an encouragement/correction to 7 different churches to assist them through the last days.
I would love to hear from you if you found this helpful or not.
Just try to read the 7 letters as a message to you in person.
Let me know one way or the other what you think.
Read the 2nd and 3rd chapters of Revelation... the letters to the 7 churches.
Do you see yourself reflected in one particular church?
Do you see the rewards or cautions to line up with your life?
Jesus left an encouragement/correction to 7 different churches to assist them through the last days.
I would love to hear from you if you found this helpful or not.
Just try to read the 7 letters as a message to you in person.
Let me know one way or the other what you think.
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1 John 4:16-19
16 We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.
17 By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.
19 We love, because He first loved us.
DoaWK1992, do you know and believe God loves you? It doesn't sound like it. Your posts about fearing this, or that, indicate that you aren't well-settled into the incredible, faithful, unshakeable love that God has for you. Part of the result of not being confident and secure in God's awesome love for you is that you won't love Him in return. How do you love someone who terrifies you?
God doesn't want to be your wrathful Judge; He wants to be your loving heavenly Father. He's gone to great and awful lengths to show you that this is so: He sacrificed His own Son for your sake, so that you might be able to enjoy daily, intimate communion with Himself. Surely, this should show you that God loves you and that you can rest in the fact that He does.
God's not like us; He love for us is rock-solid; it doesn't cool when we're sinful and heat up when we're obeying Him well. Remember, God loved us enough to sacrifice His Son for us when we were still sinners!
Romans 5:6-8
6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die.
8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
You can trust a God who loves you like this. Yes, He absolutely hates our sin, but this doesn't stop Him from loving us still and doing all He can to move us toward Himself, the Greatest Thing in all the universe.
Until you start trusting that God really loves you, and rest confident in this truth, fear will continue to plague you. And this fear will keep you from enjoying God as He wants you to do.
This might be a bit hard to understand, but your fear is actually a kind of self-centeredness, a sort of selfishness. You're afraid for yourself, right? You're concerned about what might happen to you. But the more we have our eyes on ourselves, the more we're occupied with us, the less clearly we see God, the more crowded from view He is. We can't look in two directions at once; we can't be staring at ourselves, fearful of what might harm us, and have our eyes fixed on God, too.
God didn't make you to be self-centered. He made you to know Him, to love Him, to enjoy Him and to glorify Him. This is why you exist. And when this is how you are in your daily living, you will enjoy the deepest, richest, most wonderful kind of life possible. Being focused on yourself so much that you become constantly anxious and see God as a terrible threat rather than as your Heavenly Father who loves you more than you can ever fully understand, will keep you from the life for which God made you. It will also, as you're discovering, make you miserable and afraid.
So, will you begin to live in the truth of God's love for you, meeting your fearful thoughts and feelings with the truth that He does? Every time you grow afraid, will you tell yourself the truth of God's word, that God loves you so much He sent His only Son to die for you (John 3:16)? When anxiety grips you, will you stand by faith on the truth that God will never leave you nor forsake you (Hebrews 13:5), that nothing can separate you from His love (Romans 8:35-39), that nothing can pluck you out of Christ's hand (John 10:27-29)? This is the way to win free of fear and begin to enjoy the peace and rest of God.
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Some films, for instance horror, lead to scary nights, whatever the theme. If you PM me, I’d happy to give you a link to a free PDF on John’s Revelation. C S Lewis’ The World’s Last Night, is well worth a read.
IMO the Mark of the Beast, and the Mark of God, stand for spiritual orientation. Changing from the former to the latter is exemplified by Christian conversion, and throughout history there have been the two Marks (Camps). The Unforgivable Sin is a phrase Jesus used to his opposition who, acceptably slamming him (reasonable doubt), were unacceptably slamming God’s spirit (unreasonable doubt). And the point is, that while folk are doing the latter, they cannot be forgiven, ie, enter in to what God wishes to give them. The sin is hostile attitude towards God’s grace, and the period of unforgiveness is while the sin continues.
Love God, get on with life, sleep well.
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Well, it’s also a valid eschatology that the Tribulation is over and will never come again. I am totally free of that doom and gloom eschatology. So fear not. There is no times described in Revelation coming.
Now having said that, the future doesn’t look good. There’s no boegeyman Antichrist but there are VERY EVIL forces in power and they are planing events worse than the Covid events. So there’s cause for alarm.
Look into Preterism. Try Bruce Gore on YouTube. The Beast was Nero who defeated the Christians for 3.5 years. The Tribulation was God’s wrath poured on the people who crucified the Son God and they suffered as described. The Christians all left town seeing Jerusalem surrounded by armies.
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1 Jhn.4:18, that is. Don't go telling folk how many husbands they have had
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For me this is another proof that this eschatology is all wrong. What is the fruit? FEAR!! The best you can hope for is you die before it all happens. What kind of theology is that? Jesus gave the believers signs and advise. The signs we all know in Matt 24. The advise was "get out of Jerusalem when you see this happening" which is clear advise and they followed it. What kind of advise do those who hold this eschatology give? Hope you die first.
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That is your response to this eschatology... well that is on you.
I look forward with great hope and joy. Wonder and amazement.
The Bridegroom coming in power and might to claim His Bride.
You see this with fear and I see this with love.
Maybe you could try to perfect your love.
1John 4:15 Whoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwells in him, and he in God.
1John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God has to us. God is love; and he that dwells in love dwells in God, and God in him.
1John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
1John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear: because fear has torment. He that fears is not made perfect in love.
1John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.
Advise to persons who will endure the Tribulation?
Read the letters to the 7 churches as a personal note to yourself and see yourself in one of the churches.
I bet that one church will resonate more than the others.
Jesus Himself gives encouragement and correction to those who will be called on to endure.
I know you "know" that you are right... but try reading Revelation as if you were wrong.
Can you read a text from the other side of the argument or are you too entrenched in your own way of thinking?
I constantly read texts from the other viewpoint to see what merit their argument has.
Will you commit to doing the same?
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You didn’t read my post carefully. I have no fear as it’s not my eschatology. The OP poster is afraid.
I guess if you pick out the Tribulation from the theology, that’s a way to look at it.
Again, I have no fear at all as I know there’s no Tribulation coming.
Since I haven’t the theology you accuse me of, unnecessary advise.
All good.
Just pick the church you like, right?
Yes, the one you like….probably the letters that praise.
He tells them to leave Jerusalem.
Ah, the personal insult totally lacking love and truth. Your joy rings hollow.
The second personal insult lacking love.
You can’t even figure out that I’m not afraid after reading that I’m not afraid!!!
Well, read what I wrote for one and try being loving instead of personally false accusing, for two.
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I never said you were afraid.
So you agree with me. The Tribulation will be a wonderful time of witnessing Jesus power and might.
i never said you had fear. And the Tribulation is on it's way.
I have seen no proof to back your opinion.
I have not mentioned your theology. So if someone advises you to love more... it is unnecessary?
Yes it is.
I never said that.
What "letters that praise"? This just shows us all that your understanding of the 7 letters is incomplete.
He tells them to leave Jerusalem.
What personal insult?
Are you right in your beliefs?
I will assume you answer "yes".
How is this in any way an insult?
How does asking you to read something from another perspective reflect on my joy?
What insult?
You are reading insult where none exists.
Many people never stop to read a text from the other persons perspective.
This is a general observation and not an insult.
If I have insulted you then your post #10 is an insult to me.
I never said you were afraid.
I have not accused you of anything, other than posting a personal opinion that you state as a judgement on an eschatological viewpoint.
You state that you have some proof that this eschatology is wrong because you see it producing fear.
It does not produce fear in me.
So your proof is incomplete/flawed/faulty.
Every thing that I have coloured red in this post can be considered as you personally attacking me and my character.
Maybe lighten up on the reigns of insult.
I am done here as this is not the correct forum for this debate.
Start an eschatological forum debate and I will engage there.
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Dorothy Mae
THIS IS NOT A DEBATE FORUM.
PLEASE CEASE THIS CONVERSATION.
REPLY TO THE OP ONLY.
THANKS.
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Why don’t you tell that to Paul Timothy???
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The Rapture theory is just that as being a theory and not found in scripture. (We will not discuss this here please start a new topic on this in the End Time Forum if you want to further explore this) We need not fear that which must come first, but to be prepared for knowing that of what is coming during the wrath of God being poured out into the world during the seven trumpets sounding as chastisements that will befall all who have yet to turn back to God.
We are instructed to flee to the wilderness where God has a place prepared for us when we see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel stand in the holy place as this will be the time of the son of perdition/false Christ/last antichrist who will promise safety and provision if you bow down to him and take the mark of this beast, Matthew 24; 2Thessalonians 2; Rev 12; Rev 13.
During the 3 1/2 year reign of the son of perdition in the end of days will bring with it much temptation to take the mark of this beast, but this will be a time of having complete faith and trust in God as we take no concern for our life, but to be about His business as even with our dying breath we need to give praise and glory to God as we will be with Him for all eternity.
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Just keep your focus on Christ continuing to build up your faith and trust in Him as it will be hard to endure all persecutions that will come against us until the end. Keep your focus on the return of Christ on the last day and be prepared to be gathered up to meet Him in the air, 1Corinthians 15:50-58; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18.
We are instructed to flee to the wilderness where God has a place prepared for us when we see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel stand in the holy place as this will be the time of the son of perdition/false Christ/last antichrist who will promise safety and provision if you bow down to him and take the mark of this beast, Matthew 24; 2Thessalonians 2; Rev 12; Rev 13.
During the 3 1/2 year reign of the son of perdition in the end of days will bring with it much temptation to take the mark of this beast, but this will be a time of having complete faith and trust in God as we take no concern for our life, but to be about His business as even with our dying breath we need to give praise and glory to God as we will be with Him for all eternity.
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Just keep your focus on Christ continuing to build up your faith and trust in Him as it will be hard to endure all persecutions that will come against us until the end. Keep your focus on the return of Christ on the last day and be prepared to be gathered up to meet Him in the air, 1Corinthians 15:50-58; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18.
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This also includes Paul Timothy