i realize that you are angry that ive only replied once to your hate mail PMs you've sent to me.
Oh! Pointing out that Jesus commanded us to do some things is "Hate mail" to you. That tells me a lot.
Also, When Jesus walked the earth, there was no wafer that is entitled a "Eucharist", as this is a Catholic invention, similar to the "Pope", which is also a Catholic invention,..(in case you didnt know).
OK. So, according to you, we can totally ignore what Jesus said at John 6:48-58, Mat 26:26-28; Mark 14:22-24; and Luke 22:19-20. You have that special anointing that equips you to correct Jesus' words. Got it.
And the Eucharist was what they called it in the 1st century, when the entire church practiced it, over 1000 years before there was the organization you call a Catholic church. (Just to let you know)
Wafer? OK, that's a Roman thing instead of regular bread.
the "Pope", which is also a Catholic invention,..(in case you didn't know).
Ah! There you go getting your nickers all in a bunch about that pope person again. You certainly give him a lot of control of your life.
whatever. Your hatred for your brothers in the RCC is duly noted.
And, when Jesus was telling you to take him, both wine and bread, or you have no life in you, He is telling you to take Him by Faith as only Faith, in the finished work on the cross, is able to satisfy God's requirements for us to be born again.
Funny. Not one of His disciples understood it that way.
That the bread and wine were the body and blood of Christ was what the Church believed from the 1st century, long before anyone was called the Pope.
Ignatius of Antioch (30-107 A. D. A disciple of the apostle John and Bishop of Antioch) in his Epistle to the Smyrnaens, Ch. VII: “Let Us Stand Aloof from Such Heretics” states; “They (the heretics) abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins,..”
He was taught by the John, the beloved disciple of Christ and, in this statement, he affirms the teaching of the apostles and Christ that the bread is Christ’s body.
But you are taught by the traditions of protesting and reforming (without Biblical authority) men.
How swell.
Here's some more from the early church long before there was a "Catholic Church" and a "pope" for you to blame for everything you don't like
Justin Martyr, the church’s first apologist, wrote in the first half of the 2nd century in his “The First Apology of Justin”, in Chapter LXVI.—Of the Eucharist. In it he reports what he was taught as a new Christian by the church. That would mean that the teaching he received was already established in the church. It is not some later innovation by the Roman church but was a part of the teaching of the apostles who taught what they learned from Jesus. It is God’s inspired teaching to the church by His Son, through the apostles to the church.
And here's what he said:
“And this food is called among us Eujcaristiva [the Eucharist], of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, and unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ has enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh. For the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels, have thus delivered unto us what was enjoined upon them; that Jesus took bread, and when He had given thanks, said, “This do ye in remembrance of Me, this is My body; ”and that, after the same manner, having taken the cup and given thanks, He said, “This is My blood; ”and gave it to them alone.”
In fact, not one person in any church anywhere in the world thought that was what Jesus was talking about for at least 1500 years. They all thought that Jesus meant exactly what he said.
And what He said was:
John 6:51 (RSV)
I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.
John 6:53-59 (RSV) T
ruly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever.
So, to teach that a cracker and a cup of grape juice
Cracker?? Grape juice??? What in the world are you talking about?
Oh, that's right. You have no idea.
can be transformed into the literal blood and body of Christ,
What?? "Literal"?? You still have no idea. Where do you get this nonsense? Nobody believes that the bread and wine changes into actual meat and blood.
based on a Catholic Priesthood devised bit of the miraculous, (Transubstantiation),
It's based on the words of Jesus (the guy you like to ignore when His words don't fit your religion).
has of course nothing to do with how a person hears the Gospel, believes it, and is saved.
Of course it doesn't. That's a totally different topic.
OK! So, you have firmly established, beyond any shadow of a doubt, by your own words, that you refuse to pay any attention to anything Jesus said if it doesn't fit the traditions of men that you prefer to believe over Jesus, or if you don't like what Jesus said, or what Jesus said sounds too Catholic to you.
Go it.
enjoy!
