Covid Vaccine, a Gospel imperative

[Isilwen]

That's it, blame DeSantis, blame the schools, blame everyone except the parents.
It's more important to keep up their all-american standard of living than to stay home and raise their kids.

Now you're just going off the rails!

You do realize that it takes two people in order to have a home and pay the bills? This is no longer the 50's. The days of June Cleaver are over.

The blame does rest on Desantis's shoulders and I have already said why, but you just keep sticking your head in the sand and ignore the obvious truth as it stares you in the face,

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Now you're just going off the rails!

You do realize that it takes two people in order to have a home and pay the bills? This is no longer the 50's. The days of June Cleaver are over.

The blame does rest on Desantis's shoulders and I have already said why, but you just keep sticking your head in the sand and ignore the obvious truth as it stares you in the face,

I've known many stay at home mothers through the years and they all got by.
I know one family that decided to work and use daycare and they lived very rich compared to the others.
People just have to decide what their priorities are.

 

[Isilwen]

Oh, and to give you an example. I have a friend who is married. They have a three-bedroom apartment because they have three kids. In order to make ends meet, both spouses have to work. Their rent started out fours years ago at $993, this February it will be $1800. That's not counting bills, food, gas for their cars, car insurance, etc...

Tell me, how one person can stay home and raise the kids if they are barely making it now?

BTW, this apartment is in Polk County.

 

[Isilwen]

I've known many stay at home mothers through the years and they all got by.
I know one family that decided to work and use daycare and they lived very rich compared to the others.
People just have to decide what their priorities are.

Not all can afford daycare. I know the friend I mentioned above cannot. Daycare would depending on the age of the child be about $6600 a year to over $8300 a year. Many cannot afford that!

 

[Isilwen]

We're getting way off-topic again.

I posted the stats, do with them what you will.

 

[jasonc]

Good, I'm glad that you do, but too many will not do it. Masks only work when all are wearing them.

so why not
simply force osha to change from on kn95 and force shaving .you cant seal a mask with a beard .I know mine didn't and many others said the same
the army won't allow beards over that reason over masks to stop cbrn attacks.

no one physically inspects masks wearing at my job or non medical jobs ,my boss balked at giving me replacements over dirty ear bands

they were black ,never mind i magically couldn't get covid in a sealed room with the same group,despite air shared with others from other groups . city hall has only so many separate a.c. units and none are isolated from each other .

are these clothe masks that you can see the mouth are protection?would your job allow that ,a bandana ?

 

[jasonc]

Do Masks Work?

“Seriously people—STOP BUYING MASKS!” So tweeted then–surgeon general Jerome Adams on February 29, 2020, adding, “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus.” Two days later, Adams said, “Folks who don’t know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces...

www.city-journal.org

from my brother who is pro vaccine

 

[Isilwen]

are these clothe masks that you can see the mouth are protection?would your job allow that ,a bandana ?

We wear triple-layered cloth masks for non-Covid calls and then we wear an N-95with a surgical mask and face shield or safety goggles along with a gown, hair net, booties, and gloves for Covid calls.

 

[Isilwen]

Do Masks Work?

“Seriously people—STOP BUYING MASKS!” So tweeted then–surgeon general Jerome Adams on February 29, 2020, adding, “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus.” Two days later, Adams said, “Folks who don’t know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces...

www.city-journal.org

from my brother who is pro vaccine

In rebuttal.

Do face masks work? Here are 49 scientific studies that explain why they do

Reasons for mask hesitancy and doubt include conflicting data from health officials, political biases and cultural unfamiliarity (studies showed mask wearing was lower in countries where face maski…

www.kxan.com

 

[jasonc]

In rebuttal.

Do face masks work? Here are 49 scientific studies that explain why they do

Reasons for mask hesitancy and doubt include conflicting data from health officials, political biases and cultural unfamiliarity (studies showed mask wearing was lower in countries where face maski…

www.kxan.com

that is not rct

 

[Isilwen]

that is not rct

RCT?

 

[jasonc]

We wear triple-layered cloth masks for non-Covid calls and then we wear an N-95with a surgical mask and face shield or safety goggles along with a gown, hair net, booties, and gloves for Covid calls.

you do.mos5 doctors don't


I can,post photos if I decide to take them of way less .

if you read that link ,your idea of anything,less then your level and you Toss ppe out .

most don't .try working on cars with masks hanging on turn signals or laying over the seats

 

[jasonc]

RCT?

random control testing
meandijg
control group
the expiremental group and in the control a placebo given and drug ,control has nothing given

masks weren't tested like that and then were in that link .it lists that .

st.lucie county passed a mask mandate ,that was a joke ,I saw panty hose ,that's real protection there ,people holding their mask on by hand ,easily visible mouths and knose in some masks .

 

[Isilwen]

you do.mos5 doctors don't


I can,post photos if I decide to take them of way less .

if you read that link ,your idea of anything,less then your level and you Toss ppe out .

most don't .try working on cars with masks hanging on turn signals or laying over the seats

That's part of the problem. People not wearing a mask when they're supposed to. That's not the fault of the mask, but the one who is supposed to be wearing it. I have watched mechanics work on cars and wear a mask with no issues.

All the doctors I come into contact with wear a mask. Some wear a respirator. My surgeon wears one of those.

As I said, masks work, as long as everyone wears one.

 

[Isilwen]

random control testing
meandijg
control group
the expiremental group and in the control a placebo given and drug ,control has nothing given

masks weren't tested like that and then were in that link .it lists that .

st.lucie county passed a mask mandate ,that was a joke ,I saw panty hose ,that's real protection there ,people holding their mask on by hand ,easily visible mouths and knose in some masks .

So then there needs to be enforcement, in my state, Desantis neutered the ability of enforcement of masks.

As for the RCT, did you go through all 49 studies in that article?

 

[jasonc]

just to point out early in the article

 

[jasonc]

That's part of the problem. People not wearing a mask when they're supposed to. That's not the fault of the mask, but the one who is supposed to be wearing it. I have watched mechanics work on cars and wear a mask with no issues.

All the doctors I come into contact with wear a mask. Some wear a respirator. My surgeon wears one of those.

As I said, masks work, as long as everyone wears one.

see article and if engine oil can enter into my mask ,a virus easily can

you blindly follow that a do rag and Chinese otc mask is a good as your kn95 ?

I have worn those during grinding metal .no way would a Chinese mask protect me from metal

 

[jasonc]

So then there needs to be enforcement, in my state, Desantis neutered the ability of enforcement of masks.

As for the RCT, did you go through all 49 studies in that article?

yup .I posted the often cited part by the cdc as observational

you have way too much fauth in cops ,despite dui laws every 5 driver on the highway is drunk ,only holidays at certain times its one of two (50 percent)

 

[Isilwen]

yup .I posted the often cited part by the cdc as observational

you have way too much fauth in cops ,despite dui laws every 5 driver on the highway is drunk ,only holidays at certain times its one of two (50 percent)

Of course, I do! As an EMT I work side-by-side with them at times and have to trust them to do their job.

 

[jasonc]

Of course, I do! As an EMT I work side-by-side with them at times and have to trust them to do their job.

so we should station cops in every house and business

im sure you know that if a judge speeds ,gets drunk and is pulled over he gets an,escort home and and his son


now then add to the fact in a liberal mask mandated state

COVID-19 transmission on Martha's Vineyard now 'high,' CDC says; Nantucket implements mask mandate

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention designated Nantucket County as an area with "high" community transmission for COVID-19.

www.boston.com

where is the arrests and tickets ?

for all those who attendeed

All About Barack Obama’s Lavish, Celeb-Filled Birthday Party on Martha’s Vineyard

There were s’mores cocktails, vegan cakes and plenty of dancing.

observer.com

videos suggest no one
followed that .and cops were directing traffic and also traffic problems followed

so yes lets harrass the little guy but not the elites