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Christian Rap

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My parents don't believe in listening to Christian rap.They don't see anything Christian about it.They just judge it before they hear it , sometimes if you listen to the lyrics it's not the same as secular lyrics definitely not.I'm not even allowed to play it in the house, along with some Christian rock and roll,Ithink my parents have gone to far.
 
Yeah, but which came first secular or Christian rap that's one argument my parents have, that secular came first, and christian cam after.
 
Ah, Scripture teaches that which is not against us, is for us. Rap is a skill, that If a Christian can use for Christ's glory, who are we to denounce them? However, If you're parents disagree, obey them. :-?
 
Rats! I never get to do anything, uRRRgggghhhhh.
 
itoldyounoalready said:
Rats! I never get to do anything, uRRRgggghhhhh.

many people are ignorant and are stuck to what they feel comfortable to listen too and judge what they do not know by the appearance. Sometimes it's a cultural issues not always though


We cannot say that a style of music is inherently evil cuz Satan create NOTHING. God is the creator of all things. Saying that Satan created some things is speaking out of ignorance.

"Cuz I refuse to use man wisdom
I'm accused of delusional fanaticism, but it's musical evangelism
My Lyrics be the tracts and the tracts be the paper
The Spirit got my back so in fact this can save ya"

Personnaly I really like christian rap cuz it's raw and on point with scriptures and most of the time it's some straight up testimony. I mean when you say things like : "Without Gods definition you dont know who you are. Zion soldier for Jehovah, Yahweh, Jesus, Yeshua, God Elohim, El Shaddai pulled me outta tha sewer!". That's some great stuff !


But if your parents do not like rap music for different views let them listen to a snipplet of this:

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/browse/stor ... nd.7563115

It's Hip-Hop songs for worship. Basically the guy took some worship songs and rap on it with the choir. Listen to "come fill this place". It could help your parents to change their view on what rap is really is.

BTW Rap stands for "Rhytmn And Poetry".

I have some really doctrinal christian rap from chapter study to evangelisation rap to church relating rap but since most people like worship (which I do also) they might receive it less right than a sweet melody ;)
 
I personally don't think Christian rap is a good idea. I dunno... I just don't like the sound of it. =/
 
I don't know, sometimes it maybe required to reach those through music who don't usually listen to some coventional sorts of music.I mean you can just listen to the beats and ignore the message it's easy to do that with rap, but it ca nalso ba a viable alternative for others who like this particular genre but are saved an d no longer want to listen to worldly music, you know what I mean...
 
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The "Attitude" of the Music

If you don't think "music" "sound" has an effect on the nervous system and on the influence of behavior in a person you are mistaken.
It is sound, and any sound promotes an emotional response, it promotes an attitude and it effects sprout up in the spirit as well as in the body.
Don't kid yourself. Color, Sound, light, material substances all have an effect on the human being, it effects the well being of man. And, if you don't pay attention to what God is telling you about it, you are ignoring God and calling him a liar. Why do you think God forbade pagan type worship? The whole of it promoted an attitude of debauchery and it was in honor of the thing and the feelings they got from it, not from the God that created them. They worshiped the whole practice behind their idol worshipping.
If you aren't careful, your attitude can become a form of idolotry and you then worship your attitude more than the God who created you. God teaches us how to worship him, We are to do it with humility.

If you value this attitude that goes along with Rap and heavy metal, with punk rock and all those other types of music which promote arrogant behavior then you are amiss in what Godly character is in the eyes of God.

Since when do Godly people go about with arrogant punk like behaviors that mimic punks with arrogant carnal minded attitudes? No no! Jesus transforms the character and behavior of those who were sinners. He did not participate in their ungodly behaviors! He taught them a different behavior by the renewing of their mind, by being born again into the HOLY Spirit, that which is the same spirit in Christ Jesus Himself, one of Godly character and attitude.


Rap music, heavy metal music and punk type head banging music, has an "attitude" about it that is totally ungodly. It has an arrogance to it that is NOT becoming of Christian behavior.

Tell me.... why would God take the music of pagans and make it okay?
There is sound that is NOT going to be nice no matter what words you put into the lyrics.
You can't take the screech of skidding tire and make it sound as if it is a praise to the Lord.
You can't take the sound of a mad man and make it sound as if it is a praise to the Lord.
You can't take vulgar behavior and say it is praiseworthy. The drum beat of the demon is NOT the drumbeat of the Godly. Nor is the attitude of the devil the attitude of the Godly. You can't mimic the devil's mannerisms and say you are Godly!

  • Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! [/*:m:ee7d9]


I'm telling you, when I hear the sound coming out of those cars which drive by my house and all I hear is that ungodly sound of the drum and the bass in unison with that pagan devil type worship sound, it is NOT pleasant to the ear. That sound is promoting the attitude and arrogance from the devil himself! It is NOT from the HOLY, Good and PURE God character of God. :-? If anyone thinks that type of music, that type of sound is of God they are sadly mistaken.
You don't have to hear any lyrics to the song to decipher whether it is of Godly character or not. The music speaks for itself and the attitude of it is vulgar and it follows after worship music of the ancient pagans

How can anyone take something so vulgar in attitude and claim it to be music of a people who are supposed to be Christ like in character and behavior, those who are called saints? :o



To Rap and play heavy metal and punk music to God is so disrespectful in attitude. It's the attitude behind it that makes it so ungodly. And if you think the attitude of Rap and heavy metal, punk or head banging music is pleasing to God there is something amiss with your HUMILITY and RESPECT towards God. Same goes for any music that is of the flaunting of sexually alluring behavior (outside of marriage) type of music. Satan comes in the guise of the light which is appealing to the eye and senses of the carnal man. Anything that Satan presents gives itself an air of appeal to those who are not privy to the character and truth of what GOD CALLS GODLY. Carnal man only thinks of what is pleasing to man, not of what God deems as GODLY and pleasing to HIM. Beastly, vulgar type music is not of God, it is of the devil himself. And if people are going to fall for the lure of the devil in thinking it is not evil because they changed the lyrics, they are in for a surprise of finding that down the road, this type of music is not beneficial to the attitude of man.

That kind of music promotes arrogance in an ungodly and rude type of mannerism.
:sad

The fruits of the spirit do not include rude or arrogant, vulgar mannerisms.

Any type of music that promotes ungodliness is not what Christians should be listening to. Also, Sorry folks, but yes.... even some of the Rock N Roll music of the 50's through to the present, even some of the Beatles music, is ungoldy! Yes, much of music which "appears to be pleasant" is not pleasant in the eyes of God.




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Well can't we say the same for rock and roll and contemporary music then.
it says in the bible to praise him with trumpet and lyre, it doesn't specify in which genre.
I suppose that it depends on the person's attitude in what they are doing, if this is the only way you know in which to express yourself, go 4 it.Many ppl need that, in order to express their feelings toward God, I don't think it's the beat it's the words, your actions, the condition of your heart and the manner in which you present your praise to God.
Remeber, also the devil creates nothing, the devil can onlypervert that which has already been made.

Make a joyful noise unto the lord.
 
Relic, with all due respect, music is nothing more than sound waves, which can not ever have "moral" value.
 
relic does have a point about music it's true what he brings about the vibe of music I know it's true, as a musician it,s very true but we are human not animals, we have the opportunity to choose our music wisely and understand lyrics

I listen to the words first and foremost, not the beats, hence I prefer freestyle with no beats
 
I know what you are trying to say however i judge music by it's lyrics and content not the beats or waht ever..
 
itoldyounoalready said:
I know what you are trying to say however i judge music by it's lyrics and content not the beats or waht ever..

yeah same thing, as human and not animal we can understand and choose wisely
 
itoldyounoalready said:
I know what you are trying to say however i judge music by it's lyrics and content not the beats or waht ever..

yeah same thing, as human and not animal we can understand and choose wisely
 
itoldyounoalready said:
I know what you are trying to say however i judge music by it's lyrics and content not the beats or waht ever..

yeah same thing, as human and not animal we can understand and choose wisely
 
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Please Don't take any "sound" for granted,
The good or the bad of it.


You can't compromise the effects of sound on anything.
God didn't create sound to be of no effect on life.


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The Musical Hormone
Copyright © 1997 Norman M. Weinberger
and the Regents of the University of California. All Rights Reserved.

Music has well established psychological effects, including the induction and modification of cognitive states, moods and emotions. Were it not so, then marches would be played as readily at bedtime as at the half-time of football games, dirges would grace weddings. lullabies would be heard at parades and Gregorian chant would bombard our ears in supermarkets.


Table of Contents
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*The Musical Hormone
http://www.musica.uci.edu/mrn/V4I2F97.html#hormone
*The Neurobiology of Musical Learning and Memory
Music may set our toes "a-tapping", cause us to burst into song, send us into deep reverie, initiate recall of a specific experience, induce a deep emotional state, or produce an almost infinite number of mental and behavioral effects.

*Briefly Noted
*The Unconscious Musical Brain
*Recent Publications of Special Interest
*Matters of Opinion
*Music, Neuroscience, Physiology and Medicine
*Editor's Note


MuSICA currently provides all issues of MuSICA Research Notes. MRN is a newsletter of analysis and commentary on the broad field of research on music and behavior, including evolution, brain mechanisms, child development, perception, learning, memory, performance, health and related topics. The author of all material is Dr. Norman M. Weinberger.
http://www.musica.uci.edu/index.html


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Other sources:

Effects of music and sound on human health
Author: Roger W. Wicke, Ph.D.
http://www.rmhiherbal.org/review/2002-1.html#hist


Music on the Brain
Biologists and psychologists join forces to investigate how and why humans appreciate music
BY MICHAEL LEMONICK
http://www.time.com/time/teach/psych/unit1_article5.html


How Music Affects Your Kids...
What Parents Need to Know


* There is a moral component of music that is totally separate and independent of any lyrics and significantly impacts your children.
http://www.vanillafudge.com/link_backups/music2.htm




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