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Church of Christ a cult ?

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Oscar3

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I have a friend, his mane is kenny.
He has been attending a church of Christ for some time and really I never gave it a second though. Well it turns out he is moving away and was told by his pasture that unless he joins another church of Christ his salvation is in jeoporady. So I told him I would look into it and lo and behold the internet is full of articles and where there is smoke there is fire.

Here is a little taste of what I have found.

What do the Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Catholics, and the Church of Christ denomination all have in common? They each claim to have THE Way; THE Truth; and THE Life, and that no one gets to heaven without being a part of their organization! Certainly they can't all be right since their individual doctrinal beliefs are diametrically opposed to one another. On this web site we will endeavor to examine the claim of the Church of Christ to be God's sole representative on the earth today, and answer the question, "Is the Church of Christ Denomination A Cult? You will notice that most scriptural quotations are taken from the New American Standard Bible, which is considered by most scholars to be the most literal word for word translation extant today.

http://www.chocd.org/

If anybody has some advice for him, he would be greatful.
I asked him to join the forum and will be doing that tomarrow
 
As far as I know not all Church's of Christ are the same denominaton here in NZ but some are legalistic. So which 'Church of Christ' are you referring to?
 
Wow... I just found this thread.

First,
This should not be in Apologetics.

Second,
Being a recent (10 years) member of the Church of Christ, I can tell you that you will find an array of attitudes among different congregations within the Churches of Christ. Each church sustains itself and is not accountable to any other congregation by any other means than Christ.
What one will find as a constant in the Churches of Christ is a core set of ideas that are biblically based.

1. Baptism as a part of ones salvation.
2. Lords Supper each Lords Day.
3. No musical instruments in worship. (although some Churches of Christ do have instruments, but they are shunned as a whole).

Culture does, and always will play a role in the Church as those in the bible belt (known for long debates with the baptist) tend to be a bit more legalistic while those in lets say a third world country tend to be a bit more expressive.

A common theme tends to be, "If it's not a salvation issue, then it's not an issue". Where the arguments stems, is what is considered a salvation issue to begin with...
 
I agree with StoveBolts. The fact that this guy's salvation may be in jeopardy is only the opinion of that one pastor. Many congregations in the Churches of Christ do believe many different things. However, it does come down to those basic three issues. For someone from a Church of Christ to make the statement that was made, would be no different than a Baptist or Methodist minister speaking the same words. They would all just be confused, as to true central doctrine of the faith.
 
I just want to add my 2 cents regarding various groups claiming if you do not belong to them, that you are not a Christian or whatever.

I think where many are coming from is that they think they have the true interpretation of the bible and if one disagrees, then one is effectively going against the bible (in their opinion).

The bottom line, if one wants to challenge them, to keep the denomination, cult or whatever one wants to call it out of the picture and focus more on their so-called biblical beliefs.

This is why I don't put down any group, per se.

Frankly, I hold some very unorthodox beliefs myself (but I think my major doctrines are mainline) and you'd be surprise how many people call me a "racist" or "Armstrong" or whatever. I never even was raised in those churches. My background was Protestant Evangelical Congregational and I now belong to a mainline denomination---- but my beliefs differ somewhat.

I think people that need the group to label their beliefs may have a hard time going to it on their own. Likewise, I hate it when people try to box me into a certain group.
 
tim_from_pa said:
I just want to add my 2 cents regarding various groups claiming if you do not belong to them, that you are not a Christian or whatever.

I think where many are coming from is that they think they have the true interpretation of the bible and if one disagrees, then one is effectively going against the bible (in their opinion).

The bottom line, if one wants to challenge them, to keep the denomination, cult or whatever one wants to call it out of the picture and focus more on their so-called biblical beliefs.

This is why I don't put down any group, per se.

Frankly, I hold some very unorthodox beliefs myself (but I think my major doctrines are mainline) and you'd be surprise how many people call me a "racist" or "Armstrong" or whatever. I never even was raised in those churches. My background was Protestant Evangelical Congregational and I now belong to a mainline denomination---- but my beliefs differ somewhat.

I think people that need the group to label their beliefs may have a hard time going to it on their own. Likewise, I hate it when people try to box me into a certain group.
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Oh, so you are one of those "I-Refuse-To-Be-Boxed-In" types, huh?! :shocked!:
 
Is the Church of Christ a cult?

Oscar3, I'm curious how old you are. You seem to have a problem with spelling and grammar.
 
Is the Church of Christ a cult?

Oscar3, I'm curious how old you are. You seem to have a problem with spelling and grammar.

As a matter of fact, it's not only you. I don't know why it is, but so many contributors on other links have the same problem.

Is it because people are in such a hurry that they don't want to take the time to proof read and correct where necessary?
 
I’ve never been that great at either spelling or grammar and I know that I’m guilty of not proof reading everything before I post either. But yes, sometimes I don’t have much time; it really depends on the day and often I find myself typing in that little itsy bitsy box totally ignoring the spelling button just below it. If it bugs you, please let me know and I’ll reduce the times I don’t proof read.

Most of the time I try and do my stuff in Word and believe it or not, I don’t post in a lot of hot topics because when I do, I usually try and make the effort to articulate my words in a concise manner, which doesn’t come easy to me all the time and does consume more of my time which I am usually lacking to begin with, but not always.
 
oscar3 said:
I have a friend, his mane is kenny.
He has been attending a church of Christ for some time and really I never gave it a second though. Well it turns out he is moving away and was told by his pasture that unless he joins another church of Christ his salvation is in jeoporady. So I told him I would look into it and lo and behold the internet is full of articles and where there is smoke there is fire.

Here is a little taste of what I have found.

What do the Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Catholics, and the Church of Christ denomination all have in common? They each claim to have THE Way; THE Truth; and THE Life, and that no one gets to heaven without being a part of their organization! Certainly they can't all be right since their individual doctrinal beliefs are diametrically opposed to one another. On this web site we will endeavor to examine the claim of the Church of Christ to be God's sole representative on the earth today, and answer the question, "Is the Church of Christ Denomination A Cult? You will notice that most scriptural quotations are taken from the New American Standard Bible, which is considered by most scholars to be the most literal word for word translation extant today.

http://www.chocd.org/

If anybody has some advice for him, he would be greatful.
I asked him to join the forum and will be doing that tomarrow
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FYI
If anyone wants to know what the Church of Christ believes as far as being the "Only Ones"... Here is an Church of Christ site by Rubel Shelly.

Does the church of Christ consider itself the ONLY church?
 
Hi Oscar3,
re: is the church of Christ a cult?

Early on in the piece I attended a church of Christ for a couple of years - it was not a cult. As has been pointed out there is great variety between churches of Christ which operate independently or in association with one another.

In subsequent years I have met members of cults and at one point lived opposite a JW for about ten years and had extensive discussions -disagreements with him on and off.

As a result of meeting this neighbour - and over the years meeting and getting to know many, many church folk - without being uncharitable - and despite holding to orthodox christian beliefs and practice - some of these folks exhibited the same traits as my one time JW neighbour. In fact these traits were so similar that I was astounded. I am not referring to the marks of a true Christian or the counterfeit marks of a false one. Rather this is a one of those observations that has taken me a lifetime to come to - others have no doudt seen it more quickly.

blessings: stranger
 
StoveBolts said:
FYI
If anyone wants to know what the Church of Christ believes as far as being the "Only Ones"... Here is an Church of Christ site by Rubel Shelly.

Does the church of Christ consider itself the ONLY church?
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First, do the non-instumental Church of Christ members listen to instrumental music on CDs, Radio, Television, Concerts, etc.? Why or why not?

Second, when are believers to worship God? For an hour on Sundays, for two hours on Sunday, longer on Sunday, more than on Sunday, perhaps on Tuesday also, Every day of the week? Please explain.
 
Mutz,
Oscar's studying for more important things. It's all good ;-)

Solo said:
First, do the non-instumental Church of Christ members listen to instrumental music on CDs, Radio, Television, Concerts, etc.? Why or why not?
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Not sure what this has to do with our corporate worship :-? What exactly are you digging for?

Solo said:
Second, when are believers to worship God? For an hour on Sundays, for two hours on Sunday, longer on Sunday, more than on Sunday, perhaps on Tuesday also, Every day of the week? Please explain.
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Again, not sure what your digging for... The particular congregation that I attend has two services on Sunday morning and one Sunday evening. We also have a corporate worship on Wednesday evening before our Bible classes.
 
Re: Is the Church of Christ a cult?

Bick said:
Oscar3, I'm curious how old you are. You seem to have a problem with spelling and grammar.
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Bick
I am 63 years old. I have no formal education and am self taught.
I am what I am. I never even graduated from High School and did not learn how to read or write until I was 30 years old. So no, my writing skills are not very good. Inspight of all this, I started a furniture making company when I was 29 years old and it grew to the point where I had 150 Employes and I sold it to McMan furniture inc. back in 1991 and am now a multimillionare. So while I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, and my figure of speech is like that of Moses, atleast I am smart enough to believe and understand such things like Annihalation is false, The trinity is true, Jesus is God and unlike you, I don't pretend to know what I am talking about. Bick you need to remove the plank from your own eye, then again what would you know about what the scriptures teach.
 
mutzrein said:
Oscar . . . oh Oscar . . . how about coming out of retirement and answering a few questions huh?
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Mut
Glad to see you have missed me. I went on vacation and so my internet time was very limited. Guess what I AM BACK :wink: Flew in last night.
back to the battle.
 
oscar3 said:
Mut
Glad to see you have missed me. I went on vacation and so my internet time was very limited. Guess what I AM BACK :wink: Flew in last night.
back to the battle.
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Welcome back, Oscar. :D
 
oscar3 said:
Mut
Glad to see you have missed me. I went on vacation and so my internet time was very limited. Guess what I AM BACK :wink: Flew in last night.
back to the battle.
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Ah - once more into the breech eh Oscar. How about using live ammo instead of the firing the usual blanks tho :wink:
 
So Mut.
Tell me. Since you do not believe Jesus to be God and you do not believe the HOLY SPIRIT to be God and since you do not believe in the trinity and yet you say that you are born again, What spirit is it that indwells you?
 
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