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[stovebolts]

Hey hey Jeff! good to see you around brother, hope all is well with you and yours.



That was off topic, but how many times does one need to respect topics having to do with sensationalizing/exploiting homosexuality? :o

Hey Destiny!
Been really busy lately. Got a new job and I just dont' have the time to reply or jump into things around here like I used to.. Job's cool though with great bennies! Even did some traveling a few weeks back and they put me in a suite for a week. Ha, wife was excited that I was traveling :-? Don't know it that was a good thing or not LOL!

Anyway, gotta run! Good to hear from you!

Ohh peace4all, keep trucking on your cause :smt023 and sorry for haven to run.

 

[Vic C.]

...They see Christians attacking one particular 'sin' on a regular basis while turning a blind eye to others. They, in effect, see much hypocrisy within Christianity.

By the way, I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question about Sodom and Gomorrah.[/color]

[quote:424a8]They, in effect, see much hypocrisy within Christianity.

Like exploiting homosexuality for the sake of 'reaction'. :-?[/quote:424a8]
Exactly, Destiny! THEY come here, post a bunch of pro-homosexual agenda, expect us to do or say nothing, YET... we get accused of attacking this one particular sin. :roll:

Sputnik, you know your statement was way off. I have brought this up before. We react to what is being posted and you all do a fine job of "baiting the hook" then cry FOUL when we react with a different "opinion" than you on this subject.

Post something condoning another sin like, adultry, stealing, child molestation, drug use, etc. and SEE if we don't respond in the same fashion.

BUT NO! "You" keep on bringing up the homosexual issue, not us. So please, go point fingers somewhere else.

Ohh peace4all, keep trucking on your cause and sorry for haven to run.

LOL Jeff, would that be a "rebel without a cause"?

Remember what Billy Joel sang many years ago?

"I once believed in causes too...
I had my pointless point of view...
but life went on no matter who was wrong or right."

I see no real reason for keeping yet another homosexual thread because most here can't discuss this as mature adults so... this thread will be locked by Sat., 12 AM E.D.S.T. so get in your digs.

 

[Poke]

I KNOW THERE HAS TO BE SOME ON THIS FORUM THAT AGREE WITH THIS GROUP BUT ARE STAYING SILENT.

Hello. This is my first post here. And, I agree with Phelps. He can be tasteless (which is what gets him attention), but he's closer to the truth than many of his critics. I don't know why he's trying to make the Iraq war into a homosexual issue (although, I do see some connection).

 

[destiny]

Ha, wife was excited that I was traveling Don't know it that was a good thing or not LOL!

LoL! Jeff, sometimes woman like the house to themselves...at least we can throw the kids a sandwhich, but it don't always work that wat when hubby's around. 8-)

Vic, I gree with your post...they keep pushing the homosexual thing while pointing their fingers at christians for disagreeing. Kinda like whats going on everywhere else out there.
It's unreal.

 

[peace4all]

Vic, I am sorry, but 99% of the posts that i post abotu republicans swindlign money, murdering iraqi's, lieing and cheating, go as "its not murder if it is doen for this reason" or completly ignored. But the democratic corruption, gets reply after reply after reply.

I do agree, you guys are against most other sins also, Heck, 99% of the people in the world think it is wrong to steal, and wrong to lie. But no one ever points the finger, unless it is at the side that doesn't support their agenda.

Rarely do i post bad about democrats, and RARER do the others that post current events post bad about republicans.

 

[SputnikBoy]

...They see Christians attacking one particular 'sin' on a regular basis while turning a blind eye to others. They, in effect, see much hypocrisy within Christianity.

By the way, I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question about Sodom and Gomorrah.[/color]

[quote:bba68]They, in effect, see much hypocrisy within Christianity.

Like exploiting homosexuality for the sake of 'reaction'. :-?

Exactly, Destiny! THEY come here, post a bunch of pro-homosexual agenda, expect us to do or say nothing, YET... we get accused of attacking this one particular sin. :roll:

Sputnik, you know your statement was way off. I have brought this up before. We react to what is being posted and you all do a fine job of "baiting the hook" then cry FOUL when we react with a different "opinion" than you on this subject.[/quote:bba68]

What particular statement of mine was way off? And, for the record it was NOT ME that raised the homosexual issue. All I did was to challenge the scripture that most Christians use to condemn the practice ...that is, the Sodom and Gomorrah scripture. I asked a legit question that has received no answers. I ask again, why was EVERONE but Lot and the family - men, women, children - destroyed by the wrath of God?

Post something condoning another sin like, adultry, stealing, child molestation, drug use, etc. and SEE if we don't respond in the same fashion.

You're gesting, vic. Homosexuals are the favorite whipping people of Christians. It's almost become a popular past-time. Child molestation, perhaps, since people get all emotional about this issue, but certainly none of the other issues you mentioned would raise the ire as does homosexuality.

BUT NO! "You" keep on bringing up the homosexual issue, not us. So please, go point fingers somewhere else.

Again, vic, I didn't bring it up. I saw the Sodom and Gomorrah principle being used and decided to ask a question that has bothered me for ages.

I see no real reason for keeping yet another homosexual thread because most here can't discuss this as mature adults so... this thread will be locked by Sat., 12 AM E.D.S.T. so get in your digs.

I sure hope I get a response to my question before then. And, this has NOT developed into a homosexual thread, vic. You're over-reacting.

 

[Vic C.]

What particular statement of mine was way off?

This one:

They see Christians attacking one particular 'sin' on a regular basis while turning a blind eye to others. They, in effect, see much hypocrisy within Christianity.

And, for the record it was NOT ME that raised the homosexual issue.

Not this time, I agree.

All I did was to challenge the scripture that most Christians use to condemn the practice ...that is, the Sodom and Gomorrah scripture.

No, not true. Many times, it is Paul's first chapter of Romans that gets the most posts overall and goes unchallanged. A very simple passage to understand from a writer that is hard to comprehend at times and all I got from you was it isn't clear.

Post something condoning another sin like, adultry, stealing, child molestation, drug use, etc. and SEE if we don't respond in the same fashion.

You're gesting, vic. Homosexuals are the favorite whipping people of Christians. It's almost become a popular past-time. Child molestation, perhaps, since people get all emotional about this issue, but certainly none of the other issues you mentioned would raise the ire as does homosexuality.

Try us.

It has become common practice here to start homosexual threads, despite our rules saying we deem it a sin and it is not to be condoned here. So, who are the defiant ones and why should we continue to tolerate it?

You weren't here a couple of years ago when we went 'round and 'round over the issue of whether or not smoking weed was acceptable in God's eyes. It went 14+ pages. Homosexuality is not the only topic that's gets our attention... it IS the MOST popular one for sure. It is now ripping through some of the Mainline denominations as we speak.

Those who condone this practice and feel it should be allowed into the churches and go unchecked, have little idea of God's overall plan for Mankind... at the very least, it goes against God's commandment to be fruitful and multiply. It has caused the outbreat and spreading on STDs' , but that's ok I guess, heh? All We Need is Love. (not God) BAH!

I sure hope I get a response to my question before then. And, this has NOT developed into a homosexual thread, vic.

You are correct, it didn't turn into homosexual thread... It Started Out As One!

http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html :

That was the "bait" I mentioned. Where do YOU think an OP like that will lead? Breast-feeding in public, I suppose.

Well. it's Sat. morning and the thread isn't locked so either:

1- I lied

2- I fell asleep before 12 AM

3- I decided to sleep on it before I locked it

What do we do about this topic? All of you who are believers but are on the fence or the other side of the fence need to take a stand. Are you so ashamed of the Gospel that you refuse to stand for righteousness sake?

The cock has crowed three times already. The fourth times it crows, this time may be at hand:

Rev 6:17 For the great day of His wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

 

[destiny]

People who condone sin think of themselves as mercifully 'righteous' before God, because they treated (sin) with love and tolerance in spight of what His word says about it.

It's the same spirit of "pride" that played into the destruction od sodom and gomorrah, which was...."we know better than God how to conduct our own lives".
God says His own words will judge between those who kept them and those who didn't on that day. It will be a terrible day.

 

[SputnikBoy]

People who condone sin think of themselves as mercifully 'righteous' before God, because they treated (sin) with love and tolerance in spight of what His word says about it.

It's the same spirit of "pride" that played into the destruction od sodom and gomorrah, which was...."we know better than God how to conduct our own lives".
God says His own words will judge between those who kept them and those who didn't on that day. It will be a terrible day.

Even so, let God be the judge and don't get in such a twist about it.

 

[destiny]

People who condone sin think of themselves as mercifully 'righteous' before God, because they treated (sin) with love and tolerance in spight of what His word says about it.

It's the same spirit of "pride" that played into the destruction od sodom and gomorrah, which was...."we know better than God how to conduct our own lives".
God says His own words will judge between those who kept them and those who didn't on that day. It will be a terrible day.

Even so, let God be the judge and don't get in such a twist about it.

I assure you that I am not in the least in a twist over this, just speaking my convictions.
Now, whether people see me as twisted or not is open to debate. :D

 

[Sunkissed]

"Study and be eager and do your utmost to present yourself to God approved (tested by trial), a workman who has no cause to be ashamed, correctly analyzing and accurately dividing [rightly handling and skillfully teaching] the Word of Truth.
But avoid all empty (vain, useless, idle) talk, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness.
And their teaching [will devour; it] will eat its way like cancer or spread like gangrene......
But the firm foundation of (laid by) God stands, sure and unbroken, bearing this seal (inscription). The Lord knows those who are His, and Let everyone who names (himself by) the name of the Lord give up all iniquity and stand aloof from it."
2 Timothy 2:15-17 and 19 (Amplified)

The last one standing, wins. :D

Sunny

 

[Soma-Sight]

Were there no women or children residing in the twin cities of Sodom & Gomorrah other than Lot's wife and daughters? If so, were the women and children also homosexuals? Otherwise, were the women and children so extraordinarily sinful that the only remedy available was for their destruction by God?

Why do Christians always point to homosexuality as having been the downfall of S&G when this was clearly not true? Questions, questions. Just what ARE we to do with the Bible?

Very good point.

Children oftentimes seem to get in the way of God's nuclear blasts......

 

[SputnikBoy]

There really ARE no answers available to we mere mortals. I mean, just HOW sinful can a 2 year-old be?

 

[destiny]

Are we to (judge) God as unjust because He didn't save anyone except Lot and his family??
What do you say to that sputnic and somasite?

 

[SputnikBoy]

Are we to (judge) God as unjust because He didn't save anyone except Lot and his family??
What do you say to that sputnic and somasite?

Hoo boy. I've had many a bone to pick with God in my time and I make no apologies for having done so. I figure that God can handle little ol' me without requiring anyone to spring to His defense.

Here is yet another 'bone'. You BET that I consider God unjust for having destroyed every man, woman and child (other than Lot and his family) in the twin cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Wouldn't ANY fair minded person question this?

 

[gingercat]

I figure that God can handle little ol' me without requiring anyone to spring to His defense.

No, sput,

God does not need our help whatsoever. However, do you just keep quite when your loved ones' are disgraced by others?

 

[SputnikBoy]

I figure that God can handle little ol' me without requiring anyone to spring to His defense.

No, sput,

God does not need our help whatsoever. However, do you just keep quite when your loved ones' are disgraced by others?

I'm not sure what you mean, ginger. By the way, welcome back. Seems like only a moment ago that you left. :wink:

 

[gingercat]

I figure that God can handle little ol' me without requiring anyone to spring to His defense.

No, sput,

God does not need our help whatsoever. However, do you just keep quite when your loved ones' are disgraced by others?

I'm not sure what you mean, ginger. By the way, welcome back. Seems like only a moment ago that you left. :wink:

If you read your own reply to destiy you know what I mean.

Your welcoming word and sarcasm don't go together.

 

[Vic C.]

Your welcoming word and sarcasm don't go together.

He's trying to be courteous by welcoming you. Let it go and let's please stay on topic, as much as I despise this topic. 8-)

Thanks.

 

[destiny]

I can understand why Ginger asked what she did....But in referance to our Father; He's never disgraced by man, only misrepresented.
I was going to expound scripture in defense of Him, but then I realized that scripture will never be enough in a case like this.
Thinking God as unjust is very much a relational faith trust and understanding issue.
It's something only God can illuminate, not words or arguments.
God is perfectly just and perfectly wise and all knowing.
I trust Him in all that he does, there is no injustice in Him.


PS Sputnic, I appreciate the fact that you are real. You aren't trying to be super spiritual in areas that you don't understand.
We all have those areas.