What's new
By:
Filters
Christian Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Charismania is the tip of the spear, the coming strong delusion Antichrist is Christ

Alfred Persson

Alfred Persson

Catholic Orthodox Free Will Reformed Baptist
2024 Supporter
Charismania is the tip of the spear, the beginning of the strong delusion that leads the church into apostasy, so that it receives the "miracle working Man of Sin" as the Christ.

Charismania leads people away from obedience to scripture, into obeying their own experiences. Its a slow process, but after a time all ability to critically evaluate the supernatural by objective Scriptural tests, is lost. Delusion wins:

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thess. 2:9-12
NKJ)

The man of sin will do real miracles signs and wonders. But his teaching will be apostate.

The weeds among the wheat will rejoice, because they have been conditioned to ignore the differences in what they do, and what happened in scripture.

The "lying wonders" the Lawless One does won't be "counterfeit", they are "lying" because they "authenticate the false gospel of the antichrist."

But by then charismaniacs will rejoice, because they will see genuine signs and wonders as proof the Bible is not to be obeyed.

Then my argument against fraud will be turned on its head, and the "real miracles" of the Antichrist used to discredit all who still obey God's Truth the Bible.

The Lawless One will deceive Charismaniacs, because they have been misled to believe its impossible God allow Satan work real signs and wonders to deceive.

They believe that because they ignore this Bible text:

1 "If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,
2 "and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying,`Let us go after other gods'-- which you have not known--`and let us serve them,'
3 "you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4 "You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice, and you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him. (Deut. 13:1-4 NKJ)

endtimenews.net

God Will Allow the Strong Delusion of the Antichrist Test the Earth | End Time News

And for this reason God will send them strong (1753 ἐνέργεια energeia) delusion, that they should believe the lie, (2 Thess. 2:11 NKJ) God sends "the energy of delusion" so those who did not receive love of God's Truth (the Bible) will believe "the BIG LIE" (2 Thess. 2:11-12), the miracle...
endtimenews.net
 
Last edited:
Alfred Persson said:
The man of sin will do real miracles signs and wonders. But his teaching will be apostate.
Click to expand...
These miracles, signs and wonders will be done by holographic imagery projected out into all the world that everyone will see at the same time. Look up Project Blue Beam.
 
for_his_glory said:
These miracles, signs and wonders will be done by holographic imagery projected out into all the world that everyone will see at the same time. Look up Project Blue Beam.
Click to expand...

That doesn't require Satan's power which the text says will be manifest in "all power, signs and lying wonders."

Most commentators believe they are real signs and wonders but they "lie" because they deceive people the Man of Sin "Lawless One" is Christ.

Context "with all unrighteous deception" is consistent with that reading:

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
(2 Thess. 2:9-10 NKJ)

QUESTION: In what sense are the miracles false?
Only a few commentators think that this simply means that the miracles are faked [Ea, Lns, Mn]. Most think that these are real miracles [EBC, Er, Hb, Hn, HNTC, NCBC, NIC, SSA, TH, Wd]. ‘Falsehood’ then means that the miracles come from a false source [Alf, Ea, Fn, Hb, Hn, Lns, My, NCBC, SSA], seemingly done by God’s power [SSA], and that they are intended to deceive people [Alf, Ea, EBC, Er, Hn, HNTC, Lns, Mn, My, NCBC, NIC, TH].-Blight, R. C. (2008). An Exegetical Summary of 1 & 2 Thessalonians (2nd ed., p. 221). SIL International.

Compare:
The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, (2 Thess. 2:9 NIV)
 
Last edited:
for_his_glory said:
These miracles, signs and wonders will be done by holographic imagery projected out into all the world that everyone will see at the same time. Look up Project Blue Beam.
Click to expand...
Signs and wonders that lie, that convince people the Lawless One is the Christ. Notice how well that fits this prophecy, that on the Day of Judgment people who did Christian-like signs and wonders, but actually were Lawless, did them without the Spirit of Christ because "He never knew" them:

22 "Many will say to Me in that day,`Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
23 "And then I will declare to them,`I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' (Matt. 7:22-23 NKJ)

The only reason for Satan to do Christian like signs and wonders it to fool people the Lawless One is Christ and his followers Christians.

Paul gave him two titles, the first is "man of sin" meaning he condones all sorts of heresy and sin, claiming its OK with God. Then after 3.5 years he morphs into the "seed of Satan" (Gen. 3:15) "Son of Destruction", like Judas betraying all Christian profession to become "the Beast".

That's when he and his followers leave all pretense at being Christian. John saw this so clearly when he saw it happen in his time he calls it the "last hour":

18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.
(1 Jn. 2:18-19 NKJ)

endtimenews.net

What did the apostle John reveal when he said: “It is the last hour”? | End Time News

John saw the apostasy of miracle working schismatics leaving his church as fitting Christ's description of the End Time falling away (Mt. 7:22-23; 24:11-12; Mk. 13:22-23) and writes "it is the last hour". What did John mean? Was he speaking chronologically or did he thereby illustrate to every...
endtimenews.net
 
Last edited:
Alfred Persson said:
Paul gave him two titles, the first is "man of sin" meaning he condones all sorts of heresy and sin, claiming its OK with God. Then after 3.5 years he morphs into the "seed of Satan" (Gen. 3:15) "Son of Destruction", like Judas betraying all Christian profession to become "the Beast".
Click to expand...
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The hostile enemy (enmity) between Satan and the woman is that of Christ Jesus who is Satan's enemy. The son of perdition does not morph into the seed of Satan, but that of who Satan works through for the last time in order to try and destroy those who are Christ own, Romans 16:16:20; Galatians 4:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:9; Rev 12:7-17
 
for_his_glory said:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The hostile enemy (enmity) between Satan and the woman is that of Christ Jesus who is Satan's enemy. The son of perdition does not morph into the seed of Satan, but that of who Satan works through for the last time in order to try and destroy those who are Christ own, Romans 16:16:20; Galatians 4:4; 2 Thessalonians 2:9; Rev 12:7-17
Click to expand...
You didn't notice the wording, as the "seed of the woman" is literal, so is the "seed of Satan" "thy seed".

And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel." (Gen. 3:15 NKJ)
 
for_his_glory said:
I would hope that you would know that it is Satan that works his evil in and through man.

Click to expand...
Of course, through the "Lawless One". But its still Satan's power doing that signs and wonders, not the power of man through Government.

And its satan's power (energia) that is inspiring the "mystery of lawlessness" that inwardly convinces TARES to believe falsehood. The "secret power inspiring lawlessness" is spiritism, the same spiritism that had shaken the minds of the Thessalonians by "spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come". (2 Thess. 2:2 NKJ)

For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. (2 Thess. 2:7 NKJ)

Just as Satan sought to deceive the Thessalonians by taking their eyes away from God's Word to his spurious revelation through, so in the end time when those who do not love the truth of the Bible are completely deceived, because they took pleasure in the spiritism working lying signs and wonders:

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thess. 2:9-12 NKJ)

This isn't about projet Bluebook or anything man made.
 
Last edited:
Alfred Persson said:
Of course, through the "Lawless One". But its still Satan's power doing that signs and wonders, not the power of man through Government.
Click to expand...
The "lawless one" coming, that is even now working his evil in the world, is all of Satan's works through him as Satan himself can only perform deceptive lying miracles, signs and wonders on his own and by using others.

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders

The greatest lying sign will be that of technology through computer oriented holographic images of Christ that the whole world will see at the same time leading many to take the mark of the beast (son of perdition) who promises peace and safety after the destruction that happens in the word during the first six trumpets sounding. During the sounding of the seventh trumpet the 3 1/2 year reign of this last antichrist who is the son of perdition that could deceive the very elect of God if possible will take his seat upon the throne in Jerusalem and deceive the whole world that have no truth found in them.

Matthew 24:24; 2 Thessalonians 2:9; 1 Thessalonians 5:3; Rev 13:11-14
 
Alfred Persson said:
You didn't notice the wording, as the "seed of the woman" is literal, so is the "seed of Satan" "thy seed".

And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel." (Gen. 3:15 NKJ)
Click to expand...
Are you talking about the teaching on the serpent seed taught in the Shepard's Church that Arnold Murry and William Branham taught?
 
for_his_glory said:
At least get this right as it's call Project Bluebeam, which I know you never looked up or would believe it anyway.
Click to expand...
Excuse the typo. I vaguely recall reading or seeing Project Bluebeam, a pretend alien invasion. But there will be a real alien invasion, after the Arch Angel Michael kicks out of heaven Satan and his angels. They then appear on earth, likely disguised as ETs:

It is repeated more than three times Satan appears on the earth. When things are repeated in scripture, it is for emphasis, this will surely happen:

7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought,
8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.
11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.
12 "Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. (Rev. 12:7-13 NKJ)
 
for_his_glory said:
The "lawless one" coming, that is even now working his evil in the world, is all of Satan's works through him as Satan himself can only perform deceptive lying miracles, signs and wonders on his own and by using others.

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders

The greatest lying sign will be that of technology through computer oriented holographic images of Christ that the whole world will see at the same time leading many to take the mark of the beast (son of perdition) who promises peace and safety after the destruction that happens in the word during the first six trumpets sounding. During the sounding of the seventh trumpet the 3 1/2 year reign of this last antichrist who is the son of perdition that could deceive the very elect of God if possible will take his seat upon the throne in Jerusalem and deceive the whole world that have no truth found in them.

Matthew 24:24; 2 Thessalonians 2:9; 1 Thessalonians 5:3; Rev 13:11-14
Click to expand...
Your interpretation confuses the Lawless One with the mystery of lawlessness that was already at work deceiving the Thessalonians they were left behind. Satan through deceiving spirits, false word and fake apostolic letters made the Thessalonians believe the resurrection/gathering was already past:

1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. (2 Thess. 2:1-2 KJV)

Compare:
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some (2 Tim. 2:18 KJV)

The Mystery of Lawlessness inspires apostasy and heresy, it is the antithesis of the Mystery of Godliness that sanctifies the believer in the truth. You can see the two "mysteries" as work clearly, in the context:

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. (2 Thess. 2:7-15 KJV)


Another glaring disagreement between you and I is your the insistence Satan can't work REAL miracles. Here he transforms plant life into animal life:

11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.
12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.
(Exod. 7:11-12 KJV)

That can't be holographic trickery, Aaron's rod SWALLOWED up their rods, they were real.

Here Satan imitates God's turning water into blood and killing fish:

20 And Moses and Aaron did so, as the LORD commanded; and he lifted up the rod, and smote the waters that were in the river, in the sight of Pharaoh, and in the sight of his servants; and all the waters that were in the river were turned to blood.
21 And the fish that was in the river died; and the river stank, and the Egyptians could not drink of the water of the river; and there was blood throughout all the land of Egypt.
22 And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, neither did he hearken unto them; as the LORD had said. (Exod. 7:20-22 KJV)

Here Satan controls animal life:

7 And the magicians did so with their enchantments, and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt. (Exod. 8:7 KJV)

But Satan could not give life to dust, Only God can make what is dead, alive:

17 And they did so; for Aaron stretched out his hand with his rod, and smote the dust of the earth, and it became lice in man, and in beast; all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt.
18 And the magicians did so with their enchantments to bring forth lice, but they could not: so there were lice upon man, and upon beast.
19 Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.
(Exod. 8:17-19 KJV)

In Job we see Satan can control human armies, the weather and call fire down from heaven:
15 And the Sabeans fell upon them, and took them away; yea, they have slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
16 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The fire of God is fallen from heaven, and hath burned up the sheep, and the servants, and consumed them; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
17 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The Chaldeans made out three bands, and fell upon the camels, and have carried them away, yea, and slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
18 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, Thy sons and thy daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house:
19 And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. (Job 1:15-19 KJV)


Satan doesn't have to work counterfeit miracles. The whole point of 2 Thessalonians is that God gets out of Satan's way and stops restraining him.


For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. (2 Thess. 2:7 NKJ)

That is how God "sends the strong delusion", He stops restraining the "mystery of lawlessness" and all who do not love the truth of the bible will be deceived:

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2 Thess. 2:9-12 NKJ)

The false Christ "man of sin Lawless One" works REAL miracles, except raising the dead. To do that he'd have to fake it. That is what will convince Most of the Church to receive the Antichrist, as Christ.

By then they will have been so thoroughly weaned from obeying the Bible, and following their experiences....even when everything screams out "this is the Beast", they will ignore it.

Eventually, they will be convinced God is an Extraterrestrial who can be defeated at Armageddon by Satan and his angels, with humanity's help.

That's what the flying frogs out of the mouths of the Dragon, Beast and False Prophet symbolize---the ancient alien theory delusion:

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 "Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."
16 And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.
(Rev. 16:13-16 NKJ)
 
Last edited:
Alfred Persson said:
Your interpretation confuses the Lawless One with the mystery of lawlessness that was already at work deceiving the Thessalonians they were left behind. Satan through deceiving spirits, false word and fake apostolic letters made the Thessalonians believe the resurrection/gathering was already past:

1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. (2 Thess. 2:1-2 KJV)

Compare:
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some (2 Tim. 2:18 KJV)

The Mystery of Lawlessness inspires apostasy and heresy, it is the antithesis of the Mystery of Godliness that sanctifies the believer in the truth. You can see the two "mysteries" as work clearly, in the context:

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. (2 Thess. 2:7-15 KJV)


Another glaring disagreement between you and I is your the insistence Satan can't work REAL miracles. Here he transforms plant life into animal life:

11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.
12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.
(Exod. 7:11-12 KJV)

That can't be holographic trickery, Aaron's rod SWALLOWED up their rods, they were real.

Here Satan imitates God's turning water into blood and killing fish:

20 And Moses and Aaron did so, as the LORD commanded; and he lifted up the rod, and smote the waters that were in the river, in the sight of Pharaoh, and in the sight of his servants; and all the waters that were in the river were turned to blood.
21 And the fish that was in the river died; and the river stank, and the Egyptians could not drink of the water of the river; and there was blood throughout all the land of Egypt.
22 And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, neither did he hearken unto them; as the LORD had said. (Exod. 7:20-22 KJV)

Here Satan controls animal life:

7 And the magicians did so with their enchantments, and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt. (Exod. 8:7 KJV)

But Satan could not give life to dust, Only God can make what is dead, alive:

17 And they did so; for Aaron stretched out his hand with his rod, and smote the dust of the earth, and it became lice in man, and in beast; all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt.
18 And the magicians did so with their enchantments to bring forth lice, but they could not: so there were lice upon man, and upon beast.
19 Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.
(Exod. 8:17-19 KJV)

In Job we see Satan can control human armies, the weather and call fire down from heaven:
15 And the Sabeans fell upon them, and took them away; yea, they have slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
16 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The fire of God is fallen from heaven, and hath burned up the sheep, and the servants, and consumed them; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
17 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The Chaldeans made out three bands, and fell upon the camels, and have carried them away, yea, and slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
18 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, Thy sons and thy daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house:
19 And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. (Job 1:15-19 KJV)


Satan doesn't have to work counterfeit miracles. The whole point of 2 Thessalonians is that God gets out of Satan's way and stops restraining him.


For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. (2 Thess. 2:7 NKJ)

That is how God "sends the strong delusion", He stops restraining the "mystery of lawlessness" and all who do not love the truth of the bible will be deceived:

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2 Thess. 2:9-12 NKJ)

The false Christ "man of sin Lawless One" works REAL miracles, except raising the dead. To do that he'd have to fake it. That is what will convince Most of the Church to receive the Antichrist, as Christ.

By then they will have been so thoroughly weaned from obeying the Bible, and following their experiences....even when everything screams out "this is the Beast", they will ignore it.

Eventually, they will be convinced God is an Extraterrestrial who can be defeated at Armageddon by Satan and his angels, with humanity's help.

That's what the flying frogs out of the mouths of the Dragon, Beast and False Prophet symbolize---the ancient alien theory delusion:

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 "Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."
16 And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.
(Rev. 16:13-16 NKJ)
Click to expand...
I am no longer going to respond to your very long post. You need to come to your points of view with less wording.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top