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Creflo Dollar needs money for a ministry plane

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Kathi

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Unfortunately he will probably get it.


http://www.christianpost.com/news/t...each-so-he-can-buy-65m-ministry-plane-135582/

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Creflo Dollar is filthy rich. He is worth millions. He wears suits that worth more than my car. But he would rather con some poor gullible souls into believing that if they would just "seed" their rent money, or money they need for utilities or prescriptions into his bloated coffers that God will send them a healing or a check in the mail.
I wish that for once, the people watching and drinking in his teachings would stop and ask why their path to health and wealth always seems to start by making Creflo Dollar rich first.
If Creflo Dollar needs money for a plane, why doesn't he just plant seeds into others lives like he teaches? Why ask everyone for money? Why not plant financial seeds and sit back and wait for God to send him that plane??? Funny how when they need money, they don't seem to follow their own teachings.
The whole prosperity doctrine is a huge Ponzi scheme.
 
Matthew 15
13 But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted.
14 Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.”
 
Humm... let me see...... You believe, The man of God whom devotes his life to the work of the LORD to Save Your Soul should purchase his ticket from a secular airlines, and ride in the back of THEIR plane, whom more than likely are Unbelieving sinners who do not even acknowledge God's existence, let alone spend any time on saving souls.
And you say an ambassador(minister) for Christ (Son of Almighty Creator of the Universe),whom has grown up in the Word in devotion and integrity, should be waiting in long lines to take the gospel into all the world, behind those going on trips for their own agendas? Unbelievable!
I am interested in why you think it evil for a man of God to have first place among the heathen? Think of what you are saying and see, just who's side are you on here. The devils children, have God's children's goods that He gave to them. Those who reject Christ have stolen your stuff and you're trying to make sure God's children don't have any.
The earth is the LORD'S and the fullness thereof. The man of God does not chase money, they seek after the Word of God, and God blesses them just as He did Abraham. Aren't we suppose to be the blessed seed of Abraham? God made Abraham Rich.
Matt 6:32(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
KJV
Do you know who received all the offerings brought to God's temple in the OT? The Priests who work for God to advance His kingdom, that is who. The people of God were blessed in all they do. God does not need your money for all the gold is His, including any that you may have in your possession. For it came out of His earth! Did you give back a portion of what He has given you by allowing you to work on His earth, using His property? I wonder how fast you would charge someone who did that to you? How much would you bless someone who took from you and gave nothing back as if it is theirs? Try stealing something from the store and see how far out the door you get.
I realize that we don't have much choice, but when we purchase our needs from unbelievers, just who do you think gets all that money to lord over you? The ungodly kingdom that is who.
They are the giants who try to make themselves larger than God and are bullies, Tyrants with power due to their ILL GOTTEN gains who walk along on God's green earth as if they are god.
Do you know what the Hebrew children did before they left Egypt? God gave them favor to ask for jewelry, fine clothes for their children.
Ps 112:1 Praise ye the LORD. Blessed is the man that feareth the LORD, that delighteth greatly in his commandments.
2 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed.
3 Wealth and riches shall be in his house: and his righteousness endureth for ever.
KJV

Do you know that you can tell one who trusts in his money by just $1 ? They will cling to that one dollar as their only hope, instead of leaning on God to provide a way were their seems to be no way.
Jesus watches over the treasury to see the hearts of men, and he boasted about a poor widow giving her last mite to show she was putting her trust in God, not her last dime.
3 John 1:1 The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.
2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
KJV
Phil 4:14 Notwithstanding ye have well done, that ye did communicate with my affliction.
15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.
16 For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.
17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
18 But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God.
KJV
When a Pastor feeds the sheep, isn't the worker worthy of his wages? Would you work from free? When you give BACK to God, you show Him just who gave you that ability in a thanksgiving return so that there will be food in His house, natural and spiritual food.
When we begrudge giving to the house of God, we show just how little we think of His Word/Son and the man of God who brings it and our salvation.

1 Sam 2:6 The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.
7 The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.
8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them.
9 He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail.
KJV
Prov 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.
KJV
I used to think like you, but now I see! When we allow God's Word to indwell us and be first place in all we do, we become rich inwardly, and God's brings the outwardly richness for reward, for our obedience to His Voice led by His Spirit.
 
4afaithfulone said:
Humm... let me see...... You believe, The man of God whom devotes his life to the work of the LORD to Save Your Soul should purchase his ticket from a secular airlines, and ride in the back of THEIR plane, whom more than likely are Unbelieving sinners who do not even acknowledge God's existence, let alone spend any time on saving souls.
And you say an ambassador(minister) for Christ (Son of Almighty Creator of the Universe),whom has grown up in the Word in devotion and integrity, should be waiting in long lines to take the gospel into all the world, behind those going on trips for their own agendas? Unbelievable!
I am interested in why you think it evil for a man of God to have first place among the heathen? Think of what you are saying and see, just who's side are you on here. The devils children, have God's children's goods that He gave to them. Those who reject Christ have stolen your stuff and you're trying to make sure God's children don't have any.
The earth is the LORD'S and the fullness thereof. The man of God does not chase money, they seek after the Word of God, and God blesses them just as He did Abraham. Aren't we suppose to be the blessed seed of Abraham? God made Abraham Rich.
Matt 6:32(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
KJV
Do you know who received all the offerings brought to God's temple in the OT? The Priests who work for God to advance His kingdom, that is who. The people of God were blessed in all they do. God does not need your money for all the gold is His, including any that you may have in your possession. For it came out of His earth! Did you give back a portion of what He has given you by allowing you to work on His earth, using His property? I wonder how fast you would charge someone who did that to you? How much would you bless someone who took from you and gave nothing back as if it is theirs? Try stealing something from the store and see how far out the door you get.
I realize that we don't have much choice, but when we purchase our needs from unbelievers, just who do you think gets all that money to lord over you? The ungodly kingdom that is who.
They are the giants who try to make themselves larger than God and are bullies, Tyrants with power due to their ILL GOTTEN gains who walk along on God's green earth as if they are god.
Do you know what the Hebrew children did before they left Egypt? God gave them favor to ask for jewelry, fine clothes for their children.
Ps 112:1 Praise ye the LORD. Blessed is the man that feareth the LORD, that delighteth greatly in his commandments.
2 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed.
3 Wealth and riches shall be in his house: and his righteousness endureth for ever.
KJV

Do you know that you can tell one who trusts in his money by just $1 ? They will cling to that one dollar as their only hope, instead of leaning on God to provide a way were their seems to be no way.
Jesus watches over the treasury to see the hearts of men, and he boasted about a poor widow giving her last mite to show she was putting her trust in God, not her last dime.
3 John 1:1 The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.
2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
KJV
Phil 4:14 Notwithstanding ye have well done, that ye did communicate with my affliction.
15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.
16 For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.
17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
18 But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God.
KJV
When a Pastor feeds the sheep, isn't the worker worthy of his wages? Would you work from free? When you give BACK to God, you show Him just who gave you that ability in a thanksgiving return so that there will be food in His house, natural and spiritual food.
When we begrudge giving to the house of God, we show just how little we think of His Word/Son and the man of God who brings it and our salvation.

1 Sam 2:6 The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.
7 The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.
8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them.
9 He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail.
KJV
Prov 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.
KJV
I used to think like you, but now I see! When we allow God's Word to indwell us and be first place in all we do, we become rich inwardly, and God's brings the outwardly richness for reward, for our obedience to His Voice led by His Spirit.
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Share with me what you are saying.Do you think Creflo Dollar should get his aircraft?
 
kiwidan said:
They can, all they need to do is read the gospel, but they would rather listen to mans teaching and not the real Christ, so they get what they deserve. Just another false Christ. There is plenty of them around.
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This is true, One who seeks God to feed them from His table in the upper room is better off than trusting in man to be just telling them what their contract says. Read it for yourself and seek the Spirit to guide you into all truth. Remember what happened to Eve when she receive her Word second hand, she was deceived!
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
KJV
 
a gulf stream jet, I see those a lot here. I watched one land a few months ago. they are about the size of a 737 or smaller. one man needs that? so the disciples should have chariots to preach and private roman yachts? while it can be argued to save money if they traveled a lot but does he? 65 million plus pilot and crew to fly and maintain and yearly costs of fuel and parts. that would have to be a lot of flying.
 
Kathi said:
Share with me what you are saying.Do you think Creflo Dollar should get his aircraft?
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I do not agree with all the technology that we have, but I understand what it is all for in these end times. Do you think that a man of God should be given top priority when he is taking the gospel into all the world and freely feed the sheep for their soul?
The internet, and transportation to take the man of God to the deep places that most people will not go for they are too busy with their own stuff. It is costly, but some one is willing to go, Why shouldn’t he?
 
4afaithfulone said:
This is true, One who seeks God to feed them from His table in the upper room is better off than trusting in man to be just telling them what their contract says. Read it for yourself and seek the Spirit to guide you into all truth. Remember what happened to Eve when she receive her Word second hand, she was deceived!
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
KJV
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Can you just give me a clear answer.Do you think people should give to Creflo Dollar's Ministry so he can get his aircraft? Yes or No.
 
4afaithfulone said:
This is true, One who seeks God to feed them from His table in the upper room is better off than trusting in man to be just telling them what their contract says. Read it for yourself and seek the Spirit to guide you into all truth. Remember what happened to Eve when she receive her Word second hand, she was deceived!
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
KJV
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I don't have any problem with a ministry owning a jet that is used by the ministry. However, I do have a problem with the way most of them teach tithing from the Law incorrectly. They lie about the tithe laws in several ways.
They totally ignore new testament giving principles. If they had the faith that they expect their supporters to have they wouldn't need to do this.
 
Kathi said:
Creflo Dollar is filthy rich. He is worth millions. He wears suits that worth more than my car. But he would rather con some poor gullible souls into believing that if they would just "seed" their rent money, or money they need for utilities or prescriptions into his bloated coffers that God will send them a healing or a check in the mail.
I wish that for once, the people watching and drinking in his teachings would stop and ask why their path to health and wealth always seems to start by making Creflo Dollar rich first.
If Creflo Dollar needs money for a plane, why doesn't he just plant seeds into others lives like he teaches? Why ask everyone for money? Why not plant financial seeds and sit back and wait for God to send him that plane??? Funny how when they need money, they don't seem to follow their own teachings.
The whole prosperity doctrine is a huge Ponzi scheme.
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Good post. :thumbsup

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If his motivation is truly about spreading the gospel as he claims, why not raise that $65 million to fund indigenous missionaries in those countries who are already there so that he doesn't have wear out a plane travelling around the world and he could spend more time ministering to his own people???
 
Some facts:

Creflo's ministery brings in about 70 million a year total cash.
Creflo is worth 27 million, total assents.
Over 15% of what comes in goes out to feed people, shelters, churches.
Creflo only keeps a percent of all that comes in as salary.
Creflo has been fully audited for any Wrongful activity and has passed with no issues.

Sowing into a new jet to get the Word preached is a good thing.

Mayweather's upcomming fight will pay him a promised 32 million dollars. One fight will make the man worth more than Creflo who has spent years building up the Word for God.

Nothing wrong with that, but priorities in this thread are way off.
 
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