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Death

Kathi said:
A good Christian book to read regarding death "One Minute After You Die" by Erwin L.Lutzer.The books really makes you think,
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I've not read it, I don't think; there was a similar work with a slightly different title a few years ago.

Blessings.
 
The unknown and the possibility of being wrong is what scares me. Okay so, if I'm wrong about Christianity, that's of no consequence. I simply quit existing. It's if I'm wrong about salvation that's really scary.
 
questdriven said:
The unknown and the possibility of being wrong is what scares me. Okay so, if I'm wrong about Christianity, that's of no consequence. I simply quit existing. It's if I'm wrong about salvation that's really scary.
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That is doubt.You do know the story about doubting Thomas in the Bible?Satan loves doubt.He is the prince of lies.
 
Kathi said:
You hear of people saying how peaceful grandma or grandpa were when they died.Has their ever been an experience that was the opposite?
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I've heard a theory that believers die a peaceful death (having heard stories of dying people seeing angels just before they die), and that unbelievers tend to not die peacefully. No clue just how true that is.
 
questdriven said:
I've heard a theory that believers die a peaceful death (having heard stories of dying people seeing angels just before they die), and that unbelievers tend to not die peacefully. No clue just how true that is.
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Actually I have read a couple of true stories on this.How some die with a smile on their face peacefully.I read a couple of stories about people who were screaming and saying "Those horrible things are coming to get me take them away". They are only stories and maybe even not true although they were supposed to be true.
 
My dad said he saw an angel once, that was coming to take him away. But he told the angel he wasn't ready to go yet and it left. That was years ago.
My dad told me he thought it was probably a hallucination. He had been on medical drugs at the time and experienced a lot of those.
 
Kathi said:
You hear of people saying how peaceful grandma or grandpa were when they died.Has their ever been an experience that was the opposite?
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As the old joke goes "I hope I die suddenly and peacefully like grandpa did, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car."
 
questdriven said:
My dad said he saw an angel once, that was coming to take him away. But he told the angel he wasn't ready to go yet and it left. That was years ago.
My dad told me he thought it was probably a hallucination. He had been on medical drugs at the time and experienced a lot of those.
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Yes,that would make sense.A person does not have a choice if it is God's timing.Seeing angels in hallucinations is pretty common.
 
questdriven said:
The unknown and the possibility of being wrong is what scares me. Okay so, if I'm wrong about Christianity, that's of no consequence. I simply quit existing. It's if I'm wrong about salvation that's really scary.
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We can't let fear hinder our walk. Fear and doubt are weapons that Satan uses against us. The Word tells to "Resist the devil and he will flee from you".

There is a simplicity to the Gospel that some find hard to believe.


Matthew 22
34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together.
35 Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying,
36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”

37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”


Romans 13
8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.
9 For the commandments,
“You shall not commit adultery,”
“You shall not murder,”
“You shall not steal,”
“You shall not bear false witness,”
“You shall not covet,”
and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.


Keep your eyes on the Lord and follow these 2 commandments and the devil has no recourse but to leave you alone.

Like it states, resist the devil.........

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questdriven said:
The unknown and the possibility of being wrong is what scares me. Okay so, if I'm wrong about Christianity, that's of no consequence. I simply quit existing. It's if I'm wrong about salvation that's really scary.
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It all hangs on what Scripture promises to the believer, doesn't it? rather than on how we argue with people.

Blessings.
 
Claudya said:
It's a bit more complex. As christians, in death we believe we find the true reality, but since people don't really return to tell us what happened it is indeed an unknown that we fear.
However, there is much more to fear about death than what happens afterwards.
The process of dying is probably not the most pleasant experience, even though modern medicine can help with the physical suffering, it's often a longer process (illness or old age) of seeing one's body fail and I would bet that's not fun.
Also, when we know and accept that we die we also realise we leave behind all the things and people in this world, and in the end life itself, that we love. Not the unknown is the problem, but the known things that we have to let go of.
Imagine you are terminally ill, and it's spring outside, the birds are singing, all the plants are growing fresh green leaves, people are going outside and enjoying life it looks like the summer's gonna be awesome - but you will no longer be there to see it. The eternal circle of life goes on, just that you are no longer part of it.
Many people struggle with the things unfinished or unsaid, their failures that they can't undo any more, the people they disappointed, the unfulfilled dreams. People facing their own death in foreseeable future often feel great emotional pain about the end of their earthly existience. Or they wonder why, for example why did they get cancer despite a health conscious life, while their smoking and drinking cousin is doing fine? Facing one's death is a big emotional challenge in many regards.
The afterlife isn't really what I fear. Either we are right and there's an ultimately loving God waiting for us on the other side and all we do when we die is return home. Or we are wrong and there is no spiritual reality, in that case all we do when we die is fall asleep. I like falling asleep, so that's not something I'd fear.
What I fear is the finiteness of my existence, and that I will get to the point when I realise that my unfulfilled dreams will remain unfulfilled and I have to let go of all the things that I still wanted to do. Regrets and bitterness before my death, that's what I fear, and I guess that (plus physical pain and discomfort) is what many people actually fear about death.
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I think much of it has to do with not being here tomorrow. You're leaving and not ever coming back.

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In the 70's i read a book called Voices From The Edge Of Eternity no longer in print but i came across it on a Blog a few years ago..this one is called Testimony..

This is the real deal guys..

Proverbs 14:32, Numbers 23:10 The wicked is driven away in his wickedness: but the righteous hath hope in his death....Let me die the death of the righteous, and let my last end be like his!

The testimonies of both saved and unsaved appear in this section, to inform you of the last words and thoughts of people who have went in either direction. There are not many better things to help the Christian prepare for the hereafter and to keep their eyes fixed on eternal glory than to be ever pondering the day of separation of body from soul and spirit.

Things that can offer no comfort on the deathbed, are simply worthless. With that in mind, it is good for the Christian to consider the day of his departure from this world on a regular basis. The "Dying Testimonies of Saved and Unsaved" has proven to be a very uplifting book for the Christian in this matter, and I hope it will be much to your encouragement.

If you do not presently have full assurance of salvation this book may not be the best reading for you to start with. People without salvation may find it quite disturbing..

http://theinvisiblechurch.ca/testimony/testimony.html

tob
 
turnorburn said:
In the 70's i read a book called Voices From The Edge Of Eternity no longer in print but i came across it on a Blog a few years ago..this one is called Testimony..

This is the real deal guys..

Proverbs 14:32, Numbers 23:10 The wicked is driven away in his wickedness: but the righteous hath hope in his death....Let me die the death of the righteous, and let my last end be like his!

The testimonies of both saved and unsaved appear in this section, to inform you of the last words and thoughts of people who have went in either direction. There are not many better things to help the Christian prepare for the hereafter and to keep their eyes fixed on eternal glory than to be ever pondering the day of separation of body from soul and spirit.

Things that can offer no comfort on the deathbed, are simply worthless. With that in mind, it is good for the Christian to consider the day of his departure from this world on a regular basis. The "Dying Testimonies of Saved and Unsaved" has proven to be a very uplifting book for the Christian in this matter, and I hope it will be much to your encouragement.

If you do not presently have full assurance of salvation this book may not be the best reading for you to start with. People without salvation may find it quite disturbing..

http://theinvisiblechurch.ca/testimony/testimony.html

tob
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That is like the book I spoke of earlier "The Minutes After You Die" the book would be quite disturbing to read for an unbeliever.
 
turnorburn said:
In the 70's i read a book called Voices From The Edge Of Eternity no longer in print but i came across it on a Blog a few years ago..this one is called Testimony..

This is the real deal guys..

Proverbs 14:32, Numbers 23:10 The wicked is driven away in his wickedness: but the righteous hath hope in his death....Let me die the death of the righteous, and let my last end be like his!

The testimonies of both saved and unsaved appear in this section, to inform you of the last words and thoughts of people who have went in either direction. There are not many better things to help the Christian prepare for the hereafter and to keep their eyes fixed on eternal glory than to be ever pondering the day of separation of body from soul and spirit.

Things that can offer no comfort on the deathbed, are simply worthless. With that in mind, it is good for the Christian to consider the day of his departure from this world on a regular basis. The "Dying Testimonies of Saved and Unsaved" has proven to be a very uplifting book for the Christian in this matter, and I hope it will be much to your encouragement.

If you do not presently have full assurance of salvation this book may not be the best reading for you to start with. People without salvation may find it quite disturbing..

http://theinvisiblechurch.ca/testimony/testimony.html

tob
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Hey turnorburn! Funny you mentioned this- I just read the verse in Numbers 23:10 today!!! I highlighted it in my Bible. I pray that God will let me die the death of the righteous!
 
Kathi said:
Many have said that those who believe in the Rapture such as I do want that to happen instead of dieing.Can we consider the Rapture a death?The disappearance instantly of the body?When about those who are Raptured that leave unbelieving families behind?Will they be able to claim life insurance on those people because there is no body?
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Oh my gosh, I have never thought of that.! Life insurance, no body.....I suppose you could call and ask. :cool
 
Kathi said:
Many have said that those who believe in the Rapture such as I do want that to happen instead of dieing.Can we consider the Rapture a death?The disappearance instantly of the body?When about those who are Raptured that leave unbelieving families behind?Will they be able to claim life insurance on those people because there is no body?
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Deborah13 said:
Oh my gosh, I have never thought of that.! Life insurance, no body.....I suppose you could call and ask. :cool
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Here's something to ponder.

What if the bodies are left behind? What if it's only the soul or spirit that's taken? The bible states that as we have borne the image of the man of dust (Adam) we shall also bear the image of the Heavenly Man. (Christ) What if in that twinkling of an eye.....


1 Corinthians 15
51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—
52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”


1 John 3
Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.



Something to think about.

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