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Christmas not Christian

PotLuck said:
The Lord WANTS you to rejoice in His name. Sure, I rejoice every day in Him but His birth is worth at least some sort of heightened recognition I would think. Surely this is an event worth celebrating.

The Lord WANTS you to rejoice in His name.
There's is a lot of scripture to prove this out.

Exo 15:20 And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.
Exo 15:21 And Miriam answered them, Sing ye to the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.

Psa 149:1 Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.
Psa 149:2 Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.
Psa 149:3 Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp.

2Sa 6:13 And it was so, that when they that bore the ark of the LORD had gone six paces, he sacrificed oxen and fatlings.
2Sa 6:14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

Jer 31:13 Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, both young men and old together: for I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow.

Even though these verses mainly talk about eating food and judgement, perhaps these scriptures apply on this subject as well.

Romans 14:5-6 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

God bless,

Robert
 
There's a lot of scripture on rejoicing. Christians are not forbidden from doing so. We also celebrate Easter, one of the most important events known to christianity. His birth, His ressurection. Both extraordinary events and the basis of the whole of christian faith. His birth, His ressurection. Now that's something to rejoice about!

MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL!!!!!
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PotLuck said:
There's a lot of scripture on rejoicing. Christians are not forbidden from doing so. We also celebrate Easter, one of the most important events known to christianity. His birth, His ressurection. Both extraordinary events and the basis of the whole of christian faith. His birth, His ressurection. Now that's something to rejoice about!

MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL!!!!!
:smt034 :smt035 :smt038 :smt041


God bless you Potluck!

Robert
 
jesus was more than likely born sometime in late sept. or early oct. the reason i know this is because the scripture indicates that there were "sheperds abiding in the fields keeping watch over there flocks by night." these sheperds because they were intelligent and reasonable men were NOT doing this in late December. We know as well that the wise men DID NOT see Jesus laying in a manger at the time of his birth, neither were there 3 of them. the wise men didn't see Jesus until he was at least 2 years old. there were 3 gifts that were presented by these wise men as a tribute to the Christ child (toddler) because it was customary. nothing would indicate that there were 3 wise men only that however many there were that they presented 3 gifts (gold,frankensence and mirth) there was only one observence that Jesus commanded us to commemerate and that was the Lord's supper. "as often as you do THIS do this in rememberance of me." as far as i am concerned personally there is absolutely no difference between the way allegedly "born again" people celebrate Christmas (for whatever their reasons) and the way the heathen celebrate it (for whatever THEIR reasons.
 
4Israel said:
jesus was more than likely born sometime in late sept. or early oct. the reason i know this is because the scripture indicates that there were "sheperds abiding in the fields keeping watch over there flocks by night." these sheperds because they were intelligent and reasonable men were NOT doing this in late December. We know as well that the wise men DID NOT see Jesus laying in a manger at the time of his birth, neither were there 3 of them. the wise men didn't see Jesus until he was at least 2 years old. there were 3 gifts that were presented by these wise men as a tribute to the Christ child (toddler) because it was customary. nothing would indicate that there were 3 wise men only that however many there were that they presented 3 gifts (gold,frankensence and mirth) there was only one observence that Jesus commanded us to commemerate and that was the Lord's supper. "as often as you do THIS do this in rememberance of me." as far as i am concerned persoanally there is absolutely no difference between the way allegedly "born again" people celebrate Christmas (for whatever their reasons) and the way the heathen celebrate it (for whatever THEIR reasons.

:lol:
I don't care about the exact date Christ was born but rather that He WAS born.

allegedly "born again" people
I see.
Oh well. I pray someday you'll recieve the gift of God, His saving grace through Jesus Christ.

The 3 wise men? Yes, they saw Christ at least two years later and I too point this out. This year my mother set the nativity under the Christmas tree and I corrected her by scripture. The wise men were removed because she believed the Word of God.

"In rememberance of me"
Oh yes, very solid spiritual relevance here. Agreed.

Merry Christmas 4Israel !!!!!

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bibleberean said:
Romans 14:5-6 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

God bless,

Robert
I think this fit quite well.
One thing we need to remember is our relationship with God is a personal one. That means that each and every person has a slightly different personal relationship with God. No one relationship is better just different.
If God has convicted you to celebrate Christmas as the birth of Jesus then by all mean do so and celebrate it unto the Lord.
In my case I have not been convicted that way and I praise God for that as well.

My only caution is not to do something because of tradition. Search out the truth and pray that God will show you the truth. He will show you what he wants from you and it may be different from what he wants from me.
As for me I wish I wasn't convicted the way I am because it makes this time of year very difficult for me but I accept it gladly.

God bless,
Norm
 
NRoof said:
bibleberean said:
Romans 14:5-6 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

God bless,

Robert
I think this fit quite well. One thing we need to remember is our relationship with God is a personal one. That means that each and every person has a slightly different personal relationship with God. No one relationship is better just different.
If God has convicted you to celebrate Christmas as the birth of Jesus then by all mean do so and celebrate it unto the Lord.
In my case I have not been convicted that way and I praise God for that as well.

My only caution is not to do something because of tradition. Search out the truth and pray that God will show you the truth. He will show you what he wants from you and it may be different from what he wants from me.
As for me I wish I wasn't convicted the way I am because it makes this time of year very difficult for me but I accept it gladly.

God bless,
Norm

Fair enough :smt023

My only caution is not to do something because of tradition.

Most holidays are traditional but the birth of Christ isn't just traditional. God came to man because man can't be worthy to go to Him. Birth and ressurection of Christ. Not tradition, but the whole of the christian world. Worth celebrating!!
 
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4Israel said:
obviously because they don't know any better.

Then tell them why. Shout it from the rooftops!!!!
"For unto us a child is born..."
:wink:
 
Oh, by the way.

Thank you NRoof for your nonconfrontational replies. Though we may have differences of opinion in some areas I truly respect the spirit in which your replies in this thread are given.

peace
 
PotLuck said:
Oh, by the way.

Thank you NRoof for your nonconfrontational replies. Though we may have differences of opinion in some areas I truly respect the spirit in which your replies in this thread are given.

peace
Thank you for the kind words.
As far as how I reply I try to be the same here as I would be in person. I won't get into arguments here as I don't feel they benefit anyone and in fact do more damage than anything else. I always try to remember that just because people aren't posting doesn't mean they aren't reading. There may be people trying to make a decision for God and if they see me being confrontational they may very well decide against God because of the tone of my words.
My job is simple, present the truth the best I know it and let God do the rest. I alway leave open the possibility that my interpretation is wrong which means I am willing to listen to another's point of view and weigh it against Gods word.
God bless,
Norm
 
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