Could The USA Be Babylon?

[Osgiliath]

Originally Posted by digging,

Science, technology, political change etc. So I ask you to consider she is the embodiment of all things people believe in outside of what God is offering mankind.

I can agree with that..... to a certain point.

"Mystery: Babylon the Great" is not easily detected by the 'world still within us', and to make certain Babylon is not too soon detected within us, she performs "many wonderful works", and we are even told that she is filled with "gold, silver and precious stones", which are the very symbols of the materials with which we are to build upon Christ (see below). So we do not see the depth of her tentacles within our way of life, until it is "revealed by fire".

1 Corinthians 3:11 "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1 Corinthians 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try EVERY man's work of what sort it is."

 

[Mitspa]

I can agree with that..... to a certain point.

"Mystery: Babylon the Great" is not easily detected by the 'world still within us', and to make certain Babylon is not too soon detected within us, she performs "many wonderful works", and we are even told that she is filled with "gold, silver and precious stones", which are the very symbols of the materials with which we are to build upon Christ (see below). So we do not see the depth of her tentacles within our way of life, until it is "revealed by fire".

1 Corinthians 3:11 "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1 Corinthians 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try EVERY man's work of what sort it is."

Yes i see your point here! These very things!

Your are very sharp Osg! Do you hold to any formal religious group?
I think it could help some of us understand your points on this thread? (which i find very interesting) if we knew a little about how you see your religious or spiritual body?

 

[digging]

Well let's talk about this a little more. You said she is filled with these things but the vs adds a small interesting point that could mean differently.

Revelation 17:4 NAS

The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a gold cup full of abominations and of the unclean things of her immorality,

Rather than being filled, she is trying to cloth herself in the valuable items. Could we compare that to the many, many different ideologies out there that are trying to put on from the outside some kind of importance or false 'value'?

Also recall that she is the 'mother'

Revelation 17:5 NAS

and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, "BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

That's why I'm seeing her as a real 'mixed bag' as it were of all the false belief systems mankind holds and puts trust in. She is the mother of all these belief systems even beyond just religion.

Perhaps this could even be connected to how we trust in the global societies to feed and care for us all.....like a 'mother' caring for mankind? Something to really think about deeply I feel, leave no stone unturned.

Digging

 

[John 8:32]

Well let's talk about this a little more. You said she is filled with these things but the vs adds a small interesting point that could mean differently.

Revelation 17:4 NAS

The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a gold cup full of abominations and of the unclean things of her immorality,

Rather than being filled, she is trying to cloth herself in the valuable items. Could we compare that to the many, many different ideologies out there that are trying to put on from the outside some kind of importance or false 'value'?

Also recall that she is the 'mother'

Revelation 17:5 NAS

and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, "BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

That's why I'm seeing her as a real 'mixed bag' as it were of all the false belief systems mankind holds and puts trust in. She is the mother of all these belief systems even beyond just religion.

Perhaps this could even be connected to how we trust in the global societies to feed and care for us all.....like a 'mother' caring for mankind? Something to really think about deeply I feel, leave no stone unturned.

Digging

Or perhaps she is the mother church with "protesting" daughters.

 

[Sinthesis]

Or perhaps she is the mother church with "protesting" daughters.

In that case her 'protesting' daughters would be harlots.

 

[John 8:32]

In that case her 'protesting' daughters would be harlots.

Yes they would, wouldn't they.

 

[Sinthesis]

So one of the consequences of misidentifying Babylon is slandering young ladies, so to speak.

 

[John 8:32]

So one of the consequences of misidentifying Babylon is slandering young ladies, so to speak.

Or not recognizing who the whore and the harlots are.

 

[reba]

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[follower]

Then they will get behind the pulpit and sell the deception to most of what is called the "church".

So it has been for thousands of years.

 

[hawkman]

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