Confession

[Rollo Tamasi]

In the end times, will Roman Catholics still be going to confession?
Will it help them get into heaven?
Does the book of Revelation address this?

 

[GodsGrace]

The book of Revelation does not address confession.

It's interesting that this book was written by John.
The same John who wrote the gospel, in which he states that Jesus breathed on the Apostles and gave them the power to forgive sins.

This is the scripture the CC uses to validate confession:
John 20:22.23

I believe that in the end times Catholics will be going to confession even more than they would normally, since they believe getting into heaven depends on this. It is, however, possible to be forgiven even for mortal sin if death is at the door - with a perfect contrition.

W

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

The book of Revelation does not address confession.

It's interesting that this book was written by John.
The same John who wrote the gospel, in which he states that Jesus breathed on the Apostles and gave them the power to forgive sins.

This is the scripture the CC uses to validate confession:
John 20:22.23

I believe that in the end times Catholics will be going to confession even more than they would normally, since they believe getting into heaven depends on this. It is, however, possible to be forgiven even for mortal sin if death is at the door - with a perfect contrition.

W

Please explain this catholic "contrition".

 

[GodsGrace]

Please explain this catholic "contrition".

The explanation of contrition can be found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Paragraph numbers are used, not page numbers. Contrition is explained in numbers 1451 to 1453.

Contrition is the sorrow one feels for having sinned, the detestation for the sin committed and is combined with the resolution not to sin again. These are prerequisites for absolution in the sacrament of confession.
If one is missing, the person cannot be forgiven.

Venial sins do not need to be confessed. They can be confessed directly to God.

Mortal sins must be confessed. If death is imminent, a person can receive pardon of a mortal sin even if confession is not available, but only by Perfect Contrition.

Perfect Contrition arises out of a pure love for God. One is sorry to have offended God.

Imperfect Contrition arises more out of the fear of eternal damnation, however a prompting of the Holy Spirit can bring one from this state t the state of perfect contrition.

W

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I'll answer it for you.
An act of contrition "as hope for God's mercy" is what the Roman Catholic church teaches as exceptable contrition.
It is called "interior repentance".
It is a radical reorientation of one's whole life, a return, a conversion to God with all your heart, an end of sin, a turning away from evil, with repugnance toward the evil actions we have committed.
At the same time it entails the desire and resolution to change one's life, with hope in God's mercy and trust in the help of his grace.
This conversion of heart is accompanied by a salutary pain and sadness which the "Fathers" called "animi cruciatus" (affliction of spirit) and "compunctio cordis" (repentance of heart).

This is found in the Catechism of the Catholic church, section IV, part 1431, page 399.

This sounds an awful lot like being born again.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

The explanation of contrition can be found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Paragraph numbers are used, not page numbers. Contrition is explained in numbers 1451 to 1453.

Contrition is the sorrow one feels for having sinned, the detestation for the sin committed and is combined with the resolution not to sin again. These are prerequisites for absolution in the sacrament of confession.
If one is missing, the person cannot be forgiven.

Venial sins do not need to be confessed. They can be confessed directly to God.

Mortal sins must be confessed. If death is imminent, a person can receive pardon of a mortal sin even if confession is not available, but only by Perfect Contrition.

Perfect Contrition arises out of a pure love for God. One is sorry to have offended God.

Imperfect Contrition arises more out of the fear of eternal damnation, however a prompting of the Holy Spirit can bring one from this state t the state of perfect contrition.

W

Thank you Mrs. wondering, we both replied.

 

[GodsGrace]

I'll answer it for you.
An act of contrition "as hope for God's mercy" is what the Roman Catholic church teaches as exceptable contrition.
It is called "interior repentance".
It is a radical reorientation of one's whole life, a return, a conversion to God with all your heart, an end of sin, a turning away from evil, with repugnance toward the evil actions we have committed.
At the same time it entails the desire and resolution to change one's life, with hope in God's mercy and trust in the help of his grace.
This conversion of heart is accompanied by a salutary pain and sadness which the "Fathers" called "animi cruciatus" (affliction of spirit) and "compunctio cordis" (repentance of heart).

This is found in the Catechism of the Catholic church, section IV, part 1431, page 399.

This sounds an awful lot like being born again.

The above is listed under "interior Penance"

Everything you say is correct, but you asked regarding "contrition" and that will be found in the paragraphs I posted.

Oddly enough, and much to the surprise of many, the RCC teaches the same Jesus we do. Every priest, Deacon, Bishop, Cardinal, and dare I say, even the Pope, believes that it is Jesus that saves and that we must REPENT and believe in Jesus in order to be saved.

They say they don't believe in works and do refer to Ephesians 2:8 just like we do, but then we have confession and it tends to make one depend on himself and his ability instead of depending on Jesus.

W

 

[GodsGrace]

Thank you Mrs. wondering, we both replied.

Strange.

 

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