Christianity taken by force

[for_his_glory]

The people who wanted to destroy or change Christianity were the Jews, Pagans, Gnostic's, Mystics; and also the Catholics and Hellenist.

2 Corinthians 4
7 But we have this treasure in jars of clay (scriptures) to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. 8 We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; 9 persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed.

You might want to add Christians to that list, the ones who only teach a socially acceptable politically correct word of man

 

[for_his_glory]

Moses did not die, he was taken into heaven.

That is a whole other topic. If you would like to start a topic on this please tag me into it.

 

[donadams]

We are the jar of clay.

We are made of dust on the image of God .

Hebrews 10:16 kjv
16. This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17. PAnd their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Revelation 3:20

The destruction of a Christian is to put them back under the law of Moses.

Hebrews 6:6 kjv
6. If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Now there is
A list of accomplishments is in Hebrews 6

eddif

Evidence of the Catholics since it is the one and only church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles

Only Christ has authority to establish the church! Matt 16:18-19
One church! Jn 10:16 All others are sects “full of errors” “the tradition of men”! The new covenant Church is the eternal city of God! Household of faith! The pillar and ground of TRUTH! 1 Tim 3:15 Founded by Christ alone! Matt 16:18 on Peter and the apostles! Eph 2:20

All these and more Tried to destroy the ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST and failed!

FAILED COMPLETELY!

Roman Empire:
Barbarians:
Heretics:
Protestant fundamentalists:
Atheists:
Communists:
Modernists:

All failed but eternal church of Christ remains! Lk 1:32-33

ONE:
HOLY:
CATHOLIC:
APOSTOLIC:
Thanks

 

[donadams]

Prophecy of the new covenant and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5 (the church is the new Jerusalem the kingdom) gal 4:26 (one church) Jn 10:16

Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

Micah 4:1
But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

Daniel 7:18
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;

Rev 21: 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

Gal 4:26 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Holy mother church!



Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; see Isa 22:21-22
(Keys of the kingdom / jurisdictional authority) Matt 16:17-19

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Matt 21:43 taken from Israel given to Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21 eph 2:20


1 Peter 4:11
If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:8
Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Jude 1:25
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Christ is king and has all authority and dominion!

2 Corinthians 3:8
How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

 

[for_his_glory]

Evidence of the Catholics since it is the one and only church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles

Only Christ has authority to establish the church! Matt 16:18-19
One church! Jn 10:16 All others are sects “full of errors” “the tradition of men”! The new covenant Church is the eternal city of God! Household of faith! The pillar and ground of TRUTH! 1 Tim 3:15 Founded by Christ alone! Matt 16:18 on Peter and the apostles! Eph 2:20

All these and more Tried to destroy the ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST and failed!

FAILED COMPLETELY!

Roman Empire:
Barbarians:
Heretics:
Protestant fundamentalists:
Atheists:
Communists:
Modernists:

All failed but eternal church of Christ remains! Lk 1:32-33

ONE:
HOLY:
CATHOLIC:
APOSTOLIC:
Thanks

Excuse me, but the Roman Empire is the foundation of the Roman Catholic Church who have always taken Christians by force making martyrs of millions throughout the years. There is only one body of Christ with He being the head of the body and it has no building with a name above its door. 1 Corinthians 12:12-14; Philippians 2:8-9, Colossians 1:18.

The topic is not about the Catholic church so please stay on topic or start a new thread in the Catholic forum

 

[donadams]

Excuse me, but the Roman Empire is the foundation of the Roman Catholic Church who have always taken Christians by force making martyrs of millions throughout the years. There is only one body of Christ with He being the head of the body and it has no building with a name above its door. 1 Corinthians 12:12-14; Philippians 2:8-9, Colossians 1:18.

The topic is not about the Catholic church so please stay on topic or start a new thread in the Catholic forum

Can I ask a question?
Did God set up a kingdom that conquered the pagan Roman Empire?
Thanks

 

[for_his_glory]

Can I ask a question?
Did God set up a kingdom that conquered the pagan Roman Empire?
Thanks

Like I said, if you want to continue with this start a new thread in the Catholic forum and tag me into it. Please stay on topic as this is not about the Roman Catholic church.

Anymore post about the Catholic church will be deleted as being off topic.

 

[eddif]

Christianity taken by force



Matthew 3:8
They were being baptized by him in the Jordan River as they confessed their sins. When he saw that many of the Pharisees and Sadducees were stepping forward for this bath, he said to them: "You brood of vipers! Who told you to flee from the wrath to come? Give some evidence that you mean to reform. Do not pride yourselves on the claim, 'Abraham is our father.' I tell you, God can raise up children to Abraham from these very stones."

Luke 16:16 The Law.
"The law and the prophets were in force until John. From his time on, the good news of God's kingdom has been proclaimed, and people of every sort are forcing their way in. It is easier for the heavens and the earth to pass away than for a single stroke of a letter of the law to pass.

Matthew 11:11
"I solemnly assure you, history has not known a man born of woman greater than John the Baptizer. Yet the least born into the Kingdom of God is greater than he. From John the Baptizer's time until now the kingdom of God has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force."

Matthew 21:37
"Finally he sent his son to them, thinking, "They will respect my son.' When they saw the son, the tenants said to one another, 'Here is the one who will inherit everything. Let us kill him and then we shall have his inheritance!" With that they seized him, dragged him outside the vineyard, and killed him."

Matthew 12:14
When the Pharisees were outside they began to plot against him to find a way to destroy him.

2 Peter 2:1
"But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them....

2 Peter 2:2
And many shall follow their destructive ways, and because of them evil shall be spoken of the way to the truth

This is really a tough thread to respond to.
The title is about Christianity.

The original First Post starts with John the Baptist, who preparing the way that introduces the ministry of Jesus.
With
The baptism of Repentance and believe in the one who comes after me.

Then the post goes to the plot to destroy Jesus.

Finally the future false teachers.

It is really difficult to have a defined area of conversation.

The real bondage is the circumcision party that tries to rule by force to the following:

The thread title might better be….
(Christianity Taken by Force Back Under the Law of Moses)

If that fails the next option is the destruction of Christianity.

If that fails the hoped perversion of Christianity by introducing heresy into the Church.

Christians were persecuted with imprisonment and death, because the way
threatens the then active jewish religious authority.m, but it survived.

One thread is really loaded with all that information.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[CherubRam]

This is really a tough thread to respond to.
The title is about Christianity.

The original First Post starts with John the Baptist, who preparing the way that introduces the ministry of Jesus.
With
The baptism of Repentance and believe in the one who comes after me.

Then the post goes to the plot to destroy Jesus.

Finally the future false teachers.

It is really difficult to have a defined area of conversation.

The real bondage is the circumcision party that tries to rule by force to the following:

The thread title might better be….
(Christianity Taken by Force Back Under the Law of Moses)

If that fails the next option is the destruction of Christianity.

If that fails the hoped perversion of Christianity by introducing heresy into the Church.

Christians were persecuted with imprisonment and death, because the way
threatens the then active jewish religious authority.m, but it survived.

One thread is really loaded with all that information.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

Christians were persecuted by everyone around them, and also there were those who wanted to destroy Christianity; and besides that there were those who wanted to take control of Christianity. Eventually Christianity was made a state religion by Rome.

 

[eddif]

Christians were persecuted by everyone around them, and also there were those who wanted to destroy Christianity; and besides that there were those who wanted to take control of Christianity. Eventually Christianity was made a state religion by Rome.

You make my point, in a sense.

While Christianity is made up of Christians, there is a difference in persecution, destruction, control, and total rule over faith and practice.

Yet we are trying to discuss all these items under one title statement.

To discuss the title statement may be possible, these other items keep popping up.
Your quoted post here is very broad.

I would admit I see the parallels on a lot of levels, but some want a defined area of reference.

We try and address one area, and you respond with 5 other areas. I get that, but that is not the way others respond.

PaRDeS makes no sense to some. You state an aversion to PaRDeS, but your many scripture levels without text about your belief leave many lost in the conversation.

Am I guilty of the same thing? It seemed so.

Try and stick to the title single area. I will try to do the same.

eddif

 

[eddif]

Acts 15:1 kjv
1. And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

I would say that is taking Christianity by force to the belief of the Judaizers aka Circumcision party.

Peter was led astray, that would include Christian Jews as well as gentile Christians.

eddif