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[gordon777]

This forum has a chance to do something about all the debating, to acknowledge that it is a sign of the evil world ending, debate is what is going to cause the world to end.

Peace is in Jesus Christ not in the world, the world has dispute and contention, in Jesus Christ there cannot be any, it has to be peaceable, it also has to not be the example of a forum, to pass time, create entertainment.

Jesus Christ calls us, not those people, to go to Him without the camp, to bear our own cross, to look only to Him in what He is doing for us, ( dying in pains, and despised by the people/no comforting.) and why would we hear the words of those exalted up in pride who are bearing nothing of Christ, evidenced by years and years of debate as their only interest in this life.



James 3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.



The forum is not an honest place, it is the same as any other forum, but the message of stopping dishonesty is told for us by Christ, and how to do it, or at the very least create a forum area, that has peace in it as its only focus, not of questions and answers, not of theology, not of anything but sharing the very words of Jesus Christ, and the doing of some of those things, which f anyone notices, not only is lacking on all Christian forums in the world, but on this forum also so far.


Matthew 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

1 Corinthians 4:11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;
12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.
14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

 

[WIP]

I wonder if you're confusing debating with fighting. A debate does not have to be contentious. Our pride gets in the way and this is what causes the confrontational attitudes.

 

[Bibleinvestigations]

I wonder if you're confusing debating with fighting. A debate does not have to be contentious. Our pride gets in the way and this is what causes the confrontational attitudes.

This forum has a chance to do something about all the debating, to acknowledge that it is a sign of the evil world ending, debate is what is going to cause the world to end.

Peace is in Jesus Christ not in the world, the world has dispute and contention, in Jesus Christ there cannot be any, it has to be peaceable, it also has to not be the example of a forum, to pass time, create entertainment.

Jesus Christ calls us, not those people, to go to Him without the camp, to bear our own cross, to look only to Him in what He is doing for us, ( dying in pains, and despised by the people/no comforting.) and why would we hear the words of those exalted up in pride who are bearing nothing of Christ, evidenced by years and years of debate as their only interest in this life.



James 3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.



The forum is not an honest place, it is the same as any other forum, but the message of stopping dishonesty is told for us by Christ, and how to do it, or at the very least create a forum area, that has peace in it as its only focus, not of questions and answers, not of theology, not of anything but sharing the very words of Jesus Christ, and the doing of some of those things, which f anyone notices, not only is lacking on all Christian forums in the world, but on this forum also so far.


Matthew 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

1 Corinthians 4:11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;
12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.
14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

Good username “777” and I agree with WIP. Thus far this site has been welcoming and tolerant of thoughts.

 

[grace2]

Good username “777” and I agree with WIP. Thus far this site has been welcoming and tolerant of thoughts.

I agree.

I am a non-trin yet I can post my position freely without being banned.

thank you.

 

[Hidden In Him]

The forum is not an honest place

Why is this forum not an honest place?

or at the very least create a forum area, that has peace in it as its only focus, not of questions and answers, not of theology, not of anything but sharing the very words of Jesus Christ,

See, here is something I have a serious problem with. People assuming that their posts are the only ones that "don't have any theology" in them, but are simply "sharing the words of Christ." It's presumptuousness at the highest levels, and even worse, it's a means of baselessly condescending to anyone who disagrees with them.

This is precisely why there should be debate, so that bad posting, poor reasoning, and ridiculously unsound theology not corrupt Christian forums like this.

 

[gordon777]

I wonder if you're confusing debating with fighting. A debate does not have to be contentious. Our pride gets in the way and this is what causes the confrontational attitudes.

Without acknowledgment and confessing of the wholesome words of Jesus Christ, there is no godliness.

This means all debate, disagreement, contention, strife, dispute, is not godliness.


1 Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;

 

[gordon777]

Why is this forum not an honest place?


See, here is something I have a serious problem with. People assuming that their posts are the only ones that "don't have any theology" in them, but are simply "sharing the words of Christ." It's presumptuousness at the highest levels, and even worse, it's a means of baselessly condescending to anyone who disagrees with them.

This is precisely why there should be debate, so that bad posting, poor reasoning, and ridiculously unsound theology not corrupt Christian forums like this.

Ask instead why his forum is an honest place ?

It is trying to justify all the things God said people would be doing, in a form of godliness for the ending time now. ( the form of godliness is that they do not acknowledge true godliness, which is agreement, and no divisions.

If the form was honest, it would be as honest as the Apostles of the Lord, who all showed their example, to follow.

The example of the moderators is to have a place of talk, and even of fighting, where is the example of anything at all of what the Lord Jesus Christ did always, or of the Apostles of the Lord likewise, it is nowhere to be found ever.

But what can be found, is the verses for the false prophet/teacher/apostles, whose end is according to their works. ( no works o good, n o fruit.)


Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Ask instead why his forum is an honest place ?

It is trying to justify all the things God said people would be doing, in a form of godliness for the ending time now. ( the form of godliness is that they do not acknowledge true godliness, which is agreement, and no divisions.

If the form was honest, it would be as honest as the Apostles of the Lord, who all showed their example, to follow.

The example of the moderators is to have a place of talk, and even of fighting, where is the example of anything at all of what the Lord Jesus Christ did always, or of the Apostles of the Lord likewise, it is nowhere to be found ever.

But what can be found, is the verses for the false prophet/teacher/apostles, whose end is according to their works. ( no works o good, n o fruit.)


Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

Gordon, I mean you no offense, but this is just gibberish. You regularly pose as a "teacher" of the word but all your posts are just prattle made to look like actual teaching. I ignore you, and I have been ignoring you for a long time now because your theological acumen is poor. The only reason I was responding to you now was because you were insulting the entire forum and staff, as if you are somehow the solution when in fact you are part of the problem.

I'm not surprised you did zero to actually answer my question, and that's how the rest of the conversation would go with you - a complete waste of anyone's time - so I'm going back to ignoring you, which is what any sensible member here would do.

God bless, and wish you the best,
Hidden

 

[Highway54]

This forum has a chance to do something about all the debating, to acknowledge that it is a sign of the evil world ending, debate is what is going to cause the world to end.

Peace is in Jesus Christ not in the world, the world has dispute and contention, in Jesus Christ there cannot be any, it has to be peaceable, it also has to not be the example of a forum, to pass time, create entertainment.

Jesus Christ calls us, not those people, to go to Him without the camp, to bear our own cross, to look only to Him in what He is doing for us, ( dying in pains, and despised by the people/no comforting.) and why would we hear the words of those exalted up in pride who are bearing nothing of Christ, evidenced by years and years of debate as their only interest in this life.



James 3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.



The forum is not an honest place, it is the same as any other forum, but the message of stopping dishonesty is told for us by Christ, and how to do it, or at the very least create a forum area, that has peace in it as its only focus, not of questions and answers, not of theology, not of anything but sharing the very words of Jesus Christ, and the doing of some of those things, which f anyone notices, not only is lacking on all Christian forums in the world, but on this forum also so far.


Matthew 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

1 Corinthians 4:11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;
12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.
14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

God's word is truth sir, would you consider Jesus' rejection of the words of satan a debate, or a revelation of truth. There simply are not two sets of truths, if a Christian observes someont teaching false words they attribute to God's teachings, they have the obligation to reveal the falsehood, correct?

 

[WIP]

Without acknowledgment and confessing of the wholesome words of Jesus Christ, there is no godliness.

This means all debate, disagreement, contention, strife, dispute, is not godliness.

So, when someone makes a statement they claim is the gospel when you see that is contrary to the gospel, do you just believe that person, agree with that person, or what? How do you handle that?

Incidentally, your post which I quoted is debating with me.

 

[Christ_empowered]

Debate is probably better here than on many Christian forums.

 

[grace2]

So, when someone makes a statement they claim is the gospel when you see that is contrary to the gospel, do you just believe that person, agree with that person, or what? How do you handle that?

I was just told by non-trin that I don't have the gospel of Jesus.

But I know my faith is to strive to live by Jesus' gospel.

So most of us read the Bible with our own understanding and only God can judge such things.

All we can do is state our perspectives.

BTW, I am a non-Trin.

thank you.

 

[Christ_empowered]

I dunno

Trinity is generally regarded as important for salvation. It’s fairly essential to Christianity. And yet…

I’m not God obviously.

 

[grace2]

Trinity is generally regarded as important for salvation.

Yes.

But Jesus' God is not a triune god.

Jesus' Father is His God and our God.

That's what Jesus says.

 

[gordon777]

Gordon, I mean you no offense, but this is just gibberish. You regularly pose as a "teacher" of the word but all your posts are just prattle made to look like actual teaching. I ignore you, and I have been ignoring you for a long time now because your theological acumen is poor. The only reason I was responding to you now was because you were insulting the entire forum and staff, as if you are somehow the solution when in fact you are part of the problem.

I'm not surprised you did zero to actually answer my question, and that's how the rest of the conversation would go with you - a complete waste of anyone's time - so I'm going back to ignoring you, which is what any sensible member here would do.

God bless, and wish you the best,
Hidden

Satan flees:

James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

 

[gordon777]

God's word is truth sir, would you consider Jesus' rejection of the words of satan a debate, or a revelation of truth. There simply are not two sets of truths, if a Christian observes someont teaching false words they attribute to God's teachings, they have the obligation to reveal the falsehood, correct?

No, it is a forum designed for entertainment, for convenience, for great swelling words of vanity.

Teaching that Jesus Christ did was by love, laying HIs life down for us, and the Apostles too laying their lives down for their friends.

The forum is people loving their life, not loosing it.

If you do not agree, then maybe others will see who we can ONLY agree to, it is the example we saw and heard in the Lords true Apostles.


1 Corinthians 4:11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;
12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.
14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

Philippians 4:9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

 

[gordon777]

So, when someone makes a statement they claim is the gospel when you see that is contrary to the gospel, do you just believe that person, agree with that person, or what? How do you handle that?

Incidentally, your post which I quoted is debating with me.

Avoid foolish questions and strifes of words, now I am not debating with you.


Proverbs 20:3 It is an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling.

1 Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

 

[gordon777]

Debate is probably better here than on many Christian forums.

Because debate has been exposed and is being exposed in this forum for what it is. ( ungodliness and the ending sign for the end of the world.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Satan flees:

James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

LoL. I'm Satan now Gordon?

DO explain. I enjoy being entertained, Lol.

 

[gordon777]

- a complete waste of anyone's time - so I'm going back to ignoring you, which is what any sensible member here would do.

God bless, and wish you the best,
Hidden

Try keeping to your words ( on a deceiving forum) of ignoring.


James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.



Why be seen to bless with their mouth only..

Psalm 62:4 They only consult to cast him down from his excellency: they delight in lies: they bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly. Selah.