Bible Study did Enoch die ?

[Bob10]

HEB 11:13 These all died in faith…
Not all the seed of Abraham, but all the believers in the preceding verses, excepting Enoch

The above commentary is misleading because of the human addition of "excepting Enoch" ------ the inspired Bible left those two words OUT.

If humans need to add those two words inorder to validate their belief in going to heaven, fine.

But let's not pretend that we are actually reading those two words from the Bible ------------ we read those two added words out of our religious pamphlets.

 

[Blazin Bones]

I sighted Gill's comentary because of what he said in the following which I left in the Bold.

 

[Swan]

It is appointed man to die once right Heb.9:27 There is no one other then Enoch and Elijah that have been declared, I'll say un-dead.

These are the two witnesses in Revelation I believe. It's logical and makes perfect sence- since the Bible leaves -only- these two men that are still appointed to death.

Enoch did not die, and I don't care where he went, the Bible does not say, and I do not care to put speculation into belief. I leave it in the un-answered file.



Swan

 

[Swan]

Man I keep getting in these dead threads! :-? :o

 

[Vic C.]

Man I keep getting in these dead threads! :-? :o

Eh, don't fret it...this one is only 19 days old. ;-) :-D

 

[Blazin Bones]

Well this thread may be dead, but as far as God has told us, Enoch never was.

 

[Swan]

Amen!

 

[Blazin Bones]

God said it, so I believe it. Amen. 8-)

 

[Bob10]

It says that Enoch WALKED with God for three hundred years, and not one year more. Why? Because "all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years" (Genesis 5:23). Paul says, in Colossians 1:10, "That ye might walk worthy of the Lord." Enoch walked with God and pleased God. This is what Genesis 5:22,24 means when it says "Enoch walked with God."


1 Corinthians 15:20-23 says that all die and all shall be resurrected, but Messiah must be first in the order. Enoch could not possibly have preceded Him.


http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/enoch.html

 

[Elijah message]

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1 Corinthians 15:20-23 says that all die and all shall be resurrected, but Messiah must be first in the order. Enoch could not possibly have
preceded Him.

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---Elijah here:

Enoch did not die and then raise from the dead, [as Christ did!] He was a type of the ones being translated without dieing, those that are alive when Christ comes a second time!

The Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 verses could straighten one out, IF they had FAITH IN [ALL] THE WORD OF GOD! (Matt. 4:4 & 2 Tim. 3:16)

 

[Bob10]

translated without dieing

what does translated mean?

are there any other biblical definitions?

I think the Greek word (in the NT) is also translated as "carried over" in Acts 7:16 .

I'll check Crosswalk.com to be sure.

 

[vinc]

Hbr 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

The ones God is referring to in verse 13 are the ones listed from vers 7.

I agree with Evanman. Enoch did not die but was taken-up (or caught-up or raptured) in a Supernatural and Miraculous way. I also think Enoch and Elijah would be the Last Two Witnesses who will be sent by God during the Great Tribulation days.

 

[evanman]

Enoch wasn't "Cught Up" he just vanished into thin air.

 

[spiritfilled7]

Amen brutus. The bible says he didnt die but was taken up by God. That is enough reason to believe for me

 

[Elijah message]

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1 Corinthians 15:20-23 says that all die and all shall be resurrected, but Messiah must be first in the order. Enoch could not possibly have
preceded Him.

*********************

---Elijah here:

Enoch did not die and then raise from the dead, [as Christ did!] He was a type of the ones being translated without dieing, those that are alive when Christ comes a second time!

The Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 verses could straighten one out, IF they had FAITH IN [ALL] THE WORD OF GOD! (Matt. 4:4 & 2 Tim. 3:16)

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Elijah here again:

ALL DIE???
If we cannotl let God's Word tell us all die and then straighten us out in what that means by us seeing this ALL of 2 Tim. 3:16 & Matt. 4:4 completeness of the TRUE Word of God, then that is our fault, is it not?

The 1 Cor. 15:20-23 verse says all die. Well how about the ones that do not die when Christ comes that are living and are translated?
Matt. 16:28 has to be understood with verse 27's reward at Christ's 2nd. coming though, huh? Or else once again the completeness of the Everlasting Gospel is not in place!

"There be some standing here, which shall not taste death till they see the Son of man coming in His kingdom." Surely these ones are the wicked! Yet, 2 Thess. 2:8 is also needed to see that this is so.

And the Rightous that are alive when Christ comes are not these ones, but these here: "For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord, that [we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord] shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall decend from heaven [with a shout], with the voice of of the archangel, with the [trump of God: and the [dead in Christ shall rise first:]

Then we which [are alivre and remain shall be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord [in the air]: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Thess. 4:14-16 in part.

One more thing is SURELY SEEN, and that is that the wicked are ALL DEAD until their promised resurection & then to die again the second death. ! See Obad. 16.