[_ Old Earth _] Creations debating tactics

[pasta911]

Re-worded.

SOME Creationist uses a number of deceptive and dishonest rhetorical tactics in there efforts to TRY TO "win" Intelligent Desighn debates. Among other things, Creationist will make up answers off the top of there head; they will take another person's argument, make a caricature of it, and attack the other person on the basis of there misrepresentation; They will use insults to minimize those who disagree with Them; they will employ insults and bluster to dodge troublesome questions; they will make unreasonable demands in exchange for answering a question or questions that they do not want to answer; they will rewrite there responses in debates after the other person has already responded; they will claim to have answered a question or to have addressed an issue when in fact they has not; and so on and so forth. Not all of these actions are blatantly dishonest-but many of them are and all of them, taken together, reveal a basic dishonesty in there approach to discussion and debate.
Anyway, the fact that some Creationist engages in fibbery and deception is undeniable. Therefore, people who try to have honest, open and fair discussions with some Creationist should be forewarned and should take what they write with a very large grain of salt.

 

[peace4all]

also, please rememebr the msot common tactic.

receiving false information from unreliable sources, Such as a creationism website, and then using it as a basis of what true evolutionists believe.

Also

Circular reasoning is the best. Most arguments start
"show me how humans came from monkeys"
"we never claimed that"
"see, then evolution is wrong"
"no, that is not the definition"
"but, do humans come from monkeys?"
"your not listening"
"hah see, your wrong!"

 

[pfilmtech]

You forogt quoting disproved science from like 1920

 

[Heidi]

Re-worded.

SOME Creationist uses a number of deceptive and dishonest rhetorical tactics in there efforts to TRY TO "win" Intelligent Desighn debates. Among other things, Creationist will make up answers off the top of there head; they will take another person's argument, make a caricature of it, and attack the other person on the basis of there misrepresentation; They will use insults to minimize those who disagree with Them; they will employ insults and bluster to dodge troublesome questions; they will make unreasonable demands in exchange for answering a question or questions that they do not want to answer; they will rewrite there responses in debates after the other person has already responded; they will claim to have answered a question or to have addressed an issue when in fact they has not; and so on and so forth. Not all of these actions are blatantly dishonest-but many of them are and all of them, taken together, reveal a basic dishonesty in there approach to discussion and debate.
Anyway, the fact that some Creationist engages in fibbery and deception is undeniable. Therefore, people who try to have honest, open and fair discussions with some Creationist should be forewarned and should take what they write with a very large grain of salt.

Sorry, but our responses come from facts, not our imaginations. It is simply a fact that humans breed humans, apes breed apes, and humans rule over the animals. It is also not a fact that the genes of animals turn into the genes of humans on their own. That comes strictly from the imaginations of evolutionists and contradicts the fact that one species cannot turn into another without being able to breed with that species. But since you cannot see those facts, then you do not have the capacity to be honest and an intelligent conversation is not possible with you or anyone else who cannot see that reality. I therefore have no further wish to converse with people who are that dishonest. It serves no purpose.

 

[Frost Giant]

No, you still have no idea what you are talking about or else you would realize that genes are not static.

 

[armed2010]

Re-worded.

SOME Creationist uses a number of deceptive and dishonest rhetorical tactics in there efforts to TRY TO "win" Intelligent Desighn debates. Among other things, Creationist will make up answers off the top of there head; they will take another person's argument, make a caricature of it, and attack the other person on the basis of there misrepresentation; They will use insults to minimize those who disagree with Them; they will employ insults and bluster to dodge troublesome questions; they will make unreasonable demands in exchange for answering a question or questions that they do not want to answer; they will rewrite there responses in debates after the other person has already responded; they will claim to have answered a question or to have addressed an issue when in fact they has not; and so on and so forth. Not all of these actions are blatantly dishonest-but many of them are and all of them, taken together, reveal a basic dishonesty in there approach to discussion and debate.
Anyway, the fact that some Creationist engages in fibbery and deception is undeniable. Therefore, people who try to have honest, open and fair discussions with some Creationist should be forewarned and should take what they write with a very large grain of salt.

Sorry, but our responses come from facts, not our imaginations. It is simply a fact that humans breed humans, apes breed apes, and humans rule over the animals. It is also not a fact that the genes of animals turn into the genes of humans on their own. That comes strictly from the imaginations of evolutionists and contradicts the fact that one species cannot turn into another without being able to breed with that species. But since you cannot see those facts, then you do not have the capacity to be honest and an intelligent conversation is not possible with you or anyone else who cannot see that reality. I therefore have no further wish to converse with people who are that dishonest. It serves no purpose.

Once again, we see Caricos blatant intellectual dishonesty. If you had been listening to ANYTHING we've said, you would know that different species cannot breed or produce viable offspring.

You are one to talk about intelligent conversations Carico. Over the years that I have seen you discuss things at the various Christianforums, you have not shown on ounce of intelligence in your posts. You completely distort what people tell you, purposely ignore peoples attempts to correct your false statements, and continue to put up strawmen of evolution that YOU KNOW are strawmen, because you have been called out on them numerous times. I can't conceive how you're able to function in the world with the comprehension problems that you exhibit on here. It is disgusting to hear you claim that others are dishonest when you epitomize dishonesty. For once, learn what Evolution is, get rid of the strawmen that you know and have been told are false depictions of evolution, and maybe you will have an argument.

 

[MrVersatile48]

FUN DAY OUT THIS 1ST MILD WEEKEND OF 2006!!

If Saturday..
is as nice as today..
CU..
@ Chester Zoo? :-D

Evo-loopies will NEVER find the MILLIONS of 'missing links' - @ EVERY so-called step of the so-called evolutionary (loopy!) ladder

Why?

They don't exist 8-)

Darwin drivel is brainwashing indoctrination, as I said on BBC Radio Merseyside on Tues, @ 12.10/12.20 :angel:

So...

Don't be brainwashed!!! :roll:

CU @ Chester Zoo picnic area Sat lunchtime :D

I'll have my praise tapes playing under a picnic table :-D

All the above invite has echoed round Liverpool's best acoustic spots today

Y not tape it - talk slow & emphasise the consonants to make the words carry clearer further, OK? - & play it in your local precincts & beauty spots this lovely day!!

Right back with link to my gum-chewing Elvis pic... :o