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Dishonest Gain

I believe the only way anyone can "force" buyers to pay more than reasonable prices for things is if the sellers pool together to set the price, particularly for items which are necessary for survival. This would be illegal in the US as it would violate anti-trust laws.

jasonc said:
How does one keep food if you don't have power fir months?.I can use the on city water,or county.gotta pay to keep the generators running.some do that to run for food.you cant stock up fir months on gas,nor ice.you would have to live here to see it.some homes use cng generators thar are tied in and are permanent and kick on when the power fails. Those are expensive.a 2kw portable generator need not be raked.surely you would complain if your power bill doubled or tripled during a blizzard and after.thar is what I'm getting at.I paid into power fir the city who charged me for repairs even though I wasn't at that place fir the storms.sane with my home,fpl hit me after 3 years after when my home wasn't even a cleared lot.

Why would it be wrong for the utilities to charge,you have a generator fire it up and solar power ,wells do wonders. ?
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Jason, you were talking about buying a generate after a storm hits and paying high prices because of it. My point is, anyone that lives in an area notorious for power outages and they do not buy a generator before they "need" it, then they were negligent by not being prepared.

Just an hour west of here is the Red River on the border between MN and ND. This river is notorious for flooding. In fact, it is the flood plane of this river that produces some of the best farm soil one can ever imagine having. If you recall, just a few years ago we had back-to-back spring floods due to the heavy winter snows and wet spring rains. Anyone that lives near this river and does not prepare for the inevitable flood is negligent. I've have yet to understand why there is a mad rush to make up sand bags every time that river overflows its banks. Why is there not right now a store of sand bags already prepared? It's not a question of if the river floods again, it's when the river floods again and there's a very good chance that it will happen at least once within the next five years.

How about someone that lives in tornado alley? If they do not have a shelter for the inevitable twister in their future then they are negligent.
 
WIP said:
I believe the only way anyone can "force" buyers to pay more than reasonable prices for things is if the sellers pool together to set the price, particularly for items which are necessary for survival. This would be illegal in the US as it would violate anti-trust laws.


Jason, you were talking about buying a generate after a storm hits and paying high prices because of it. My point is, anyone that lives in an area notorious for power outages and they do not buy a generator before they "need" it, then they were negligent by not being prepared.

Just an hour west of here is the Red River on the border between MN and ND. This river is notorious for flooding. In fact, it is the flood plane of this river that produces some of the best farm soil one can ever imagine having. If you recall, just a few years ago we had back-to-back spring floods due to the heavy winter snows and wet spring rains. Anyone that lives near this river and does not prepare for the inevitable flood is negligent. I've have yet to understand why there is a mad rush to make up sand bags every time that river overflows its banks. Why is there not right now a store of sand bags already prepared? It's not a question of if the river floods again, it's when the river floods again and there's a very good chance that it will happen at least once within the next five years.

How about someone that lives in tornado alley? If they do not have a shelter for the inevitable twister in their future then they are negligent.
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Yet you say nothing about the surcharges for hurricane damage years after the fact.yes each year trees grow and touch powerlines.yet for some time they didn't take out the trees.why charge me for thar when it's part of the problem year round? Do you feel you should pay more for a nuclear power or any plant to be built. They charge but don't build.you dint have to have power.it's not a necessity. See where I can take this? If a storm hit my state and I lived in jax,I drive to exit one in Georgia buy the same generator not on the high prices fir normal price.please explain that.Jacksonville to exit one is less then 30 minutes.I drive that going to the home Depot to get things.
 
jasonc said:
Yet you say nothing about the surcharges for hurricane damage years after the fact.yes each year trees grow and touch powerlines.yet for some time they didn't take out the trees.why charge me for thar when it's part of the problem year round? Do you feel you should pay more for a nuclear power or any plant to be built. They charge but don't build.you dint have to have power.it's not a necessity. See where I can take this? If a storm hit my state and I lived in jax,I drive to exit one in Georgia buy the same generator not on the high prices fir normal price.please explain that.Jacksonville to exit one is less then 30 minutes.I drive that going to the home Depot to get things.
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We can't change people but we can change ourselves. People will be greedy and they will take advantage of situations but we don't have to be victims. You said it yourself. If you don't want to pay the high price for a generator in Jax, you just go to Georgia and get it at a better price. Today with internet it's even easier. You can shop worldwide and order it delivered directly to your home so you don't even have to drive.
 
WIP said:
We can't change people but we can change ourselves. People will be greedy and they will take advantage of situations but we don't have to be victims. You said it yourself. If you don't want to pay the high price for a generator in Jax, you just go to Georgia and get it at a better price. Today with internet it's even easier. You can shop worldwide and order it delivered directly to your home so you don't even have to drive.
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Doesn't mean that what they do isn't dishonest.
 
WIP said:
True that. Conversely, it doesn't mean it is dishonest either.
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It is when you have only one and how many generators makers are there? If this was car batteries it's only three,exide,SC johnson,and one other. All others are made one of these.I bet generators are made by a few corporations and lines are sold to certain stores to their specs. This is done with tires. Sam's and Walmart and sears have special lines of good year and Michelin.
 
jasonc said:
It is when you have only one and how many generators makers are there? If this was car batteries it's only three,exide,SC johnson,and one other. All others are made one of these.I bet generators are made by a few corporations and lines are sold to certain stores to their specs. This is done with tires. Sam's and Walmart and sears have special lines of good year and Michelin.
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I think that's done with everything. There's only 3 or 4 different manufacturers of water heaters, yet prolly 20 or 30 different brands.

I've installed furnaces that came with a cloth bag which had 5 or 6 different name tags in it, so's I could give the customer their preferred brand. Lol
 
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